X-Men - Part 6

[JewishHobbit]

Can't stand Emma.

 

[Sithborg]

Yeah, I never liked Scott and Emma.

 

[Mad Ones]

The Morrison and Whedon stuff was phenomenal writing. They wrote her the best, but no one's been able to carry that on. I like morally ambiguous Scott.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Nope on Morrison. She was horrid and acted in no way like a woman Scott (or anyone else) would be interested in. Repulsive from the get go.

 

[Mad Ones]

"The whole world is watching us now. We must be nothing short of fabulous"

Loved it when she used her telepathy to make that crowd of bigots orgasm.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Okay yeah, that part made me laugh.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Can I just say that I love how Bunn is adding Xorn to the Uncanny cast? It's different and unexpected.

 

[squeekness]

Hope he didn't add him just to kill him off.

 

[BoredGuy]

Is it actually Xorn this time? IS there an actual Xorn?? I could never follow that s*** after Marvel scrambled to undo Morrison's story

 

[JewishHobbit]

Yeah, there are two brothers named Xorn. The crazy one died in Morrison's run. The second one joined the X-Men after Morrison's run for a brief time. This heroic Xorn is the one showing up in Uncanny X-Men.

 

[CaptainWagner]

I REALLY wish I could get into Uncanny, on paper I should love it: Magneto, Arcangel, Mystique, Fantomex, now Xorn.... But it just fails to impress me on every level.

 

[JewishHobbit]

The art is making it difficult for me. Just don't care for Land.

 

[BoredGuy]

haha I was gonna say, it's Land isn't it? It's always Land.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Yeah, it's hard being an X-Fan. Two of my least favorite artists are Land and Bachelo.

 

[BoredGuy]

eh I like Bachalo
his style is very specific, but I enjoy how kinetic it is
but yeah, I'd say between Land, Ramos, and Bagley, I'm not feeling the X-art right now

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I'm one of the few that for some odd reason likes Land. He may be a tracer.. but the compositions are usually really nice, and at least most of the characters look like how i envision them.

He's not my favorite by any means, but i don't think he's nearly as annoying as Ramos or Frank Quitely (or for most of the artists on Morrisons run) but the pudgey-ness of Quitely's characters (and sour faces they made) still makes my stomach churn

 

[BoredGuy]

Quitely's sequential storytelling is among the best in the industry imo
but yeah, his figures are hideous and unappealing

 

[spideyboy_1111]

i mean, why would anyone draw Emma friggin Frost as a pudgy muffin top asian woman?

 

[JewishHobbit]

To match her ugly interior?

 

[CaptainWagner]

Quitely's style wasn't my cup of tea either, but Land's work (and Uncanny is my introduction to him) just annoys me. It seems like every other panel is drawn like a cover, unnatural poses and all..

 

[Mad Ones]

I didn't like Quitely at first, but his style has definitely grown on me. Some of his work in New X-men is my favourite in the history of X-comics now. I feel like people only think about that cover with Emma when they think about his art, when his interiors were amazing. Kordey was the artist that dragged Morrison's run down.

Oddly, the last issue of Uncanny was the best Land's been since Endsong (that I've seen).

 

[MilkmanDan]

My problem was that there was no love triangle. That was a minor plot that was a thing of history until Morrison made it a thing again before killing her. I mean, I can only think of one issue that really dealt with it between X-Tinction Agenda and Morrison's New X-Men. It was the cartoon and movies that made it a thing.

If Marvel could just get past that and move on from the Phoenix crap, she could maybe grow as a character.

True. The same is true when it comes to the Cyclops/Wolverine rivalry. If you look at the comics written between Proteus Saga and Schism, they are on friendly terms most of the time and clearly care about each other even when they don't get along. Yet the casual fan is likely to think of them them as bitter rivals always on each other's throats over Jean.

 

[BoredGuy]

more evidence of the cooling hostilities between Marvel and Fox?:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/marvels-deadpool-vs-gambit-pits-merc-against-theif

Should be interesting, I don't recall them having much of a relationship, but I could see them having some fun together

 

[def28]

Only thing I remember with Gambit and Deadpool was from Gambits first solo. If I remember right, Gambit payed Deadpool off so he wouldn't have to fight him haha. It was an assassination storyline with Bullseye written by Niceiza.

 

[mightiest_mortal]

Yeah, there are two brothers named Xorn. The crazy one died in Morrison's run. The second one joined the X-Men after Morrison's run for a brief time. This heroic Xorn is the one showing up in Uncanny X-Men.

It's also been hinted at in the comics that Magneto may have truly died in New York but Wanda rewrote reality so that Xorn wasn't Mags. Either way, it shows the strength of Morrisons understanding of the X-World that the "Xorn cycle" is repeating yet again. Mags is back in his good(ish) guy Xorn persona. Give it another year or two and something will happen and he'll back to being the X-Men's nemesis... again.

After a lot of deliberation, I'm finally going to drop all X-Men titles. I've been collecting with only the occasional absence for 25-30 years (and caught up on every issue before that) so this is pretty huge for me.

I've had real issues with the series ever since Faction and Bendis first came aboard. I feel the X-Men have morally become the same as the Acolytes, but Marvel and the writers don't have enough understanding of Charles' dream to realise why it should still be important. The X-Men aren't any more "at war" or "on the edge of extinction" than they were back when Magneto used to ramble about these things.

The DOFP movie (and especially Charles' "Just because someone stumbles" speech) made me nostalgic for an X-Men comic that's long gone. A comic that had real heart, and optimism. I believe too much has changed, too drastically to the core of the comics and the characters to the point I genuinely don't believe the comic is recoverable any more. Not to what it once was.

If there were great storys being told then maybe I could enjoy the new direction, but the arts pretty average and the writing more-so. The O5 joining were a fun idea for a short while, but why are they still here? The comics are a complete mess IMO.

Maybe one day there'll be an entire universe new-52 style reboot, but until then, I think we've lost the X-Men.