The Dark Knight Rises 6 Minutes of TDKR footage attached to Mission Impossible 4! - - - Part 12

[kvz5]

Tom Cruise still has it.

 

[craigdbfan]

Man, I love that look Bane gives Pavel after he says "I told them nothing!". Hardy really sold that with his eyes.

Yeah it was like "Have I given you the permission to talk? Shut the hell up!"

All that with just a stare.

 

[SingItWithMeNow]

Bane has a crazy look in his eyes. Like a bond villain on steroids. I love his size too, not massive ... But more like a bulky guy you might get into a fight with a the pub

 

[EliteF50]

I hated MI4. Couldn't wait to leave to talk about the TDKR prologue with my friend. IT WAS SO GOOD!

 

[Mako]

Yeah it was like "Have I given you the permission to talk? Shut the hell up!"

All that with just a stare.

Love that glare!

 

[EliteF50]

Yeah it was like "Have I given you the permission to talk? Shut the hell up!"

All that with just a stare.

Exactly! That was one of my favourite moments from the prologue.

 

[CelticPredator]

I hated MI4. Couldn't wait to leave to talk about the TDKR prologue with my friend. IT WAS SO GOOD!

Blasmaphy.

 

[Anita18]

You really cant use that as an argument.. "this guy has won awards so dont question or criticise him." Not fair. To play devils advocate you also don't know who's posting or taking parts in these conversations.

But to offer a less personal response to your statement.. I am going to present you with a scenario. I myself am in the "business" haha, so here goes:

1.) Studio pays X amount of dollars, and has X amount of time to shoot a scene.

2.) Scene is shot.. On the editing room floor its discovered that there are continuity issues.

3.) Oh crap.. Wally isn't happy but the issues are extremely minor.

4.) It costs millions of dollars to re-shoot said part of scene X.

5.) The scene is left alone.


My point? Movies have errors in them all the time, Nolan is no different. It has nothing to do with style or preference, there's a reason people are hired and paid a lot of money on sets to do "continuity." The reason the errors stay are almost always monetary.

MONEY X TIME X Your average VIEWER not noticing = mistake left alone

If its crucial its changed, its often not.

It's also important to acknowledge there can be mistakes made that aren't always artistic choices. A double cut is an artistic choice, I'm sure Nolan knew he was flipping the truck twice. That's ok.. you can say "stinky choice!" or "great choice!"

What's not ok is when Batman has 2 cop cars behind him... one of them crashes.. and now we cut to a wide shot of 3 cop cars behind him. On a subconscious level you know a mistake was made and that's the kind that it's ok to call a mistake. I seriously doubt Mr. Nolan did that on purpose to screw with viewers.

So in essence, I believe there can be errors in art as well.

Exactly. A double cut is an artistic choice. The continuity stuff is Nolan figuring out what he can or can't compromise per scene without compromising the entire product.

For me, it wasn't the SWAT chase but the Prewitt building scene where the continuity issue is the more egregious. He reused hostage shots, FFS! And I really can't tell whats going on geographically. I'm pretty sure it's actually impossible. But as you said, if the reshoot was going to cost too much and be too much of a bother, Nolan figured the re-used shot wouldn't take the audience out too much and so he left it in. It's probably partly why he's always under budget and on time. Perfection is unattainable, and pursuing it costs money.

HAHAH this made me laugh.

"wait what? helll naw...what about barry, he's a giant dick! besides no one likes him anyway, can't he stay?"

On a more serious note i did find it quite disturbing Bane chose a young guy who can't be older than 25 or so and has his entire life ahead of him, and the guy just STANDS THERE and smiles while that chant starts...very very chilling moment.

Yes, I think that was the point. But real-life extremists also have a history of recruiting children for their violent causes so it certainly isn't unrealistic. In fact, the younger the person, the easier they are to brainwash.

Oh my goodness you may be on to something. Wayne has some great hair and so did unlucky goon #26!!!!

Bane has a hair complex.

Damn, I'd definitely be first to go as well.

 

[CelticPredator]

Edit still sucks. No amount of defending it will fix it. Its a terrible blip on an other wise cool scene.

 

[Anita18]

Tom Cruise still has it.

Tom Cruise will always look great running. it's a very cinematic run.

 

[CaptainSpunk]

Geeze, Whats with all the dumba$$es on youtube putting up videos of their reaction to the trailer or prologue? NOBODY CARES what you think about the trailer/prologue. Makes it hard for someone to find the real videos...

 

[munchie64]

Edit still sucks. No amount of defending it will fix it. Its a terrible blip on an other wise cool scene.

In your opinion of course.

 

[Sharkboy]

Yes, I think that was the point. But real-life extremists also have a history of recruiting children for their violent causes so it certainly isn't unrealistic. In fact, the younger the person, the easier they are to brainwash.:

Yes definitely great point, I loved that moment of pause he has, that realization what Bane actually means. I must be looking too much into the scene, but it actually broke my heart a little.

 

[humbdrumb]

Yeah it was like "Have I given you the permission to talk? Shut the hell up!"

All that with just a stare.

He's not very big muscle wise, but he's very physically imposing. It's all in dem eyes.

 

[munchie64]

Geeze, Whats with all the dumba$$es on youtube putting up videos of their reaction to the trailer or prologue? NOBODY CARES what you think about the trailer/prologue. Makes it hard for someone to find the real videos...

It's no different then people commenting on their thoughts here. If the person posting the video has a fan base, those people sure as hell care. I've been known to look at reaction videos in the past to try and get a general consensus on what people think, so I kinda care.
Also any version of the trailer on youtube will be unlisted so you're not gonna find it by searching.

 

[SingItWithMeNow]

I had trouble actually beleiving what i was see with the whole plane thing, also scottland looks great i wanna go there

 

[CelticPredator]

In your opinion of course.

In the world of editing's opinion.

http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/freshdv/story/seven_rules_for_film_and_video_editors/P0/

Rule Three: Whenever possible, cut in movement.

“Creating a ‘diversion’ of sorts ... is also the principle at work in the action cut.”
The concept here is that during movement of any kind, be it a man sitting down on a park bench or a woman darting her eyes to the left, cut in the space between the beginning and end of the action so as to mask the cut. The goal is seamless, invisible, “magical” editing. This is not possible without the greatest command of timing: timing that comes from an understanding of human perception and eye movement. If you choose to cut too early, the following cut will seem nonsensical and inappropriate. If you choose to cut too late, you may deny the audience key information and try their patience by extending the previous shot. There is a precise moment at which to make the cut: near the dead center of the action. For the man sitting down on the bench, you would most likely want to cut at the point of contact between the man and the bench. For the woman darting her eyes to the left, you may want to cut somewhere in the middle of the motion but not before or after. Mastering this fundamental of editorial timing will not only make your cuts seamless but will also strengthen the scene itself in what it intends to communicate. This, after all, is the purpose of editing: communication

 

[Goku Goes Crazy]

In the world of editing's opinion.

http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/freshdv/story/seven_rules_for_film_and_video_editors/P0/

What edit in the prologue are you referring to?

 

[Boom]

Can I please take this argument out back and shoot it ?

 

[Mako]

What edit in the prologue are you referring to?

When the tail of the plane is blown off.

 

[Sharkboy]

Can I please take this argument out back and shoot it ?

Please do, it's eaten a whole wheel of cheese and pooped in the refrigerator.

 

[CelticPredator]

Here...hold on.


BAD EDITING.

Come here for a minute.

*Grabs BAD EDITING by the hair*

*Points a .45 longshot with laser sighting to it's temple*

Any last words?

Yeah...THE EDITING SU-

BANG.


Alright. We're good.

 

[munchie64]

There now you can stop bringing it up.

 

[Boom]

Cool. I was hoping this argument would've died several posts ago when you ended with "End of story." But whatever. You got the last word. Congratulations.

Good? Good.

 

[CelticPredator]

No. You can stop brining it up. I havent brought it up in like 2 pages. Yet, you felt the need to.