X4: Realist Takes A Look at the option

[Odin's Lapdog]

sounds terminator 2 esque but i could buy it...

 

[Mic]

sounds terminator 2 esque but i could buy it...

Ill keep dreaming anyway.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

the good thing about a future line is that it can cram in a large quantity of x-men history without having to show it because cable can be like the fanboy who comes back to see his original heros.

He can say things like 'Has gambit joined yet?' and all this other things...

the whole mutant registration and sentinels history can be covered, relationships with the shi'ar (could point out his weapon is a shi-ar class blaster) and briefly talk about run ins with other characters...

not to mention the classic parts of still knowing wolverine in the future, oooo imagine if wolverine raised cable to think he was his own after finding him after the techno virus only to find out it's jeans and cyclop's causing them to fight etc there's really quite a lot to be done there...

by putting a fanboy esque character in the film can do sooooo much scriptwise that would satify pretty much any fan

 

[Mic]

the good thing about a future line is that it can cram in a large quantity of x-men history without having to show it because cable can be like the fanboy who comes back to see his original heros.

He can say things like 'Has gambit joined yet?' and all this other things...

the whole mutant registration and sentinels history can be covered, relationships with the shi'ar (could point out his weapon is a shi-ar class blaster) and briefly talk about run ins with other characters...

not to mention the classic parts of still knowing wolverine in the future, oooo imagine if wolverine raised cable to think he was his own after finding him after the techno virus only to find out it's jeans and cyclop's causing them to fight etc there's really quite a lot to be done there...

by putting a fanboy esque character in the film can do sooooo much scriptwise that would satify pretty much any fan

I dont care if you dont like Cable, but any fan seeing that would blow their load.
It would seriosuly be an fanboy overload. And its not like the general audience wont get it.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

actually seeing cable doing all that may come higher than third on my all time fanboy geekasms

currently they are

seeing wolverine's first cage fight
wallcrawling scene at the end of spider
Hulk in desert

 

[Mic]

actually seeing cable doing all that may come higher than third on my all time fanboy geekasms

currently they are

seeing wolverine's first cage fight
wallcrawling scene at the end of spider
Hulk in desert

Put those upside down and id agree.
And colossus metalling up in X2.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

nah that didn't do it for me, too short for a proper geekasm...

 

[Mic]

nah that didn't do it for me, too short for a proper geekasm...

At least he looked good...unlike in X3

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

yeah, i don't know why they decided for a more mirrored finished, totally unecessary...

 

[Jennifer Walters]

You guys are gonna be disappointed in X4 then, the future storylines/Cable/Apocalypse/Bishop, will never show up in any feasible sequel to this current franchise. Not without a major major rehauling without ANY of the ''I'm from the future" stuff. These films so far...are just not those types of films.

 

[Mic]

You guys are gonna be disappointed in X4 then, the future storylines/Cable/Apocalypse/Bishop, will never show up in any feasible sequel to this current franchise. Not without a major major rehauling without ANY of the ''I'm from the future" stuff. These films so far...are just not those types of films.

Bull****. I hate all this 'its a realistic film crap'

If they can have a guy levitating the god damn golden gate bridge and have a woman DISINTIGRATING people, they can have a dude come back through time.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

i don't see why not, it's not that far away a memory, look at the technology needed to build the danger room.

considering if forge built the one and only time machine and through bishop and cable back, it could do fantastic things to the franchise without damaging what could either be done afterward and also help bring in past chracters that have already been introduced so except for apocalypse himself, bishop and cable, everyone else needed has already been brought into the film.


there will be no more henchmen to tackle, all confrontations will be purely with apocalypse with the team losing all but the final one, where it's not even a proper victory but more of a 'away from arena' moral win.

and the very best thing it would do is paint a picture that everything is ok for jean and scott.

the whole 'from the future point' doesn't need to be made a fiasco. there are plenty of films about time travel that don't worry about it so much. especially if the relevant parties it can mostly affect(ie scott and jean) aren't in the films at all...

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Much much different. That's their powers.

But I don't feel like getting into this conversation again. X4 will not contain any of the afore mentioned characters in this thread except possibly Sinister.

 

[Spoarz™]

Bloody hell, there is so much potential for an X4, and for Fox to say that The Last Stand is the final chapter is just so annoying.

 

[windriderx]

i have great ideas and characters to return and introduce. they could so make this film and have it rock. x3 set the stage i hope fox puts on the play.

 

[Mic]

Much much different. That's their powers.

Fine, have Forge build it. It is his power after all to build anything he can imagine.
Done and done, thank you, move on now. Argument over.

But I don't feel like getting into this conversation again. X4 will not contain any of the afore mentioned characters in this thread except possibly Sinister.

Wow since when can you see the future?

 

[Jennifer Walters]

It's a mutant ability of mine.

No, I kidd. I kidd.

I just have this overwhelming feeling that none of those characters shall ever appear in an X Film, possibly in cameos, but as major characters, no.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

Much much different. That's their powers.

yeah, it was always going to be forge's time machine built for cable and bishop

apocalypse could have his own from a more distant future.

it's not a problem

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

It's a mutant ability of mine.

No, I kidd. I kidd.

I just have this overwhelming feeling that none of those characters shall ever appear in an X Film, possibly in cameos, but as major characters, no.

more than likely, you're possibly right, they most likely aren't going to appear.

i'm just trying to say it is possible for them to go down this route if they wanted and it wouldnt affect anything done up to date with their work, infact it might make x3 come out in a good light since we can see the effect of the 'non effective cure', more of an in depth look to angel and give everyone the hope they need that cyclops and jean are still alive...

 

[Wolverine85]

I also think that Wolverine and Storm are a must in X4. Probably my most favorite part of X3 was with Storm having a huge role. Having a charecter like Gambit coming in is alright, but I'd prefere to have Rogue and Colossus get bigger roles.

 

[Miss Cross]

I doubt there will be an X4 as such, instead there will be the Wolvie and Mags prequels and the "Young X-men" spin off featuring Iceman, Angel, Colussus and Kitty on the goodies side and Pyro and maybe Juggs on the baddies side. They could also bring in Sinister or Apocolypse. Gambit of course being the other obvious addition. The "Young X-men" would be an effective and cheaper alternative to having to pay for Hugh and Halle etc..They could appear as effective cameos, I agree.

 

[ReaperFett]

Cyclopse: dead (would have been more satisfying to see him die. His character/actor was terrible. He couldnt even die in a fun satisfying way.) I know he is some favs. but he was doomed sense X1

So right about the doomed line. In X2 they added more characters, and he got less screen time. Considering they would add more characters in X3, and we know Cyclops isn't one of the main players at this point, he was always going to be the obvious one to get axed.

 

[windriderx]

has everyone forgot the hellfire club? i'd have emma frost, sebastion shaw, a repowered magneto, and sage as the hellfire club. the x-men would be beast, kitty, iceman, colossus, angel, dazzler, jean's SISTER rachel grey, and gambit. storm will be in it as the new headmistress of the school and will be part of the final battle but will be the new xavier role in the movie. only in combat when she needs to be.

 

[Mic]

has everyone forgot the hellfire club? i'd have emma frost, sebastion shaw, a repowered magneto, and sage as the hellfire club. the x-men would be beast, kitty, iceman, colossus, angel, dazzler, jean's SISTER rachel grey, and gambit. storm will be in it as the new headmistress of the school and will be part of the final battle but will be the new xavier role in the movie. only in combat when she needs to be.

But they are intertwined with the Phoenix saga arnt they?
Kinda useless if theres no Phoenix.

 

[samurai black]

In order to have an X4, you HAVE to bring back the main characters. Having an X-MEN move without, wolverine, prof x, jean grey, or scott summers is like having a movie titled BATMAN, but with a story about azrael, or a movie called SPIDERMAN, but about a guy named ben reilly. This has to be the last movie in the saga, there were too many resolutions to the main characters. If they did an X4, it would be just for the money. Which i something i wouldn't put past movie execs, so IF they were to put out an X4 here's a possible beginning plotline.
The world has become a peaceful place, where mutants and humans coexist. Mutants are everywhere in society, there's even a section of new york called whatelse 'mutanttown'. At the x-mansion, all is well logan (he's always called that now bc he's now at peace with his feral side) and storm are the schoolheadmasters and are also lovers. There's a scene where they visit the prof x who looks like he's in a coma but can communicate telepathically. They briefly mention that they have searched for scott body but it was never found.The school has employed new teachers (northstar, forge, emma, etc.) and have "new mutants like illayana rasputin, wolfsbane (who looks up to logan.) cannonball, the stepford cuckoos etc. Hank McCoy is a celebrated politician and has just become Vice Pres alongside a human Pres. He and logan have become great friends, as he was instrumental in taming his animal instincts. There is discussion that this is just a stepping stone and that hank's goal is to run for pres office, making history. Tragedy occurs as the human pres is attacked while delivering a public speech. replay of the incident finds that it was someone who looked like scott summers who was the assasin, this sends the gov after the x-men (imagine a scene where they try to bring in wolive for questioning) and the country is once again divided. We find out that there is new brotherhood led by a scientist named sinister and he has recruited some of the old (pyro,juggs, SABRETOOTH!) a right hand man named remy and he has help from a human mystquie who is promised a cure for her humanity. we then find out the scott look alike is actualy his brother alex(havok) as mutants are prosecuted, lines are drawn and the war begins again.
With sinister, you can do so much with the mad scientist angle. I don't know just rambling.