🇮🇱🇵🇸 The Israel-Palestine Politics Thread II

[herakles]

Our President is either clueless, or made this deal for his own nefarious reasons. Iran by the way funds terrorism against other nations.

Haven't you realized by now Obama is child when it comes to foreign policy.

 

[Donner]

Haven't you realized by now Obama is child when it comes to foreign policy.

Right, because the alternative of terrifying US citizens with ridiculous statements about terrorists getting nuclear weapons is really mature

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

Jewish and Arab Israeli Mothers Segregated in Hospitals

You can't make this stuff up.

An investigative report finds that numerous Israeli hospitals are openly implementing segregation. But journalists have exposed the phenomenon for at least a decade and nobody seems willing to do anything about it.

Source: http://972mag.com/israeli-maternity-wards-segregate-jewish-arab-mothers/118420/

 

[herakles]

Right, because the alternative of terrifying US citizens with ridiculous statements about terrorists getting nuclear weapons is really mature

Oh allowing Libya, Egypt, Jordan and Syria to fall into chaos. Lucky for Jordan and Egypt both didn't fall into civil war.

 

[Donner]

It's not up to the US to interfere in the affairs of other nations.

 

[herakles]

It's not up to the US to interfere in the affairs of other nations.

And Obama did so in Syria and Libya. And recognized a terrorist group as legitimate government of Egypt.

 

[Donner]

Terrorist group is a jump.


You're acting like Obama is the first president to pull this crap. Bush scared American citizens for years with terrorists-are-going-to-kill-you rhetoric so he could win elections and gain support for political wars.

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

Israel destroys Palestinian homes to make way for Israeli "Bible" Park and Jewish Only Settlements

The green ink may look innocuous on paper, but for 50-year-old Totanji it signals the impending arrival of bulldozers to demolish his one-storey house, leaving the family of 16 - including a seven-month-old granddaughter - homeless.

As Israeli authorities declare “national parks” over residential areas, thousands of Palestinians living in overcrowded neighbourhoods close by Jerusalem’s Old City are being trapped in a similar planning nightmare.

Source: http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/i...h-bible-trail-encircling-jerusalem-1585955449

Ethnic Cleansing has really increased in 2016

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

Israel just stole another 1,250 acres of Palestinian Land in the West Bank

IDF Troops talking with Extremist Jewish settlers as they stage a sit in to prevent Palestinian farmers from working on their fields.


The Israeli authorities on Saturday delivered notices to the Palestinian village of Jalud in the northern occupied West Bank, alerting residents that 5,000 dunams (1,250 acres) of private land were slated for confiscation in what appeared to be the retroactive legalization of illegal outposts in the area.

A PA official who monitors settlement activity in the northern West Bank, Ghassan Daghlas, told Ma’an that confiscation orders like those delivered to Jalud aim solely to expand illegal settlements, despite citing alleged security concerns.
“Security reasons are just a tool to cover up land robberies for settlement construction,” Daghlas said.

Daghlas told Ma’an that Jalud’s local council had filed complaints to Israel’s High Court against settlement activity on their private land, which settlers have taken over and harvested illegally after the Israeli army designated the areas as closed military zones.

Some 12 illegal settlements and 27 settlement outposts are located in the Nablus district housing around 23,000 of the "most extremist settlers in the Palestinian territory," according to Daghlas.

Source

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

Israelis caught altering documents to steal Palestinian family's land

The government has handed the land to Amana, a Zionist organisation that its own fraud squad has just found guilty of forgery and deception. According to an investigation by Israeli news source Haaretz, the land has been given to Amana, an NGO which builds illegal settlements and outposts in the occupied West Bank. The group was formed as an offshoot of the messianic Zionist movement Gush Emunim, and is run by Ze'ev Hever, a convicted terrorist.

Source:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-by-secretly-altering-documents-a7019871.html

 

[Dopinder]

Man there's so much misinformation here about Israel...

But I'm having a tough time writing my thoughts down on this subject. There's a lot I can say towards palestine and how twisted the media here is towards Israel, but I don't like to argue with anyone and I realize I can't change anyone's opinion.

And now there's no point to my comment.....

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

Israel's Defense Minister Right Wing Minister resigns because [ironically] Israel is leaning too far to the Right

"...to my great regret, extremist and dangerous elements have overrun Israel as well as the Likud Party...."

Source: http://www.vox.com/2016/5/20/11720364/moshe-yaalon-resign

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He has been replaced by Avigdor Lieberman, who now controls over 4 Million Palestinians and was quoted as saying those who are against Israel deserve to have their heads chopped off with an axe; also stated he wants to blow up the Aswan Dam in Egypt, and wants to force Palestinian-Israeli Arabs to recognize Israel as a religious Jewish state or face expulsion and removal of citizenship.

 

[Dr. Evil]

So how in the world did Israelis go from the persecuted (Europe in World War II) to the persecutors (what they are doing today).

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

So how in the world did Israelis go from the persecuted (Europe in World War II) to the persecutors (what they are doing today).

Simple Answer: Zionism

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

Israeli Terrorist Who Burned Palestinian Family Alive To be set Free

Ettinger,the grandson of the slain far-right activist (terrorist) Meir Kahane, was detained following the murder of the Dawabsheh family in the West Bank village of Duma last July...The Shin Bet security service's number one Jewish*suspect of terrorism will be released*from administrative detention later this month, state prosecutors said Tuesday.

Following his detention, a judge noted that Ettinger encouraged acts of violence that harmed Israel's security, and that he organized a violent revolt aimed at toppling the state.*

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.720047

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Israel Accuses Facebook of Perpetuating West Bank Violence

Israel’s Public Security Minister Gilad Erdan accused Facebook and its chief executive Mark Zuckerberg of being partially responsible for violence in the West Bank, including the murder of a 13-year old Israeli girl last Thursday. Eredan claims that Facebook failed to remove extremist content that incited violence and hampered the work of Israeli police.

About three dozen Israelis and more than 200 Palestinians have been killed in the regional conflict since October, according to Bloomberg.

Erdan said in a Saturday newscast:

Some of the victims’ blood is on Zuckerberg’s hands. Facebook has turned into a monster. The younger generation in the Palestinian Authority runs its entire discourse of incitement and lies and finally goes out to commit murderous acts on Facebook’s platform.​

Israeli politician and entrepreneur Erel Margalit agreed with Erdan’s assertion that Facebook has become a threat to the Israeli poeple, telling Haaretz, “The next terror attack is hiding among the thousands of likes and shares that terrorists get these days.”

Facebook did not respond directly to Erdan’s comments, but released a statement indicating they are more than willing to cooperating with the Israeli government:

We work regularly with safety organizations and policymakers around the world, including Israel, to ensure that people know how to make safe use of Facebook. There is no room for content that promotes violence, direct threats, terrorists or hate speeches on our platform….We have a set of community standards designed to help people understand what’s allowed on Facebook, and we call on people to use our report if they find content they believe violates these rules, so that we can examine each case and take quick action.​

Reuters reported last week that several of the world’s largest Internet companies, including Facebook, have been quietly deploying systems that censor videos containing extremist content amidst pressure from President Obama and European leaders, who fear such content could lead to terror attacks.

http://gawker.com/israel-accuses-facebook-of-perpetuating-west-bank-viole-1783052383

 

[Kelly]

And yet they take down in a second any of my videos using popular music. On Memorial day I made a video of our troops, patriotic, etc....and I put a couple of Michael W Smith piano pieces with him, "Heroes" and "Patriot" and within 1 minute it was taken down from Facebook.... So weird....

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

And yet they take down in a second any of my videos using popular music. On Memorial day I made a video of our troops, patriotic, etc....and I put a couple of Michael W Smith piano pieces with him, "Heroes" and "Patriot" and within 1 minute it was taken down from Facebook.... So weird....

Copyright issues?

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

Israel Accuses Facebook of Perpetuating West Bank Violence

http://gawker.com/israel-accuses-facebook-of-perpetuating-west-bank-viole-1783052383

The Isreali ones that promote death to Arabs and that Palestinians don't exist are still up for some reason, and coincidentally, no arrests made.

There are facebook groups out there that are truly hateful and those promote violence should be shutdown. In terms of arresting people for free speech, that is just messed up.

In 2004 U.S. State Department Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for Israel and the Occupied Territories, the Israeli government had done "little to reduce institutional, legal, and societal discrimination against the country's Arab citizens."

Most of the last string of violence in Israel is due to the 'accidental' death of a 14 year old boy driving home with his friends after swimming. Nobody was charged, and no reviews were made. It was simply called an accident, even though witnesses said the children posed no threat. This is also a month or two after an Israeli terrorist was given a 4 month sentence for burning a family alive.

After the stabbing death of an Israeli settler child, Israel's reprisal has called for renewal to steal millions of acres of Palestinian West Bank land in occupied area "Area C" , complete demolition of the stabber's home and village and selling the land to Israeli settlers. They also justified a new discriminatory law that Israeli Arabs who criticize Israel can now be arrested for speaking ill and can be arrested with no charge, indefinitely.

Just 2 days ago, a pregnant Palestinian woman was pepper sprayed and then shot and killed at a checkpoint, and paramedics were not allowed at the scene where she bled to death. No soldier was questioned or charged. This is the normal in Israel because: "Now we have a settler as defense minister and even a settler as police chief. And based on the court’s seniority system, in 2028 [they] will have a settler as chief justice, meaning an offender as president of the Supreme Court. Source

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

Israel-Palestine headed for War, John Kerry appears agitated

Kerry repeatedly raised his voice, emphasizing that Israel and the Palestinians are moving in the direction of a binational state rather than a Palestinian state alongside Israel and are also headed toward war. He added that if the international community is interested in putting a halt to these developments, “Either we mean it and we act on it, or we should shut up. Western diplomats who were present at the meeting, but who asked not to be identified because the meeting was not public, noted that Kerry was extremely agitated.

Source: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.744060

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

Israeli diplomat caught on camera plotting to take down UK MP's critical of Israel

Mr Masot asked her (Strizzolo): "Can I give you some names of MPs that I would suggest you take down?" Masot (former IDF Major) agreed that Blunt was among MPs that were “strongly pro-Arab rather than pro-Israel”. Strizzolo referred to him being on a “hitlist”.

UK ministers are understood to regard such plot talks as a matter of serious concern, crossing the line beyond normal diplomatic activity.

How Israel tries to subvert UK's democracy:



Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3dn-VV3czc&t=29s

News Link: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-38545671

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Haven't you realized by now Obama is child when it comes to foreign policy.

I love that this is the first post on this page. Fitting with Trump poised to become the President who has done nothing but be completely oblivious to how foreign policy works and should be conducted. You will be begging for Obama in less than a year.

 

[TheVileOne]

I love that this is the first post on this page. Fitting with Trump poised to become the President who has done nothing but be completely oblivious to how foreign policy works and should be conducted. You will be begging for Obama in less than a year.

After what he and Kerry did to Israel, not really. Especially after Kerry's racist, anti-semitic, anti-Israel garbage.

 

[Donner]

After what he and Kerry did to Israel, not really. Especially after Kerry's racist, anti-semitic, anti-Israel garbage.

Except that it wasn't. Your overreaction does not make what he said racist or anti-Semitic. It just makes you dramatic.

 

[TheVileOne]

Except that it wasn't. Your overreaction does not make what he said racist or anti-Semitic. It just makes you dramatic.

Yes it does.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.