The Dark Knight Rises 6 Minutes of TDKR footage attached to Mission Impossible 4! - - - Part 12

[TinkerTailor]

lol no it doesn't. the point of both prologues are the same. to introduce the villains.

the TDK prologue is basically action exposition. it doesn't advance anything so it isn't in any way complete in and of itself.

Lol but no. TDK's prologue deals with every plot beat in and of itself within the 6 minutes. We could quite easily watch it and have no questions regarding further exposition or query what happens next, and similarly TDK's overall plot wouldn't fall apart if the film started with Batman's take down of Scarecrow.

 

[General Vulcun]

LOL @ Aidan Gillen is terrible actor.

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He is known in the UK for his role as Stuart Alan Jones in the ground-breaking British television series, Queer as Folk, and its sequel, Queer as Folk 2, for which he was nominated for the British Academy Television Award for Best Actor in 2000. American audiences know him for his role as Tommy Carcetti in HBO's television series The Wire.

Gillen was nominated for a Tony Award for his highly acclaimed Broadway role in Harold Pinter's The Caretaker in 2003. He has also been nominated for an Irish Times Theatre Award for his portrayal of Teach in the Dublin Gate Theatre's 2007 production of David Mamet's American Buffalo'.

Gillen appeared alongside the professional wrestler John Cena in the 2009 film 12 Rounds. In July of that year, he appeared in a one-off BBC2 drama Freefall along with Dominic Cooper and Sarah Harding.

In 2011, Gillen played the role of Petyr Baelish in the HBO series Game of Thrones and Barry Weiss in Blitz.

Who do you want? Al Pacino for prologue?

Just someone to give a convincing reading of his lines. Nothing terribly complicated for a decent actor, but he didn't pull it off.

 

[TheLegendEnds]

The the opening of The Dark Knight Rises to me was showing what Bane is capable of. Conjuring up genius plans to get what he wants while exerting ridiculous amount of physical force.

 

[redfirebird2008]

The opening of The Dark Knight to me was showing what The Joker was capable of. Manipulating people into doing his dirty work. I think it showed what we were in store for during the rest of the movie.

Yep, plus it shows us where he got the money to fund all of his activity in the film.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

The opening of The Dark Knight to me was showing what The Joker was capable of. Manipulating people into doing his dirty work. I think it showed what we were in store for during the rest of the movie.

Exactly.

TDKR prologue shows something entirely different. It shows us that the new villain has men so utterly loyal that they are willing to die for him. A far cry from mentally ill disposable fodder.

 

[Travesty]

Lol but no. TDK's prologue deals with every plot beat in and of itself within the 6 minutes. We could quite easily watch it and have no questions regarding further exposition or query what happens next, and similarly TDK's overall plot wouldn't fall apart if the film started with Batman's take down of Scarecrow.

I disagree, without the prologue for TDK, the audience would be confused about The Joker going into a mob meeting about their money. It would be totally random and out of place. TDK prologue was pretty much essential for the entire movie.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Also, one more thing this prologue lacks is the humor. Which is perfectly understandable as one deals with the clown prince of crime while the other is the super serious Bane.

 

[Gianakin_]

I disagree, without the prologue for TDK, the audience would be confused about The Joker going into a mob meeting about their money. It would be totally random and out of place. TDK prologue was pretty much essential for the entire movie.

I think he meant that the TDK prologue was self contained, whereas the TDKR prologue needs the rest of TDKR to make total sense.

 

[TinkerTailor]

I disagree, without the prologue for TDK, the audience would be confused about The Joker going into a mob meeting about their money. It would be totally random and out of place. TDK prologue was pretty much essential for the entire movie.

Gordon and Batman meet for the first time in TDK in a freshly robbed bank vault that establishes the mobs money has been stolen by The Joker.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Also, one more thing this prologue lacks is the humor. Which is perfectly understandable as one deals with the clown prince of crime while the other is the super serious Bane.

Actually, I felt Bane displayed more of a sense of humor than expected.

 

[TinkerTailor]

Actually, I felt Bane displayed more of a sense of humor than expected.

Me too. Very dry.

 

[Travesty]

I think he meant that the TDK prologue was self contained, whereas the TDKR prologue needs the rest of TDKR to make total sense.

I was just commenting on his last point, cause we have no idea if TDKR-prologue is self contained or not..

 

[Sionis]

^ Bane seemed on the verge of chuckling when he said "crashing this plane." Awesome delivery.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Me too. Very dry.

For you.

 

[Travesty]

Gordon and Batman meet for the first time in TDK in a freshly robbed bank vault that establishes the mobs money has been stolen by The Joker.

Good point. I take that back, you're right.

 

[Gianakin_]

I was just commenting on his last point, cause we have no idea if TDKR-prologue is self contained or not..

Oh, gotcha!

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Actually, I felt Bane displayed more of a sense of humor than expected.

Still, the way the goons killed each other off was very funny.

 

[TinkerTailor]

I was just commenting on his last point, cause we have no idea if TDKR-prologue is self contained or not..

Well we know for certain that the plot point of what Bane wants Pavel for will be addressed later in the film, and with all my heart I hope that transfusion is explained in detail.

Basically though I think a few people are saying there's something a bit off or underwhelming about TDKR's prologue in comparison to TDK's. For me this is partially because TDK has it's own internal narrative that is resolved by the end of those 6 minutes whereas TDKR's just seems to raise more questions.

I'll leave it there.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Still, the way the goons killed each other off was very funny.

It was, but I didn't expect to laugh at all with the Bane scene. He has a dry sense of humor, but funny nonetheless.

 

[The Tumbler]

Well we know for certain that the plot point of what Bane wants Pavel for will be addressed later in the film, and with all my heart I hope that transfusion is explained in detail.

The transfusion was done so they think the random dead guy is Dr. Pavel, who is kidnapped. They will find Dr. Pavel's DNA in a FUBAR body and assume it is him. Recall the flight log of the passengers the CIA guy talked about. That's also the reason one of Bane's men had to stay behind and crash with the plane.

 

[Sionis]

The narrative of TDK's prologue versus Tom Hardy's delivery/vertical plane shot of TDKR's prologue is a tough comparison. Both amazing and great openings for sure

 

[Travesty]

Basically though I think a few people are saying there's something a bit off or underwhelming about TDKR's prologue in comparison to TDK's. For me this is partially because TDK has it's own internal narrative that is resolved by the end of those 6 minutes whereas TDKR's just seems to raise more questions.

I'll leave it there.

Maybe, but we don't know for certain, yet.

I actually like TDKR-prologue much more than TDK's.

 

[slimshady247]

Maybe, but we don't know for certain, yet.

I actually like TDKR-prologue much more than TDK's.

Same.

 

[QueenChaos]

I love both TDK and TDKR prologue to the same extent, but for different reasons. They were meant to be this unique from eachother, i'm sure. That's the beauty of it.
The trailer is also very unique from the trailer we got for TDK, they are going with a completely different tone and I must say..it's fantastic.

 

[Sharkboy]

They are quite different, I love them both for different reasons.

Which could be a great indicator of how the final movie will turn out.