2013: The Re-Up (box office predictions)

[MrMaooz]

Top 15 worldwide

1. Iron Man 3 $1211,5 million
2. Fast & Furious 6 $704,3 million
3. Man of Steel $619,7 million
4. The Croods $581,9 million
5. Oz The Great and Powerful $491,9 million
6. Despicable Me 2 $477,2 million
7. Monsters University $475,7 million
8. Star Trek Into Darkness $447 million
9. World War Z $424,2 million
10. G.I. Joe: Retaliation $371,9 million
11. The Hangover Part III $347 million
12. The Great Gatsby $326,9 million
13. A Good Day to Die Hard $304,7 million
14. Oblivion $285,6 million
15. Epic $240,5 million

I still can't believe The Croods was that big.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I still can't believe Into Darkness is going to gross less than 500mil, I just knew it was doing at least that this summer.

 

[Liam_H]

The Trek brand just has very little appeal overseas. If it ever expands its going to need do it through many movies.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I think it could have done it if it hadn't underperformed domestically.

 

[MrMaooz]

The Trek brand just has very little appeal overseas. If it ever expands its going to need do it through many movies.

It actually underperformed domestically. It did a lot better overseas this time around. Take a look.

Star Trek

Domestic: $257,730,019 66.8%
+ Foreign: $127,950,427 33.2%
= Worldwide: $385,680,446

Star Trek Into Darkness

Domestic: $224,569,384 50.2%
+ Foreign: $222,500,000 49.8%
= Worldwide: $447,069,384

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

With a well liked original, 4 years of ticket price increases and 3D it really should have done at least 285mil here in the states. Opening 30mil below what it should have really hurt it's total. That's the marketing's fault because the legs were fine, it clearly had mostly solid word of mouth.

 

[MrMaooz]

With a well liked original, 4 years of ticket price increases and 3D it really should have done at least 285mil here in the states. Opening 30mil below predictions really hurt it's total.

A lot of people also say that the 4 year gap was one of the reasons why it underperfomed.

 

[dark_b]

ST 2009 was a more brighter and positive movie. ST2 looked like someone was trying to do Dark Knight with ST and failed.

 

[rayc1971]

also all of the bs with abrams saying the villain was not khan turned some people off it just looked like he could come up with anything new and just remade the wrath of khan like singer did with returns

 

[MrMaooz]

also all of the bs with abrams saying the villain was not khan turned some people off it just looked like he could come up with anything new and just remade the wrath of khan like singer did with returns

Yeah, but this time the GA actually liked this movie.

 

[rayc1971]

Yeah, but this time the GA actually liked this movie.

true actually liked it too I don't see it as disappointing because it made 224mill domestic compared to 09s 257mill domestic it still made more worldwide

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

A lot of people also say that the 4 year gap was one of the reasons why it underperfomed.

I'm one of those people. You don't wait 4 years to make a sequel to your hit film in this box office climate. I was just saying if you were going to foolishly wait 4 years then your box office for your sequel should reflect that 4 year wait. 224mil for Into Darkness is actually is worse than it seems because of the gap and expensive 3D tickets. It didn't bomb or anything but it is without a doubt a disappointment domestically box office wise.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Star Trek 2 is a cautionary tale. Beware the fading novelty factor.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Star Trek 2 is a cautionary tale. Beware the fading novelty factor.

It should have come out last year but the studio wanted to wait for Abrams who dragged his feet like nobody's business. I bet you the next one is coming out sooner than 2017, especially considering this one actually had good word of mouth as well. Paramount got lucky this time.

 

[Marvin]

Star Trek 2 is a cautionary tale. Beware the fading novelty factor.

I'm sure people will be saying the same thing when Avatar's numbers don't surpass the original(though they might given sequel behavior).

Point being, we'll see how it goes.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I'm sure people will be saying the same thing when Avatar's numbers don't surpass the original(though they might given sequel behavior).

Point being, we'll see how it goes.

Sequels always have to deal with fading novelty.

Trek had a steeper hill to climb because the brand new approach was touted, contrasted, analyzed and debated.

By the time the sequel rolled around the non-nerds realized they weren't trekkies.

Avatar has peaked already but it could make half the gross of the original and it would still be one of the biggest all-time movies.

I don't think Fox is worried. It will probably still make Avengers money regardless of declining popularity.

 

[Green Goblin]

ST 2009 was a more brighter and positive movie. ST2 looked like someone was trying to do Dark Knight with ST and failed.

I hate when people always say something is ripping off The Dark Knight. I liked it even more than the first one.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I feel like Star Trek Into Darkness struggled because not because of the gap, but more because no one knew the hell the movie was about. JJ Abrams got cute with the marketing for movie and didn't go full throttle with pushing anything for movie.

They should have went with pushing Cumberbatch as Khan, instead of Abrams being secretive with the worst kept secret. It worked with Super 8, but it backfired with Star Trek. They should have advertised the villain as it has been successful in previous movies (Iron Man 3 to an extent, The Dark Knight), and they should pushed the "Khan is their most dangerous villain" angle in the tv spots and trailers along with shots of [BLACKOUT]London Burning[/BLACKOUT] and that would have garnered way more interest than whatever the hell plan they did have.

I'm just glad it's guaranteed that Abrams won't do the same with Episode VII.

ST 2009 was a more brighter and positive movie. ST2 looked like someone was trying to do Dark Knight with ST and failed.

Is this serious? It really didn't. If anything, Star Trek 2 was more along the lines of the Iron Man movies than TDK.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I wish Brad Bird was doing episode 7 instead of Abrams.

I have a bad feeling the Jedi temple or Han Solo's new ship will look like the inside of an Apple store.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

That Apple store complaint got played out years ago. The Trek redesign was great IMHO.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That Apple store complaint got played out years ago. The Trek redesign was great IMHO.

 

[MrMaooz]

It should have come out last year but the studio wanted to wait for Abrams who dragged his feet like nobody's business. I bet you the next one is coming out sooner than 2017, especially considering this one actually had good word of mouth as well. Paramount got lucky this time.

It'll probably be released in 2016 because that's the 50th anniversary of Star Trek.

 

[MrMaooz]

ST 2009 was a more brighter and positive movie. ST2 looked like someone was trying to do Dark Knight with ST and failed.

Not really.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Not really.

Failed? No. Inspired by TDK? Very much yes.

 

[MrMaooz]

Failed? No. Inspired by TDK? Very much yes.

Whoops, that's what I meant.