2009 NCAA Football Thread: Revenge of the Computer Polls

[Arc-Light]

The Big 10 + 2? Someone in their front office has to realize the stupidity of their name with the number of teams they have (or will have). Then again, those same front office people did sign an extension to keep the Rose Bowl a Pac-10/Big 10 "tradition".

Whats wrong with that?.....it is tradition.

 

[BlackLantern]

some traditions are stupid

 

[El_Citrus]

Whats wrong with that?.....it is tradition.

Signing that extension was a big middle finger to all of the playoff supporters out there, because the Rose Bowl isn't going to be excluded from a playoff system, but wouldn't be able to have their "traditional" Pac10-Big 10 game under a playoff system. Barring Congressional force, the BCS is going to have to yield their power in order for a playoff system to be in place, and the Rose Bowl added another excuse as to why they won't give up on the BCS.

 

[Immortalfire]

2 years back, fans of both teams and non-fans around the country all wanted USC/Georgia in the Rose Bowl following the 07 season. Instead, Southern Cal slaughtered Illinois, and we walloped Hawaii.

The BCS people have got their heads so far up their rears, they'd rather stick with "tradition" than give viewers a good game.

 

[Arc-Light]

I don't see anyone else *****ing about SEC always goes sugar etc. Until their is a play-off, ill stick with traditional tie ins with the bowls.

 

[StorminNorman]

2 years back, fans of both teams and non-fans around the country all wanted USC/Georgia in the Rose Bowl following the 07 season. Instead, Southern Cal slaughtered Illinois, and we walloped Hawaii.

The BCS people have got their heads so far up their rears, they'd rather stick with "tradition" than give viewers a good game.

Not only did they put Illinois against USC, they CHANGED THE RULES MID SEASON to do it.

I don't see anyone else *****ing about SEC always goes sugar etc. Until their is a play-off, ill stick with traditional tie ins with the bowls.

Best game matchups > tradition.

If we are going to make the Citrus Bowl the CapitalOne Bowl and the Peach Bowl the Chik-Fil-A Bowl, the excuse of "maintaining the honored tradition of Bowl Games" becomes even more BS to add to the already impressive pile the BCS has earned.

I heard the Big 12 commish (or one of his peons) today argue that the only reason it SEEMS like more people want a playoff system is that only the people that want to change the status quo is heard. The level of arrogance demonstrated by the BCS and her saviors is mind boggling.

 

[TMC1982]

http://www.fangsbites.com/2009/12/3rd-annual-fangs-bites-college-football.html

The College Gameday Best Pregame Show Award - College Gameday, ESPN.

The Keith Jackson Award for Best Play-by-Play - Verne Lundquist, CBS.

Honorable mentions - Ron Franklin - ESPN/ABC, Sean McDonough - ABC and Brad Nessler - ESPN

The Frank Broyles Award for Best Color Analyst - Todd Blacklege, ESPN.

Honorable mentions - Gary Danielson - CBS, Pat Haden - NBC, Chris Spielman - ESPN

Best Overall Announcing Team - Verne Lundquist and Gary Danielson, CBS.

Honorable mentions - Brad Nessler/Todd Blackledge, ESPN; Mike Patrick/Craig James, ESPN/ABC; Tom Hammond/Pat Haden, NBC

The Jim Lampley Award for Best Studio Host - Tim Brando, CBS, in an upset over previous two-time winner Rece Davis.

Honorable mentions - Rece Davis - ESPN, John Saunders - ABC, Jimmy Roberts - NBC

Best Studio Analyst - Jesse Palmer, ABC.

Honorable mentions - Spencer Tillman - CBS, Kirk Herbstreit - ESPN

The Jack Arute Award for Best Sideline Reporter - No one.

Most Valuable Network - CBS.

Best Overall Coverage - CBS.

The Phil Stone Award for Worst Play-by-Play - Pam Ward, ESPN.

Dishonorable mentions - Terry Gannon - ESPN/ABC; Joe Tessitore - ESPN

Worst Analyst (Studio or Game) - Ray Bentley, ESPN.

Worst Sideline Reporter - Tracy Wolfson, CBS.

Dishonorable mention - Rob Stone - ESPN

Most Bizarre Moment - Bob Griese - ESPN for his "out having a taco" comment regarding NASCAR driver Juan Pablo Montoya during the Minnesota-Ohio State game.

Worst Studio Show - College Football Live, ESPN, only when hosted by the arrogant Erik Kuselias.

Worst Treatment of a Legend - Ron Franklin by ESPN.

 

[BlackLantern]

there's a lot of CBS love in there, not so sure about that

 

[BlackLantern]

someone going to the BCS title game is a bit lonely and is looking for a friend

http://austin.craigslist.org/tix/1512120466.html

 

[Immortalfire]

 

[BlackLantern]

I'm sure his girlfriend really regrets breaking up with him now

 

[Immortalfire]

I was just given my first Christmas gift tonight...

....I got a damn authentic AJ Green jersey. OMG

 

[Mister J]

Bowl Season Pick 'Em. Come and get it!

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=332558

 

[BlackLantern]

if anyone cares, the New Mexico Bowl and St. Petersburg Bowl are on ESPN tonight

 

[StorminNorman]

St. Peterburg Bowl is HUGE for UCF.

The UCF fanbase has bought a lot of tickets for the game, and the school is still looking for it's first bowl win.

If UCF is able to beat Rutgers and impress the Big East suits by our fandom, it's our first real step towards joining that conference. Add in the fact that the Big East may lose a school to the Big 10 and it's even better.

UCF is worth watching for average fans simply because there is a lot of pro-level talent and UCF is a very goo Pro school.

 

[Cmill216]

Brandon Marshall
Asante Samuel
Mike Sims-Walker
Kevin Smith

All within the past few years.

 

[FaT_tONle]

That's your alma mater ain't it? As far as Big East expansion, I don't see it. I think they want to stay small for now. UCF hasn't done nearly enough as of yet.

 

[StorminNorman]

That's your alma mater ain't it? As far as Big East expansion, I don't see it. I think they want to stay small for now. UCF hasn't done nearly enough as of yet.

Yes.

How does the Big East benefit from staying small? Especially when you throw in the fact they may lose a team. Conference Championship Games = More $$$ and more publicity. They are going to have to replace whoever they lose with another team, and while they add one, they might as well add two (something that has been discussed for a long time now).

UCF hasn't done anything spectacular...but neither have most of the schools in the Big East. UCF has far better facilities than USF, and they have a much better football alumni list than USF.

UCF makes more sense than any team in the country. Orlando is a major market, adding another Florida school means everyone in the Big East plays more Florida games (which is huge for recruiting), UCF already has BCS-school level facilities and UCF is the third largest school in the country. Plus there is already a rivalry in place with USF (and rivalries are good for a conference).

Since conferences exist outside of simply football, UCF helps in other sports (which is something to keep in mind), including our basketball team that now has headlines with Marcus Jordan.

When (not if) the Big East expands, the two teams that make the most sense are UCF and Memphis.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Who is going to leave? Big 10 would have added a team years ago if they wanted a Championship game. ACC already has its. Pac 10 won't recruit out of the Big East. Why would anyone move? It's more likely the Big East will expand as opposed to teams defecting, but I just question if its the right time. You don't want to dilute the conference. Conference USA can afford to dump a team as they have like 13 or 14 schools, but I don't know if they want 9 teams. They will probably add two schools at or around the same time if and when they go to 10. I'd just prefer these other programs to consistently be good, like Pitt, USF, Rutgers, before they start adding schools. You will lose credibility if you have too many bad programs.

 

[StorminNorman]

Who is going to leave? Big 10 would have added a team years ago if they wanted a Championship game. ACC already has its. Pac 10 won't recruit out of the Big East. Why would anyone move? It's more likely the Big East will expand as opposed to teams defecting, but I just question if its the right time. You don't want to dilute the conference. Conference USA can afford to dump a team as they have like 13 or 14 schools, but I don't know if they want 9 teams. They will probably add two schools at or around the same time if and when they go to 10. I'd just prefer these other programs to consistently be good, like Pitt, USF, Rutgers, before they start adding schools. You will lose credibility if you have too many bad programs.

You haven't been keeping up with the news, have you? The Big 10 has announced they are looking at expansion.

The Big 10 is a clearly supperior conference to the Big East, teams like Rutgers, Pittsburgh, Cincinatti and Louisville will be appealing to the Big 10. If I had to guess, I would say Rutgers looks the most like a Big 10 team (for reasons that go beyond simply their football program. Academically, which does play a big factor in the Big 10, Rutgers is supperior to the others).

UCF is not a bad program, it's a developing program. A developing program with tremendous potential due to it's location, student body and alumni. If UCF carried the BCS banner, it would instantly improve recruiting, further improving the program. UCF is badly in need for a new coaching regime, but that will be taken care of by 2011 (O'Leary's contract ends in 2010). 2011 is the year the Big 10 plans for the expansion to occur (with the plan in place by next year).

You want to improve the conference, then you increase it's ability to recruit, it's ability to get on TV and it's ability to make money. UCF, more than any other school, delivers on every level.

 

[BlackLantern]

UConn just went Div 1 in 2002 and look how far they've come along...the Big East has the potential to be an awesome conference

 

[StorminNorman]

UCF needs a visionary like Edsall. George O'Leary may be the worst positioned coach in the country do to the fact he is dull. O'Leary know's his X's and O's, but he doesn't know how to build a program from scratch (which is what is needed). He lacks charisma that is necessary to sell a program without pedigree and has shown a bad habit of hiring awful supporting staff.

 

[BlackLantern]

ya Coach Edsall was instrumental in both the jump to Div 1 and the Rentschler Field proposal

 

[StorminNorman]

Teams need to understand that in today's age, charisma is vital in a head coach. Your head coach is the icon of the program. You want to sell your school to players, you sell your coach.

O'Leary is old, pink and talks with a Boston accent. He's as exciting as Wyoming.

My dream coach for UCF last year was Lane Kiffin, Kiffin has done exactly what I expected from him at Tennessee.

 

[FaT_tONle]

You haven't been keeping up with the news, have you? The Big 10 has announced they are looking at expansion.

The Big 10 is a clearly supperior conference to the Big East, teams like Rutgers, Pittsburgh, Cincinatti and Louisville will be appealing to the Big 10. If I had to guess, I would say Rutgers looks the most like a Big 10 team (for reasons that go beyond simply their football program. Academically, which does play a big factor in the Big 10, Rutgers is supperior to the others).

UCF is not a bad program, it's a developing program. A developing program with tremendous potential due to it's location, student body and alumni. If UCF carried the BCS banner, it would instantly improve recruiting, further improving the program. UCF is badly in need for a new coaching regime, but that will be taken care of by 2011 (O'Leary's contract ends in 2010). 2011 is the year the Big 10 plans for the expansion to occur (with the plan in place by next year).

You want to improve the conference, then you increase it's ability to recruit, it's ability to get on TV and it's ability to make money. UCF, more than any other school, delivers on every level.

I went to Rutgers. The new AD likes to talk like he has big plans for the athletics program. It's all talk. Nothing will come of it. If all of a sudden the Big 10 is going to add a team, why did they wait this long? ND was never coming I get that. But they could have bought out a school from the MAC if they needed a 12th team, maybe a Miami(OH), Bowling Green, whatever. I am sure one of those schools meets their academic requirements. I am sure the Big East will expand eventually, but again, expanding too fast will just augment the negative stigma surrounding the conference. And what about their basketball? Are they going to 18 or 20 teams there as well? Kicking ND out and making them go independent in everything would be a start. But you can't keep adding programs without accounting for the fact that they have 16 schools as it is.