X-Men - Part 6

[Mike Murdock]

Mike hit the nail on the head. Couldn't have said it better! Actually James Asmus is writing All New Inhumans - Soule gave him a general guideline of events on how he wants All-New to go, but otherwise has given Asmus free reign with the filler.

Oh, didn't realize that. All-New actually feels a lot like Soule's books. Swain, for example, feels like a Soule character. Uncanny, on the other hand (which I enjoy more) almost has a Hickman vibe in many ways. To me, that's a good thing because I really enjoyed New Avengers. But it does explain how Soule is able to do so many things at once.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I liked Uncanny X-men 600. Structurally it was pretty messy and Bendis is kind of awful with resolutions to his plots, though. Iceman coming out was handled decently and wasn't worth the controversy at all. At the end of the day we have an entrenched gay A-list X-man that won't go away like Northstar does (also Northstar just sucks). I'll always remember Bendis' run fondly for elevating Magik to her current status, bringing Jean back with a hell of a lot of agency, and giving Cyclops some introspective stories.

I like the new stuff as much as I can I guess. I don't like that the X-men are once again fighting for survival, especially because this time it doesn't have the gravity like it did during the post-M-Day stuff (and Messiah Complex and Second Coming were great events that came out as I started reading comics regularly). That being said, I love the core team on Extraordinary and their new looks are pretty cool. The team dynamic is great.

All-New X-men is way better than I thought it would be. I love the idea of Cyclops fighting the ghosts of Cyclops. And I'm glad Evan and Idie are regulars on a book. It's really weird going from 600 where Cyclops united mutants on a march in Washington to him being the most hated man ever apparently.

I have no interest in reading Inhumans under Marvel's current attempt to push them at the cost of the X-men.

I resent the Inhumans as much as the next X-fan right now but some of those books are really good, especially Karnak's solo book.

Also, how and in which book did Cyclops die? I assumed his death in Secret Wars wouldn't stick but we still don't know how that story ends.

 

[JewishHobbit]

It apparently happened in the 8 month gap between Secret Wars and now. I assume it's going to be addressed soon.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Good, cuz it gets referenced a lot and I hate mysteries

 

[squeekness]

Huh, I assumed Cyclops died in Secret Wars which I skipped. Seems to me that his death is fake because isn't he in an Inhumans book right now?

 

[Sithborg]

It is possible that Inhumans takes place before the X-books, and features his attack on the Inhumans. As far as I know, he's dead and then brought back by Sinister in Extraordinary.

That said, I have been enjoying the X-books for the most part. Extraordinary is sort of waning a bit, but I love All New. But then, I've always enjoyed the original 5 being back, and now they add some more of the new mutants to the line up. Solid book.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Huh, I assumed Cyclops died in Secret Wars which I skipped. Seems to me that his death is fake because isn't he in an Inhumans book right now?

Actually Cyclops DID die in Secret Wars, but none of that is sticking. So it's something else more related to the Inhumans. And no, he isn't in an Inhuman book. Beast is in Uncanny Inhumans.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I imagine this'd all be cleared up if Secret Wars ended on time. I can't say I'll miss Cyclops and I hope his younger self takes his life in the opposite direction.

 

[Mad Ones]

I miss old Cyclops. Still my favourite Marvel character. Tyc is regression.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Bendis has made Cyclops fall down quite a few spots on my fav mutants list. Conversely, I'm a big fan of Beast now(hypocrisy and Cyclops obsession aside). I'm hoping Soule does interesting stuff with him on Inhumans.

 

[Havok83]

My favorite Cyclops of the last decade will always be Gillen's

what a fantastic run that book was

btw, where is Emma Frost?

 

[Specter313]

Well from what I've heard, some of what happened with Cyclops was answered in the last issue of Extraordinary X-Men. My shop sold out so I haven't read it, but saw a spoiler article on CBR.

 

[Sithborg]

Gillen's run was great (and who I would argue is why Bendis decided to use Majik). He did some great work with Sinister.

 

[BillPardy]

Oh, didn't realize that. All-New actually feels a lot like Soule's books. Swain, for example, feels like a Soule character. Uncanny, on the other hand (which I enjoy more) almost has a Hickman vibe in many ways. To me, that's a good thing because I really enjoyed New Avengers. But it does explain how Soule is able to do so many things at once.

You're totally selling me on Uncanny Inhumans.

 

[Sithborg]

Holy crap, Bunn may have remembered that the original Dark Riders were Inhumans.

 

[Mad Ones]

I found there to be a nice continuity from Morrison, Whedon, Fraction, Gillen, and Bendis in terms of Cyclops character. I thought Bendis added to their work a lot. I loved seeing Cyclops make an X with his arms. He had some pretty decent speeches during Bendis' run.

I miss Gillen's Sinister.

 

[Havok83]

Bendis' Cyclops went nowhere though. I felt his entire run was a waste for the character in hindsight now that its done. Cyclops did a whole lot of talking but I dont think he really accomplished anything. So much hype behind this Mutant Revolution which didnt live up to any of that

anyways I went through and read Extraordinary up to #4. My god the art is awful and Ramos hasnt improved at all. They need to get someone new on this. I love the new costume for Illyana but hate that he doesnt draw her with bangs. Thats her one distinguishing feature. Hate Bobby's costume. Why do they keep insisting on giving him shorts instead of a full length costume? Also not liking that the costume doesnt freeze when he ices up.

Dont care for the story but love the team. Ive accepted that we will likely never see adult 616 Jean so Im glad teen Jean has been elevated to the main X-men squad. She's been the best part of it. Its always good to see Sinister

I'll always remember Bendis' run fondly for elevating Magik to her current status, bringing Jean back with a hell of a lot of agency, and giving Cyclops some introspective stories.

that was Gillen. Bendis' UXM picked up the remnants from Gillen's run, which pretty much amounted to the dark X-Men, Cyclops, Emma, Magneto and Magik. Gillen is the one that elevated her by being the first to put her own the main team

 

[Mad Ones]

That's true, but I like what Bendis did with her more. I liked making her the master of Limbo and reconnecting with Kitty.

 

[Havok83]

She was already Queen of Limbo though. It came into play after she was resurrected and in New Mutants. I guess he did fix her relationship with Kitty after Fraction ruined it. I liked that as well as her serving as mentor to the younger mutants

 

[Mad Ones]

Gillen also added to that ruin. Illyana absorbed all of Limbo's mystic energies, which is was pretty cool. I liked her training with Dr. Strange.

 

[Havok83]

I preferred when they had her beating Dr. Strange....lol. It seemed like a step back to have her more powerful than him in AvX and then becoming a trainee. I supposed the after effects of the Phoenix Force was used to explain why she needed that but it still seemed odd

 

[Sithborg]

Ramos' art doesn't bother me too much. Still annoyed that Land is back on Uncanny. He is at least trying to make Psylocke look different than M, but god damnit, M is getting the "poses".

Uncanny is off to a good start, imo. Kind of curious what is up with Archangel. But thank god, they did not undo Remender's work, even if they did undo the post-Dark Angel Saga "development".

 

[Havok83]

I surprisingly liked the team of UXM better than I thought I would but to me they arent X-men. I wish the title had been something diffrent. They look like X-Force

 

[Sithborg]

Yeah, they are X-force in all but name. But, that's fine.

I also like Psylocke's new outfit.

 

[BoredGuy]

So, is Sabertooth still inverted, but also back to being a scary a**hole?
cuz the opposite of old Sabertooth would be like, someone super nice and empathetic, I would think

but I guess they thought that was boring, so they decided on plain old Sabes minus the homicidal urges...?