Zack Snyder Directing Justice League (The Snyder Cut Edition) - Part 2

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  1. Spider-jedi Registered

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    i mentioned this in the r/SnyderCut subbreddit and my comment was downvoted so hard it was funny. maybe its my fault for been there in the first place. they consider it their safe space
     
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  2. Chip Chipperson the big guy

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    Yeah I’d say you asked for trouble there

    not a good idea to enter into a hive mind and go against the grain
     
  3. Erzengel |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

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    The amount of planets to have to align even more so with some of the crazier demands beyond Discovery purchasing Time Warner, then firing everyone so Ray Fisher can come back, rehiring Snyder, forcing Ben Affleck back, scheduling 3 movies in the future to the tune of approximately 3/4 of a billion dollars.
     
  4. Spider-jedi Registered

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    thats the thing so much has to just fall in place. its not impossible but its improbable that all of that happens. ZS is having fun over at Netflix it just doesn't make sense to me that he will come back. plus hes doing his own original stuff. he even said recently that he prefers his own original stuff to be called synderverse than the DC movies he made cus he doesn't own that world.
     
  5. Spider-jedi Registered

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    yeah my comment had to be removed cus it got so many downvotes. it was the first time that had ever happened to me. i should have just kept it to myself
     
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    He's right and I like that he's frank. I also remember him saying that BvS deserved all the bad reviews it got.
     
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  8. The Lazarus Pit The Boy Wonder

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    I made a Wizard Magazine-inspired casting call for Justice League. This is how I would have cast the DCEU Justice League instead:

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  9. chintai80 oh hi.

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    u pretty much chose better actors than the ones we actually got. lol

    and i say this as someone who liked the actors we still got.
     
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  10. Chip Chipperson the big guy

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    Brolin is the perfect age for a Dark Knight Returns adaptation, and I say this as someone who has become pretty disillusioned by all the Frank Miller TDKR stuff the last few years for….. reasons lol.
     
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  11. Lily Adler Politically Delicious (P) (she/her/hers)

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    Yas to Brolin, Elba, Hunam, and Reddick.

    Like the idea of Bardem. Not sure of John, Charlize, and Baby Goose whom I love but don't find it ever happening. :(
     
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  12. Spider-Aziz Dummy Dragon Holo

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    So I've watched Zack's DC trilogy again, and I've gotta wonder about two things when it comes to the Flash:
    1. How did he get his powers without working for CSI labs?
    2. Then he got the job without having an official degree? I get that a rich man helped, but still..

    And then the amount of scenes you can skip is grand, you can skip more than just the portion of the epilogue that comes after Superman's shirt rip. You don't need the museum attack scene, you can skip majority -or the entirety- of Amy Adams scenes before Superman's resurrection, you can obviously skip the ladies singing for Aquaman.....

    There is a good amount of good in this, it had the potential to be better, but the way things go it's probably a 6/10 at best.
     
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    We proofed the infidels wrong one time, we‘ll do it a second time too :D
     
  14. Spider-Aziz Dummy Dragon Holo

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    That movie is not the phenomenon you wish it to be, the phenomena about it is seeing it realized.
    A lot of people were quick to stop watching the movie despite the numerous clicks it reached, and they might not be that big compared to 'Zilla vs King Kong going by number of people who watched the entirety of that monster movie.
     
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  15. AVEITWITHJAMON Badass Cloud

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    Wait is he talking about Whedon's version here?
     
  16. Mani-Man I just found out about this (he/him)

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    That is what many forget, but does it really matter in the end?
    It got the numbers either way, doesnt matter if people couldnt stomach the whole 4 hours.
    Seeing as it wasnt even in the top 20 in terms Home media sales etc...yeah people think way too much about the movie itself.

    Its why i cant take the reviews etc too serious, because i firmly believe a lot of the "hype" is because of the idea, that fans could come together to fight against the big evil company and win.

    Hard to say isnt it.XD
    Lets just assume its about Whedon.
     
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  17. AVEITWITHJAMON Badass Cloud

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    Well personally I loved Zack's version and thought Whedon's was terrible, so I am going to assume that.
     
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    I mean the Snyder Cut cost 70 million to make, it was an HBO MAX exclusive and was still beaten by Mortal Kombat, Godzilla vs Kong, The Suicide Squad, The Matrix Resurrections, Space Jam: A New Legacy and Dune, all films that also had a cinematic release as well. For all this talk about a global phenomenon it's painfully obvious that only a relatively small number of fans care for this universe, which isn't enough to justify any sort of continuation that would cost the studio 200-300 millions to make. Also you can't restore a universe where half the cast either wants out or the studio wants them out.
     
  19. Mandon Knight We did it......

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    I think everyone knows which camp I'm nailed to. :funny:
     
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  20. Dr. From parts unknown

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    For me, one of the strengths of ZSJL is, in fact, its longform structure. I legitimately enjoyed the extra time and attention paid to character development; to small “character moments”; to minor story details and embellishments (that weren’t, strictly speaking, absolutely essential to the plot); to longer takes of the purely visual elements; etc.

    It’s true, however, that at a basic level, the movie’s “superheroes vs. supervillains plot” is pretty standard, boilerplate stuff. So if runtime and “trimming the fat” are overriding concerns, you certainly could streamline the story down to its bare essentials. And presumably, this is what the lean, 2-hour Whedon cut does (though I can’t speak from personal knowledge — since I’ve never seen the Whedon cut.) IOW, take your pick: long and leisurely or tight and efficient.

    I suppose it’s interesting to contemplate what Snyder’s alternative theatrical cuts (2.5hrs, 2.75hrs, 3hrs, etc.) might have looked like. Is there, indeed, a “sweet spot” that takes the best of the longform but isn’t quite so… well, long? Maybe. But since steaming (not theatrical) was the eventual venue, I’m happy with 4 hours. (In different circumstances, it’s likely that the extra footage would have ended up as “bonus material” on a DVD release. And then someone would have “fan edited” everything into a 4-hour opus anyway. So Snyder saved them the trouble. :word:)
     
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    After watching the movie a few times, I'm not sure what scenes I would have removed. I feel like each scene was pretty essential to the story momentum and character development. Some scenes maybe could be trimmed (like the Aquaman singing choir in the beginning) but I also very much like the deliberate pace this takes. And the small character scenes like Alfred and Diana bonding over tea or catching up with Lois periodically to feel her grief for the loss of Clark I think add to the weight of the film so that you care whats going on. This movie unfortunately did not have the luxury like the first Avengers film to have four set up movies before it to establish all its characters so it had to do a lot of heavy lifting especially with Arthur, Barry and Victor.

    But you know, I kind of equate this to those extended LOTR movies. LOTR fans will tell you those extended cuts are the DEFINITIVE ways to watch those movies but if you're not a fan those movies could be cumbersome to get through because they're just so long. So, point being, if you're not someone invested in this world Snyder set up I could easily see this movie being a chore to get through because...well you didnt really care that much to begin with. But someone like me whose been invested in this journey and this rendition of the DC universe since MOS, I ate up every minute we spent with these characters.
     
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  23. The Lazarus Pit The Boy Wonder

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    If they’re not going to do another movie, just do a stand-alone miniseries on HBO Max.

    JJ Abrams’

    JLA

    Superman - David Corenswet

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    Batman - Jon Hamm

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    Wonder Woman - Alicia Vikander

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    The Flash - Jack Quaid

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    Green Lantern - Omari Hardick

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    Aquaman - Travis Fimmel

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    Martian Manhunter - Lance Reddick

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    Darkseid - Javier Bardem

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  24. The Lazarus Pit The Boy Wonder

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    Lex Luthor - Bryan Cranston

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    Joker - Willem Dafoe

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    Cheetah - Sofia Boutella

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    Gorilla Grodd - Toby Kebbell

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    Sinestro - Luke Evans

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    Black Manta - Ricky Whittle

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    Ma’ale’fa’ak - Peter Mensah

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  25. MbJ Registered

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    They're 100% gonna attempt another Justice League movie at some point, it'll just be with a different creative team and line-up.

    That Aquaman 2
    allegedly has an appearance from Keaton
    pretty much ensures they're taking the connected universe thing more seriously than they have been the last few years.
     

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