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The bucs are lucky. Ghrams done just about 80% of the footwork this game, and he hasn't gotten hurt yet.
 
The kicks up...and its good!

Need one more ****ing nice drive right here and hope for the best.
 
Tom Brady > Peyton Manning

Had to be said. :trans:

Tom Brady's system and supporting cast > Peyton Manning's.

They are both great, but there isn't a throw Manning can't make - and he has the best football mind of any player in the game.
 
looks like the pats will just scrap by with the win
 
Tom Brady's system and supporting cast > Peyton Manning's.

They are both great, but there isn't a throw Manning can't make - and he has the best football mind of any player in the game.

Um....are we forgetting the last five or six years? The three rings? The no name cast Brady was throwing to?

And if you wanna talk system and supporting cast, Manning is still throwing to Harrison, Wayne, Clark, and Addai, not to mention he's been in the same system with the same coordinator since 1998.

And now that Brady actually has a crew to rival Manning's, he's putting up even better numbers than Manning did.
 
this Brady vs Manning argument will go on forever .
 
Lions 23
Bucs 16

You can't win games when you fumble the ball at the goal line. 2 turnovers, a blocked punt, and a missed field goal were the story of this one. The Bucs defense played rock solid, and the offense ate up the clock. But if you turn the ball over, your drives mean nothing.

A home date with the soon-to-be 5-1 Jaguars will be a tough test.
 
How did the Texans manage this comeback behind Sage Rosenfels? :confused:
 
Um....are we forgetting the last five or six years? The three rings? The no name cast Brady was throwing to?

And if you wanna talk system and supporting cast, Manning is still throwing to Harrison, Wayne, Clark, and Addai, not to mention he's been in the same system with the same coordinator since 1998.

And now that Brady actually has a crew to rival Manning's, he's putting up even better numbers than Manning did.

Brady's teams have always been better than Mannings overall.

Yes, offensively Manning has always been blessed - but his performance was always ungodly high as well.

Plus, its hard to really look at Manning's weapons and assume that their production level would be the same if they were with another QB, while they are without a doubt talented - the fact they have a QB like Manning giving them the ball certainly makes them look good.

Yes - Manning has had the same coordinator since 1998 - but he also has the most control of his offense than any other QB. They Colts would not be the same team if Manning was replaced with any other QB in the NFL - including Tom Brady.

They are both incredibly good - however Manning's extra responsibilities in game give him the nod in my book.
 
They Colts would not be the same team if Manning was replaced with any other QB in the NFL - including Tom Brady.

Wha???? :eek:

They wouldn't be the "same" by the very definition of the word "same", but are you suggesting there would actually be a significant drop-off if the Colts had Tom Brady???

Wha??? :eek:

All the checks and reads Manning makes are nice and dandy, but they do all of that (3 plays at the line, check to the best one) because he can, not necessarily because they have to. Who's to say Brady couldn't do the same?

You give Tom Brady that offensive line, Addai, Harrison, Clark, and Wayne.....*dies from the sheer thought*
 
I'm in love with a man. That man's name is Adrian Peterson.
 
I think no matter what, Brady and Manning are the top two quarterbacks in the league, and I am glad I have had the pleasure of watching them both play. Big Ups to the NFL Package.
 
^ Best QB in the NFL right now

Ehhh....3 of his tds-the 2 to Moss and 1 to Stallworth-occured mainly due to their talent; not Bradys throw. He is better than Manning; though Brady doesnt deserve ALL the credit.
 
Brady is better, now we are just seeing a superhuman version of him with actual good receivers to throw to. Before that he was still better than Manning.

I think every time that a team just kicks it out of bounds and takes the penalty instead of kicking it to Hester, the Bears should on the first play of that drive just bomb it out to Hester. Just let him outrun everyone down the field and throw it as far as you can. If you can keep the ball inbounds, I don't think you can overthrow Hester.
 
Wha???? :eek:

They wouldn't be the "same" by the very definition of the word "same", but are you suggesting there would actually be a significant drop-off if the Colts had Tom Brady???

Wha??? :eek:

All the checks and reads Manning makes are nice and dandy, but they do all of that (3 plays at the line, check to the best one) because he can, not necessarily because they have to. Who's to say Brady couldn't do the same?

You give Tom Brady that offensive line, Addai, Harrison, Clark, and Wayne.....*dies from the sheer thought*

I don't think their is another QB that would be able to run the Colts offense, nor have it perform to the level of Peyton Manning.

Tom Brady's team now is better on both sides than Mannings now, including his offensive cast.
 
I don't think their is another QB that would be able to run the Colts offense, nor have it perform to the level of Peyton Manning.

Tom Brady's team now is better on both sides than Mannings now, including his offensive cast.

Your brain doesn't function right.
 
Bears win. Too bad they can't open the offense like that in any other time during the game.
 
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