2011/2012 NBA Thread : A Season Reborn - Part 2

[CConn]

It's odd that the Sixers seem to have the Celtics' number as much as they do.

I at very least expected the game to be close like the Knicks game.

 

[TheWatcher]

Ray was out and Pietrus was held to limited time. We are inconsistent on offense without those injuries.

 

[CConn]

Omg. Why does everyone have to use injures as an excuse to lose?

Even without Ray, you have at least three all stars on that team. You should still be able to win.

 

[Anubis]

Ehhh, I think a key injury does affect the game. For instance, there's a damn good chance Minnesota woulda beat OKC the other day had Rubio not torn his ACL. That s**t is important. Of course sometimes that s**t don't matter, like when the Bulls beat the s**t outta the Magic without D-Rose......not that that has anything to do with this convo.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

It's odd that the Sixers seem to have the Celtics' number as much as they do.

I at very least expected the game to be close like the Knicks game.

I expected us to lose the way we was playing early on in the game.

 

[CConn]

Ehhh, I think a key injury does affect the game. For instance, there's a damn good chance Minnesota woulda beat OKC the other day had Rubio not torn his ACL. That s**t is important. Of course sometimes that s**t don't matter, like when the Bulls beat the s**t outta the Magic without D-Rose......not that that has anything to do with this convo.

Oh, it affects the game, no doubt. But a good team should have enough weapons where one injury won't ruin their chances at winning games.

As you brought, your Bulls are a good team and were able to excell despite Rose being out.

The Celtics should be a similar type of team; they're not as good as the Bulls, obviously, and are quite old, but they should still be able to play competitively when they have two future HOFers and Rondo to boot on their active roster.

 

[TheWatcher]

The greatest 3 point shooter ever and our 6th man were out and you say we should be able to beat the deepest team in the league on the road?

 

[Anubis]

The deepest team would either be the Bulls or the Pacers.....the Sixers are up there though.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

Ima sixers fan but I lol at them being a deep team. We far from being a deep team, I mean would you say a 27-21 squad is a deep team?

 

[CConn]

The Sixers are kinda deep.

I mean, they really have 7 starters counting Williams and Young. They're not particularly deep with bigs, though. And their other main problem is all 5 of those starting guards/forwards they have are all around the same skill level.

 

[TheWatcher]

Their record doesn't indicate how deep they go.

I was wrong saying they were the deepest but they do get a lot of production off the pine. I would say the Spurs are up there as well.

 

[TheOnlyOmega]

4th Overtime in Atlanta. This game is intense

 

[Doc Samson]

Im sick and tired of every time the Heat are losing, whoever's calling the game blames it on them "not being into it." Like it's impossible for them to lose if they're "serious."

No, they're into this game tonight, they're just getting handled right now, that's all. And knowing the Thunder's style of play, they might let the Heat back into it anyway.

 

[Docker2.0]

Agreed Doc! I honestly think the Heat are(dare I say it)overrated. I honestly think OKC or the Bulls are better teams than them, have better records and definetly better coaches but yet you only hear about how great the Heat are. It makes it hard to watch the Heat play but seeing them lose to OKC was a great sight for sore eyes.

 

[lordofthenerds]

The Sixers are kinda deep.

I mean, they really have 7 starters counting Williams and Young. They're not particularly deep with bigs, though. And their other main problem is all 5 of those starting guards/forwards they have are all around the same skill level.

I'd say Iggy is a notch above the rest as far as overall skill level. The guy's a stat sheet stuffer.

 

[Darthphere]

Im sick and tired of every time the Heat are losing, whoever's calling the game blames it on them "not being into it." Like it's impossible for them to lose if they're "serious."

No, they're into this game tonight, they're just getting handled right now, that's all. And knowing the Thunder's style of play, they might let the Heat back into it anyway.

The thing is 9/10 times, it's actually the reason. Tonight thought, they just got plain and simple outclassed.

 

[Doc Samson]

One of the worst outings defensively from the Lakers all season. Not to mention Mike Brown, I hope he has some sort of explanation for that stunt he pulled, especially considering how much restraint Kobe showed all night, both offensively & with the lackluster D on display.

The thing is 9/10 times, it's actually the reason. Tonight thought, they just got plain and simple outclassed.

I don't know, seems to me any team with youth and size inside gives them problems. For a team with two of the most athletic players ever seen, they're oddly susceptible against uptempo teams that can equal their fastbreak

 

[Immortalfire]

I read this morning that the last time the Hawks played a 4 overtime game, was February 1982...five months before the world knew my name.

Long time.

 

[Darthphere]

One of the worst outings defensively from the Lakers all season. Not to mention Mike Brown, I hope he has some sort of explanation for that stunt he pulled, especially considering how much restraint Kobe showed all night, both offensively & with the lackluster D on display.



I don't know, seems to me any team with youth and size inside gives them problems. For a team with two of the most athletic players ever seen, they're oddly susceptible against uptempo teams that can equal their fastbreak

You pretty much keep Lebron out of the paint and make them play a half court offense, they're not going to do much.

 

[Raiden]

One of the worst outings defensively from the Lakers all season. Not to mention Mike Brown, I hope he has some sort of explanation for that stunt he pulled, especially considering how much restraint Kobe showed all night, both offensively & with the lackluster D on display.

There was no excuses why Lakers lose to a team that were blown out by Clippers just a day or so before, and at home, to boot. Plus benching Kobe when Memphis was still within reach is asinine. The coaching staff gets a D- for last night's loss for sure...the team obviously was not ready to play hard and it showed.

 

[Docker2.0]

You pretty much keep Lebron out of the paint and make them play a half court offense, they're not going to do much.

Let me ask you a question Darth since you are a Heat fan: Do you feel the Heat are overrated to a degree? Also, do you think they can win a ring this year with Spoelstra as their coach? Because I can't see them going all the way with him as their coach. It's not that he's a bad coach, I just don't think he's right for that team and he doesn't bring out the best in those guys.

I know these guys have been blowing people out all year but I can see the Bulls, Magic, and possibly even the Knicks beating them in the playoffs. It seems like if anyone can challenge James on both ends of the floor, he tends to disappear.

 

[Docker2.0]

There was no excuses why Lakers lose to a team that were blown out by Clippers just a day or so before, and at home, to boot. Plus benching Kobe when Memphis was still within reach is asinine. The coaching staff gets a D- for last night's loss for sure...the team obviously was not ready to play hard and it showed.

I agree 100%. I thought Kobe was the only one to really bring it the entire game last night so I didn't understand that benching at all. If he didn't play, it would have been a huge blowout. Bad coaching on Brown's part.

 

[Darthphere]

Let me ask you a question Darth since you are a Heat fan: Do you feel the Heat are overrated to a degree? Also, do you think they can win a ring this year with Spoelstra as their coach? Because I can't see them going all the way with him as their coach. It's not that he's a bad coach, I just don't think he's right for that team and he doesn't bring out the best in those guys.

I know these guys have been blowing people out all year but I can see the Bulls, Magic, and possibly even the Knicks beating them in the playoffs. It seems like if anyone can challenge James on both ends of the floor, he tends to disappear.

It's a complicated question really. I just think, where would this team be under Pat Riley and have to say, they'd be a lot better. I question the discipline and work ethic of this team as they sleep walk through a lot of games and turn it on all of a sudden and get wins (like with Phoenix). I think a big name coach like Pat Riley and Phil Jackson would never allow that to happen. I just don't think Spo is that type of coach or has the respect from the star players, most notably Wade and Lebron. If the Heat don't win it all this season, I think Spo is gone. At the end of the day though, this team is only going as far as Lebron and Wade take them.

As for being overrated? Maybe. They've lost some head scratchers but ultimately, I think they can be a lot better. On paper, they're the best team in the league. They should beat everyone. They have some glaring weaknesses but I still think they have enough TALENT to win it all. It's whether they have enough drive and determination to do the work necessary, on both ends of the floor to get it done.

 

[Raiden]

Amare out "indefinitely" with bulging disk

Lin is also out with sore knee.

 

[Anubis]

That sounds painful.