2012: A Monster Year? (box office predictions) - Part 4

[enterthemadness]

Um ok, Spidy cahnce of hitting 300 million just died lololol.

ASM is gonna drop 60% this weekend. Looking around 200 million Opening for TDKR. 25 at midnights?

 

[jmc]

Yes, I get what you're saying.

I'm just saying I don't prescribe to the notion that one film can be more preferable than another for characters alone. TDK is a better movie, so it's better period, despite it having more of an ensamble focus.

On top of that the Batman mythology is more than just Bruce Wayne in costume, it encompasses an entire city. Harvey Dent is as much a part of the Batman story as Bruce Wayne himself is. And if we're going to go into this 'ones a better Batman story than this one' type of stuff then really fans should be doing that in all media, but you don't hear people go around saying Killing Joke is great story but not a great Batman story, so why is it film is the exception to the rule under which a line is being drawn?

 

[Bruce Malone]

I think the sheer fact that there is such an uproar over the few negative reviews shows that this film is engendering a type of passion in the public i don't know has ever been seen before.

The Avengers was big but i don't remember the sheer passion coming from people hyped for TDKR.

 

[CConn]

On top of that the Batman mythology is more than just Bruce Wayne in costume, it encompasses an entire city. Harvey Dent is as much a part of the Batman story as Bruce Wayne himself is. And if we're going to go into this 'ones a better Batman story than this one' type of stuff then really fans should be doing that in all media, but you don't hear people go around saying Killing Joke is great story but not a great Batman story, so why is it film is the exception to the rule under which a line is being drawn?

Yeah, exactly.

It's like people who complain about Batman being a supporting cast member of Batman Returns; everything in the movie serves as an introspection of Batman as a character, even if it's not always necessarily him himself.

 

[jmc]

I think the sheer fact that there is such an uproar over the few negative reviews shows that this film is engendering a type of passion in the public i don't know has ever been seen before.

The Avengers was big but i don't remember the sheer passion coming from people hyped for TDKR.

Well there's passion, and then there's idiocy. All those 'fans' who got up in arms about a few bad reivews on RT and started posting threatening comments are idiots.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Oh for sure but i'm talking about the general public not the extremists.

 

[DACrowe]

At this point, I don't care. I've read more than a few reviews, seen the different viewpoints (at least on the film's quality, though I think there is more meat there than we've seen discussed thematically). All I care about is seeing the movie now and deciding for myself....Saturday.

It is odd that many of the negative reviews boil down to, "It wasn't as good as TDK." And that makes TDKR bad, because?....

Oh well. Two more days.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

That's why I didn't count it. In the Dollars Trilogy, each film was better than the last and while they are all great, the only one I'd mention when we start talking about all-time classics on the level of TDK is The Good, The Bad & The Ugly. Now if you want to play loose with the term sequel and say that Once Upon a Time in the West is a sequel to the Dollars Trilogy, then yes, it would qualify. But I don't really consider it a sequel.

It isn't, sadly because Clint Eastwood didn't want to work with Sergio Leone anymore after TGTBATU.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

It isn't, sadly because Clint Eastwood didn't want to work with Sergio Leone anymore after TGTBATU.

Why not?

 

[Bim]

I think the sheer fact that there is such an uproar over the few negative reviews shows that this film is engendering a type of passion in the public i don't know has ever been seen before.

I think the only ones with the uproar are the extremists over at the Batboards that are obsessed with a %

 

[CConn]

At this point, I don't care. I've read more than a few reviews, seen the different viewpoints (at least on the film's quality, though I think there is more meat there than we've seen discussed thematically). All I care about is seeing the movie now and deciding for myself....Saturday.

It is odd that many of the negative reviews boil down to, "It wasn't as good as TDK." And that makes TDKR bad, because?....

Oh well. Two more days.

Personally, I'm still expecting to enjoy it more than TDK.

As good as TDK was, most of its quality derived from Ledger's incredible performance.

The story behind TDKR seems vastly more interesting to me, PLUS it has Bane, who has been reported as being near-Joker level good.

The only concern I have for the movie is that it might end up being just a bit TOO bloated for its own good. But I'm just making wild guesses.

 

[Shifty]

TDKR looks to have the 2nd widest opening with 4404 theaters! July has been lite on new releases as studios mosly steered clear of it because of Spider-Man and Batman. Why have an mostly empty theater for Madagascar 3 when there can be one half full for TDKR.

 

[rashad]

THURSDAY 6 PM, 3RD UPDATE: A Warner Bros executive just told me, “The Dark Knight Rises is tearing up the box at midnight. It should pass Marvel’s The Avengers‘ $18.7M as the largest superhero midnight show of all time.” Warner Bros’ and Legendary Pictures’ mega-movie has 2,500 sold-out showtimes onFandango, and today is trending to be one of that big online ticket vendor’s top-selling Thursdays in the company’s 12–year history. Most interesting is that Chris Nolan’s Batman trilogy finale is outpacing the early summer blockbuster Marvel’s The Avengers in ticket sales at the same point in Fandango’s sales cycle. “Today’s ticket sales are relentless, just like the action in the movie,” a Fandango executive just told me. MORE LATER

http://www.deadline.com/2012/07/dar...records-scalpers-brinks-trucks-than-avengers/

 

[Iceman]

To me nearly all films & most of my favourites aren't as good as TDK so it's one of the lightest possible criticisms you could make about a film.

 

[rashad]

‘Dark Knight Rises’ Starts Foreign Release: #1 At Australian Box Office With $3.5M
By THE DEADLINE TEAM | Thursday July 19, 2012 @ 7:17pm PDT

Warner Bros. Pictures’ and Legendary Pictures’ The Dark Knight Rises rode into Australia’s cinemas and IMAX, grossing in excess of $3.5M in its first day on screens, making it the #1 movie in the country. Chris Nolan’s Batman finale was released Down Under on Thursday to mostly rave reviews by the local film critics. This was its first foreign rollout. Warner Bros this coming weekend is releasing The Dark Knight Rises into only 17 international markets, representing 6,300 screens. These include 4 of the Top Ten movie markets: UK, Spain, Australia, and Korea. The Dark Knight Rises already has taken £1 million in advance booking at BFI IMAX, breaking all previous sales records.

The studio will open another 40 markets over the second weekend and include all major markets with the exception of Italy (August) and China where The China Film Group, which sets release dates for U.S. films, wants to pit The Dark Knight Rises against Sony’s The Amazing Spider-Man on August 30th. Warner Bros is threatening not to release Nolan’s Batman finale in China if the date isn’t changed. In total overseas, the film is projected to show on approximately 20,000 foreign screens.

http://www.deadline.com/2012/07/dar...-release-1-at-australia-box-office-with-3-5m/

 

[Poetic Chaos]

It is odd that many of the negative reviews boil down to, "It wasn't as good as TDK." And that makes TDKR bad, because?....

The same way TAS biggest criticism was it told too familiar of a story to the first film. Really annoying when people can't critique a movie on it's own merits.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Okay after seeing the film i could somewhat understand how those few critics who didn't love the film might have missed out on what TDKR was about.

It was truly a love letter to the franchise and to the fans of the franchise. I could see how someone who wasn't that tied into the franchise may not have the same appreciation as the fans of that franchise.

On the note of BO this to me is really a film that benefits from repeat viewings it's very layered in and sort of leaves you wanting to see it again.

 

[Raiden]

I think TDKR will have an amazing opening, and easily beat out Potter 8, but I still don't think it'll beat TA's OW.

 

[CConn]

I'm surprised the final numbers aren't up yet.

 

[redhawk23]

The same way TAS biggest criticism was it told too familiar of a story to the first film. Really annoying when people can't critique a movie on it's own merits.

Except that there is still that context, they do have something to compare it to and a lot of people didn't enjoy it as much.

 

[mclay18]

I'm surprised the final numbers aren't up yet.

WB is still counting up the money.

But... an unexpected monkey wrench has been thrown in... that tragic shooting at a Colorado movie theater showing the TDKR midnight show. I think that could adversely affect the attendance for this weekend.

 

[Shifty]

‘Dark Knight Rises’ Now $68.4M Worldwide: $28M Midnights Shatter ‘Avengers’ Record: $30M Pre-Sales; International $10.4M So Far; But How Will Tragedy Of Colorado Mass Shooting Affect Today’s Batman Opening?
By NIKKI FINKE | Friday July 20, 2012 @ 6:42am PDT

EXCLUSIVE… FRIDAY 6:30 AM, 6TH UPDATE: I’ve just learned that Warner Bros‘ and Legendary Pictures‘ 2D The Dark Knight Rises is “headed north of $28M” for its 3,700 midnight showings of the pic.

EXCLUSIVE… FRIDAY 3 AM, 5TH UPDATE: Fans waited in long lines for hours despite the sweltering heat and the torrential rains in some parts of North America just to attend one of the 3,700 Thursday midnight show locations for Warner Bros’ and Legendary Pictures’ 2D The Dark Knight Rises. Now my sources are tracking this final installment of Chris Nolan’s Batman trilogy to open with a whopping $27+M. “The West Coast is still selling tickets with some theatres adding 3 AM shows,” a Warner Bros exec told me. “This is effing huge!” The Dark Knight Rises’ 2D midnights number shatters the $18.4M midnights generated by 3D Marvel’s The Avengers earlier this summer. With pre-sales of $30M and international grosses from 9 countries totalling $10.4M, that’s already $67.4M worldwide for the mega-pic before it’s even in wide release. Hollywood began emailing me they thought this weekend could generate between $185M-$210M in domestic grosses and possibly set a new weekend record.

But then tragedy struck. Colorado’s mass shooting happened around 12:39 AM today leaving 14 dead and 50 wounded after a lone gunman opened fire in a packed suburban movie theater at the Aurora Town Center where The Dark Knight Rises was showing just after midnight. Now no one in the movie business knows how this terrible event will affect box office today. Despite isolated incidents, nothing on this horrific scale has ever occurred inside film theaters. “Not what you expect to happen when you’re waiting in line to go to the blockbuster film of the summer,” one local TV anchor told viewers.

Moviegoers at first thought the gunshots were part of the film’s action sequences. Police told TV stations the shooting was first reported at 12:39 AM after the gunman “just appeared” from the front of Theater 9. Then police arrived and found the suspect in the rear of the theater. The adult male attired in protective gear had a rifle and two other guns when he was taken into custody, authorities said.

In other parts of the country, first fans lined up for hours ahead of time to see The Dark Knight Rises at the midnight screenings at NYC’s AMC Loews Lincoln Square 13 Theater. Scalpers had been selling those tickets for $65 and as much as $100 for days prior. At the AMC Uptown in Washington, crowds endured torrential rain and lightning but kept standing in line even when the theater didn’t open its doors on time.

Terrible news.

 

[MadVillainy]

About the shooting...I don't really know what to say. It's messed up. My thoughts and prayers go out to the families of the victims

Good for TDKR, but honestly I'm just happy that any 2D movie is breaking a 3D movie's record

 

[Poetic Chaos]

Except that there is still that context, they do have something to compare it to and a lot of people didn't enjoy it as much.

Same as TDKR apparently. Neither are being fully appreciated because of the movies before them.

 

[MadVillainy]

http://www.thewrap.com/movies/artic...ncellation-dark-knight-rises-screenings-48571

WB is considering cancelling TDKR screenings