6.17 Combat - Discussion Thread (spoilers)

[Syncos]

I dunno.... there is a green light on Kane in a couple of the screen caps of the trailer.



But I would think if something hits him hard enough, it taxes his healing abilities and could even kill him, like Bow Wow killing Raya in Fallout. She had his powers too...

Yah, but Raya didn't have enough time on earth to collect enough solar power to make her nearly as powerful as Clark. You've gotta think of Kryptonians like living solar batteries.

However, Clark's physical makeup is similar enough to human that he would still bleed if something had the force to hurt him. and he heals fast, but it's the kind of thing where if your body was hit hard enough that you spit blood, (for example) your body is going to take time to recover. In Clark's case, it would normally take more than the power of a freight train to cause that kind of impact. He can recover from cuts and scratches quick enough, but the more his body is weakened, the more he's hit, the more his body's healing would be spread thin.

 

[blksuperman2]

Doomsday made him bleed too sans Kryptonite, and I don't think it was just because of his claws.

Did the extended trailer get posted.
http://www.cwtv.com/video?vid=trl-sm

Brutal indeed. I likes

 

[thebigtree95]

moved due to gooberness.

 

[avidreader]

Lex has a great line when he's talking with Lionel in the Luthorcorp office.
He's talking about wishing he had the power to move cars and make people do what he wants. That is an excellent allusion to the future and why he feels the way he does about Superman. His belief that Superman doesn't properly use his power as Lex would if it was his. I wonder if the writers had that in mind or if it just came across that way to me.

Did you mean to post that in the Promise thread, or does something similar happen in this episode?

 

[thebigtree95]

Did you mean to post that in the Promise thread, or does something similar happen in this episode?

I got confused.

 

[Kaboom]

ooooh mamamia papapia im gonna tell the hype police on you!

 

[avidreader]

I got confused.

I can relate to that, I'm always confused.

 

[Serene]

I just watched the DC's. Anyone else willing to bet that nekkid booty flash by the rasslin' chickie won't make the final cut? Gotta say, the girl needs to keep her day job. Her "acting" was marginal to cringe-worthy. I'm pretty sure she wasn't hired for her acting skillz though.

Dayumm... That beating Clark takes is BRUTAL. I was wondering <hoping> if Tom used a double for that. That beast was tossing him around like a rag doll.

 

[KalKai]

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/television/smallville/003938480.cfm

TV Q&A: SMALLVILLE—KANE
The WWE’s resident monster gears up to play a Phantom Zone gladiator and reveals what happened when Tom Welling punched him in the face
By Ben Morse

Posted March 20, 2007 12:45 PM​

Standing 7 feet tall, weighing in at well over 300 pounds and known the world over for acts of incredible sadism, World Wrestling Entertainment superstar Kane already seems like a natural supervillain.

This Thursday night on “Smallville,” he puts that theory to the test.

Wizard checked in with the “Big Red Monster” days before he goes up against a young Clark Kent to find out more about his character Titan, how he jelled with the cast and whether Tom Welling could cut it in the WWE.

WIZARD: How did this opportunity to appear on “Smallville” come about?

KANE: WWE approached me after they had been contacted by “Smallville” to see if I would play this part. That was pretty much it from my end. They described the character I play, Titan, and that was attractive to me because it reminded me a lot of me. [Fellow WWE wrestler] Batista did a “Smallville” episode a while back, so [WWE] has a bit of a relationship with them.

So who is Titan?

KANE: He’s from the Phantom Zone. He’s basically an intergalactic cage fighter and he has a bony spike that grows out of his hand.

Who from the cast did you get to work with?
KANE: I got to work with Tom Welling and also Erica Durance, who plays Lois Lane.

How did you get along with them?

KANE: They wanted to do a lot of the physical stuff. Tom Welling got right in there during the fight scenes. He did some work with a stunt double, but he did a lot of it himself. I had some physical interaction with Erica, and she did all that herself too. I found it refreshing that they wanted to get in there and get thrown around. [Laughs] It was nice not having to stop and then wait for a stunt double. They actually wanted to do more than they were allowed to. [Laughs]

Did you do all your own stunts like you did in your movie “See No Evil”?

KANE: No. We shot on a real tight schedule and one scene was very intricate. I taped “Smackdown!” [for WWE] on Tuesday then flew up to Vancouver and shot [“Smallville”] over the weekend, so a lot of it was already set up before I got there and the stunt people had already worked it all out. Just because of the time factor, it was easier to have them do it.

What were the other differences between working on “See No Evil” and working on “Smallville”?

KANE: [“Smallville”] moved faster than “See No Evil” did. Tempo-wise, it was partway between “See No Evil” and doing a live television show like “Monday Night Raw” or “Smackdown!”

Now of course, on our live television shows, it’s hard to really compare them [to “Smallville”] because we’re almost frenzied and so fast, but “Smallville” moved a lot faster than the movie did. Instead of filming 30 seconds in a day, we were knocking scene after scene out. I don’t want to say the technical people weren’t paying attention to detail, because they were, but on a movie where everything is so detail-oriented, they’re efficient in a different way. On a television show, they’re still paying attention to detail, but they’re moving as fast as they can. Both crews I worked with were extremely professional and extremely competent, just in different ways.
How does Titan fare against Clark Kent?

KANE: Titan holds his own. Actually, Titan takes Clark Kent to the limit. From what they were telling me, he beats Clark Kent up like nobody ever has before. I’d say Titan had a good showing for himself.

How do you think Tom Welling, who plays Clark, would do in the WWE?

KANE: Well, I’ll tell you, during one of our fight scenes, Tom punched me right in the face by accident. Nothing happened, we kept on going. He knew he hit me and apologized, but I told him not to worry about it because I get hit a lot harder than that. I thought it was funny because he gave me a pretty decent shot. I don’t think Tom should try getting in a WWE ring. [Laughs]

Now, last time we spoke, you told me your favorite comic book character was Thor—who wins, Thor against Superman?

KANE: I’ve never been a big Superman fan, and the reason was because nobody could take him unless you get Kryptonite involved. I think Thor could give Superman a heck of a fight, but I don’t think he could do it in the end. I think Superman would take him. Thor’s a little limited; he doesn’t have heat vision and all the things Superman has.

He does have that hammer…

KANE: He does have the hammer. One of the best Thor stories I ever read was Thor versus the Hulk. This was when Thor still turned into Donald Blake if he lost the hammer, and what happened was at the end of the fight he lost the hammer, and Thor knew if he turned back into Donald Blake, Hulk was going to crush him like a bug, so Thor had to pull out a technical submission move and put the Hulk out. Thor might be a better fighter than Superman, like Titan is, and I wouldn’t count him out, but Thor just doesn’t have the powers that Superman does.

What’s coming up for you at WrestleMania 23?
KANE: I’ll be fighting the Great Khali.

Now that guy is huge. He’s bigger than the Big Show, who is 7 feet, 500 pounds, right?

KANE: Yeah, he’s taller than Big Show is.

How do you deal with somebody that big?

KANE: I have to change my strategy completely, because normally I can overpower people, but I’m not going to be able to overpower him. I turn into [165-pound former world champion] Rey Mysterio in this case, and I’ve got to be faster and quicker and be flying around. It will be different.

Would you consider another appearance on “Smallville”?

KANE: It was cool, so if they asked me again, yeah, for sure.

Are you looking to leave wrestling for acting full time?

KANE: No, not yet.

 

[MJZ]

Clark and Chloe discover that Titan, a Phantom Zone escapee, is the star of a secret fight club that broadcasts bloody battles to the death on the Internet. Sensing a story, Lois decides to investigate on her own but is captured and forced to participate in the fights, with Athena, another Phantom Zone fugitive, as her first opponent. Clark reveals his powers so he can fight Titan but is stunned when he is thrown in the ring with Lois instead. Guest starring: Professional Wrestler Kane as Titan and Professional Wrestler Ashley as Athena.

http://www.achannel.ca/home/tvshows_16180.aspx

Looks like I was right from the beginning! HA! t:

 

[MJZ]

I just watched the DC's. Anyone else willing to bet that nekkid booty flash by the rasslin' chickie won't make the final cut? Gotta say, the girl needs to keep her day job. Her "acting" was marginal to cringe-worthy. I'm pretty sure she wasn't hired for her acting skillz though.

We better at least see some bare hip dammit!!

I didn't think her acting was THAT bad. Was better in the Yahoo snips I think.

 

[AgentPat]

http://www.achannel.ca/home/tvshows_16180.aspx

Looks like I was right from the beginning! HA! t:

I dunno, she may indeed be another PZ'er, but Lois takes her out pretty easily in the DCs. Another thing to consider...

Official description:
Clark (Tom Welling) and Chloe (Allison Mack) discover Titan (guest star Kane), a Zoner, is the star of a secret fight club whose bloody battles to the death are broadcast on the internet. Lois (Erica Durance) smells a story and decides to investigate on her own but is captured and forced to participate in the fights with Athena (guest star Ashley) as her first opponent. Clark reveals his powers so he can fight Titan but is stunned when he is thrown in the ring with Lois instead.

Edited version by Achannel, a Canadian website:
Clark and Chloe discover that Titan, a Phantom Zone escapee, is the star of a secret fight club that broadcasts bloody battles to the death on the Internet. Sensing a story, Lois decides to investigate on her own but is captured and forced to participate in the fights, with Athena, another Phantom Zone fugitive, as her first opponent. Clark reveals his powers so he can fight Titan but is stunned when he is thrown in the ring with Lois instead.

Either way, I'm looking forward to the ep!

 

[thebigtree95]

Did you do all your own stunts like you did in your movie “See No Evil”?

KANE: No. We shot on a real tight schedule and one scene was very intricate. I taped “Smackdown!” [for WWE] on Tuesday then flew up to Vancouver and shot [“Smallville”] over the weekend, so a lot of it was already set up before I got there and the stunt people had already worked it all out. Just because of the time factor, it was easier to have them do it.

They had another 7ft white guy available, why'd they bring the wrestler in then?

 

[Brainiac 8]

Kane sounds like a nice guy...and I find it funny he knows so much about Thor.

 

[MJZ]

You know what would be extremely sweet? After Clark gets his ass kicked and is ready to turn the tables they should have his eyes glow red. For whatever reason the live-action versions of Superman never do this and it's always been a head-scratcher to me. Hopefully Smallville will be the first, either in this episode or somewhere down the road...

 

[blksuperman2]

There's gotta be a Hi-res pic of this

 

[thebigtree95]

You know what would be extremely sweet? After Clark gets his ass kicked and is ready to turn the tables they should have his eyes glow red. For whatever reason the live-action versions of Superman never do this and it's always been a head-scratcher to me. Hopefully Smallville will be the first, either in this episode or somewhere down the road...

They do it when he switches to Red Clark.

 

[thebigtree95]

There's gotta be a Hi-res pic of this

This is the closest I've seen.

http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=combat16bb3.jpg

 

[jr24tw]

Well the original of that pic is 2000 pixel. Standart CW size for stills. Urgh I hate that size. Too small for me. But I doubt CW will change anytime soon.

Thank God for WB. *grins* They have the better stuff anyway.

 

[MJZ]

They do it when he switches to Red Clark.

Yeah but that doesn't count.

 

[blksuperman2]

This is the closest I've seen.

http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=combat16bb3.jpg

. Outstanding. Thanks

 

[thebigtree95]

Yeah but that doesn't count.

It does, just not for what you meant.

 

[AgentPat]

There's gotta be a Hi-res pic of this

Here's a re-heeely big version, 1500 pixies...
http://www.paper-flower.com/smallville/season06/episodic/lois15.jpg

More here:
http://www.last-beautiful-girl.com/smallville/photos.php?e6lois

You know what would be extremely sweet? After Clark gets his ass kicked and is ready to turn the tables they should have his eyes glow red...

I think that's basically how he will defeat Titan - heat vision. Kane brought up the heat vision thing twice in that interview (btw... thx for that, Kai!). It also looks like that's exactly what Clark resorts to in the DC, just before the scene cuts off.

And LOL@Welling clocking Kane by accident. Ouch! Good thing he's got a sense of humor about it.

 

[Whiteflag]

And LOL@Welling clocking Kane by accident. Ouch! Good thing he's got a sense of humor about it.

I'm just glad it wasn't the other way round! Tom's beautiful face!

 

[Captivated]

Wait... what? Clark reveals his powers? To who? Um... wouldn't that be a problem?