No Way Home "You've Stuck Your Webs In My Business For The Last Time!" Alfred Molina Returns As Doctor Octopus

[Arachnerd]

^I'll take that one further: what if.... we get a, Superior Spider-man, type scenario?
and Ock (or in that case Ock's A.I.) some how take over Peters mind
(like what if the whole fight scene with Spidey an Strange, is because he's actually Ock)

I don't think we'll see any element of Superior Spider-Man in this.

 

[Toomes' Phone]

I don't think we'll see any element of Superior Spider-Man in this.

And I hope we don't.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

I wouldn't mind like an easter egg reference to Superior Spider-Man but I'm not sure if I want to see it in a movie

 

[The Joker]

Those 8 seconds of magnificence in 4K quality.

 

[Arachnerd]

Still haven't managed to find a 4K version of the entire trailer.

 

[Toomes' Phone]

One of the best aspects of Ock's tentacles in SM2 was the sound design, the way they'd scrape and whirr and even scream. I hope that's retained in NWH.

 

[The Infernal]

Love the scene when Ock's tentacles wake up in the operating theatre.

 

[The Joker]

Love the scene when Ock's tentacles wake up in the operating theatre.

 

[Toomes' Phone]

Love the scene when Ock's tentacles wake up in the operating theatre.

The operating room massacre scene still gives me the chills. Particularly that poor female surgeon; you can hear her ankle audibly crack when the tentacle snatches her by it, and then there's her screaming and nails clawing the floor as she's dragged away...

 

[Drizzle]

As much as I love that scene, when I rewatched the movie the other week the thought dawned on me that it probably would have been easier on everyone if they had just sawn the arms off at the lab as opposed to transporting him all the way to the hospital with them on but maybe they might have been cautious knowing about the inhibitor chip. But where's the fun in that?

 

[Toomes' Phone]

As much as I love that scene, when I rewatched the movie the other week the thought dawned on me that it probably would have been easier on everyone if they had just sawn the arms off at the lab as opposed to transporting him all the way to the hospital with them on but maybe they might have been cautious knowing about the inhibitor chip. But where's the fun in that?

It might not have even helped there. The arms were clearly gonna defend themselves from being destroyed no matter where it happened.

 

[The Joker]

That scene was Sam Raimi returning to his horror roots. You can tell he had a blast doing that. He really got to push the boundaries there. People being picked up by their heads, finger nails scraping on the floor etc.

 

[Gothamsknight]

That scene was Sam Raimi returning to his horror roots. You can tell he had a blast doing that. He really got to push the boundaries there. People being picked up by their heads, finger nails scraping on the floor etc.

One of my favorite scenes ever. Just sheer brutality and classic Raimi.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

as a kid that scene always creeped me the fxck out. which probably means it was effective in what it was supposed to do.

 

[The Infernal]

The operating room massacre scene still gives me the chills. Particularly that poor female surgeon; you can hear her ankle audibly crack when the tentacle snatches her by it, and then there's her screaming and nails clawing the floor as she's dragged away...

My mind always goes to nails scraping and the chainsaw.

 

[Toomes' Phone]

I'm glad he's wearing the John Lennon glasses he had on during the bank fight in SM2.

 

[Mr. Peanut]

Love the scene when Ock's tentacles wake up in the operating theatre.

When I was younger, I remember scenes like that really set apart the extra amount of "oomph" a live action supervillain can have in comparison to the animated version. Like when Green Goblin fried random civilians into skeletons, or his brutal beat down of Peter at the end of the first movie.


Thinking about it now, it's become pretty rare for Marvel supervillains to push the envelope like that in modern movies. Thanos was pretty brutal...and Hela was pretty stabby....other than that I can't remember anyone doing much of anything lately in MCU movies that they couldn't do in an animated TV show. Hell one of the darkest villain moments in the MCU (the Mandarin shooting a guy on live TV) ended up being staged by a gag character.


(Edit: Oh how did I completely forget the Winter Soldier and Tony's parents? Love you, Russo bros. You should be in charge of more Marvel movies)

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Russos, overplayed comedy with Thor in Endgame aside, have probably the best balance of tone, humor action and dramatics of all the MCU directors so far.

Very much hoping this Spidey film goes more in that direction than what was delivered in FFH. Hell a return to HC would be a step up.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

I'm glad he's wearing the John Lennon glasses he had on during the bank fight in SM2.

his look without not be complete without em

 

[Toomes' Phone]

I have a theory/question: Were the arms already causing Otto to act irrationally before the inhibitor chip was destroyed? Because smacking Spidey with a tentacle for trying to stop the machine still seems out of character for pre-transformation Otto. I mean yeah, Otto is arrogant and hubristic, but idk, it just seems odd.

 

[Arachnerd]

Otto's obsession with the tritium was always present even before the arms started influencing his behavior, so it didn't feel that way at all to me. It was his life's work and he wasn't going to risk failure.

"The power of the sun in the palm of my hand."

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

I have a theory/question: Were the arms already causing Otto to act irrationally before the inhibitor chip was destroyed? Because smacking Spidey with a tentacle for trying to stop the machine still seems out of character for pre-transformation Otto. I mean yeah, Otto is arrogant and hubristic, but idk, it just seems odd.

the arms are what made him become a mad scientist. what he was trying to do was noble but at the risk of destroying New York

 

[The Joker]

I have a theory/question: Were the arms already causing Otto to act irrationally before the inhibitor chip was destroyed? Because smacking Spidey with a tentacle for trying to stop the machine still seems out of character for pre-transformation Otto. I mean yeah, Otto is arrogant and hubristic, but idk, it just seems odd.

That was the seeds of the Doc Ock personality right there. Otto willing to go to violent lengths to protect his life's work. The arms just brought that out x10.

 

[The Caped Knight]

Love the scene when Ock's tentacles wake up in the operating theatre.

 

[Da-Scribe]

That was the seeds of the Doc Ock personality right there. Otto willing to go to violent lengths to protect his life's work. The arms just brought that out x10.

Yeah if there's one common thread across all of the Raimi villains, it's that the seeds of villainy were already present prior to the full-on transition.

We saw Norman's anger issues and the way he treated Harry.
We saw Otto's willingness to hurt Spider-Man to protect his work.
We saw Harry suffering from the same violent delusions, pre-Goblin serum, that his father experienced. The implication that the delusions were hereditary was always a cool reveal that I wish Raimi had expanded on.
We saw Eddie just being Eddie but in particular praying for Peter's death at the church.

I don't include Sandman here because he really wasn't out to hurt anyone and did what I think a lot of people would do to save their children. Which is anything they can. But for the rest, all of them had stuff going on way before they got powers.