The Dark Knight Rises 6 Minutes of TDKR footage attached to Mission Impossible 4! - Part 6

[doobie]

I could understand Bane fine in that football field hold up and thought his voice sounded really passionate and persuasive.

 

[mackblack01]

(which I doubt because of the last bit)

This exactly.

 

[Blue Sugar]

Ha, so glad I will have subtitles! For once living in a non-english speaking country brings something good.

 

[Troy_Parker]

Complaints about his voice, eh? Kinda how people complained about his voice when we got that set vid? :\

If it sounds one way in the prologue, I can guarantee that it will not change in the actual movie. You're lying to yourself if you think it will. Isn't Nolan really anal about this stuff? Why would he show something to the general audience, if it's not the final product?

 

[craigdbfan]

(Starts at 1:02)

"I like trusting that moment and the choices you make because nothing is ever completely perfect....to me that's the shooting period, I trust that" - Christopher Nolan

His philosophy hasn't changed. He'll probably go back and clear some of the background noise and whatnot but I think he wants to leave Hardys performance as intact as possible.

 

[mackblack01]

Ha, so glad I will have subtitles! For once living in a non-english speaking country brings something good.

t:

 

[SuperBatman]

Yeah but another report says that Nolan is aware of the problem and says is going to fix it who to believe.

 

[Dragon_316ca]

Here is Jett's review: http://www.batman-on-film.com/TDKRises_news_Prologue-world-premiere_11-9-11.html

 

[redfirebird2008]

Complaints about his voice, eh? Kinda how people complained about his voice when we got that set vid? :\

No, this is different. People could understand him at the football stadium. They were complaining that he sounded like a tired old man. Apparently it's very difficult to understand exactly what he says in the Prologue.

 

[Troy_Parker]

I see. Hopefully it isn't as bad as people are making it out to be.

 

[EliteF50]

Either you know something others don't or you're making a giant, unsupported assumption. Nothing points to this being anything less than the final version. The Nolan crew knows full well how Bane's voice sounds.... they've known it for months. No doubt, this issue has been raised several times in the edit room. The idea that they'd put forth an incomplete piece, and say....meh....it'll be good enough for now, seems unlikely.

Except for, you know, WB saying the prologue doesn't feature the final sound mix and Nolan saying some lines will be cleaned up later on...

As long as he doesn't sound like an old man, I'm happy.

 

[The_Raganork]

So today we know as much as we did two days ago...haha

 

[craigdbfan]

The ADR mention has been from the reporters and what they assume Nolan meant when he said he'd address the issue in the sound mixing process.

Plus this is from EW:

Would you ever shoot a film only in IMAX?
Oh, it would depend on the film. I don’t like to use ADR sound — I don’t like to record the dialogue afterwards. And so, unless they could make an IMAX camera that was quiet enough to shoot dialogue scenes, I think I’d always want to go to 35mm, or 65mm like we did with Inception.

I don't know what else people need to see for them to figure out Nolan isn't going to replace the dialogue from Bane seen in the prologue. He'll maybe try making it clearer by toning down the background noises and such but I don't think he's touching Bane.

 

[Yurka]

http://www.movieweb.com/news/exclus...lks-about-the-incomprehensible-nature-of-bane

This doesn't sound like something he'd say at all.

 

[Bim]

http://www.movieweb.com/news/exclus...lks-about-the-incomprehensible-nature-of-bane

 

[Doctor Jones]

I don't know why Nolan wouldn't change his philosphy in this case. Bane should be understood. If the audiences can't follow their main villain then it's going to be hard to follow a lot of the plot. Can't he make an exception? The complaints are valid. Plus pretty much all the reporters were in agreement that he was hard to understand. That isn't good.

 

[Fabian]

(Starts at 1:02)



His philosophy hasn't changed. He'll probably go back and clear some of the background noise and whatnot but I think he wants to leave Hardys performance as intact as possible.

Nolan is a perfectionist,i'm sure we will hear Bane speak like it has to be.

 

[redfirebird2008]

I see. Hopefully it isn't as bad as people are making it out to be.

I'm also wondering if the theater's sound wasn't set up properly. You would think they'd have it perfect with Nolan in attendance, but who knows. My local theater does a terrible job of mixing dialogue with surround sound. The dialogue is always way too low in the mix and the surround speakers are cranked too high compared to the front speakers (dialogue). Feels like a ripoff to pay $10 to go see a movie there and then not be able to hear dialogue because of the way the speakers are set up. I originally saw Inception in IMAX and could hear everything, but when I saw it in my regular theater it was completely screwed. The climactic scene where Ariadne yells at Cobb is completely drowned out by the surround sound of the city falling apart.

 

[Fabian]

haha Nolan is like "**** off,i do it my way,just listen!"

He's Quote about the voice

"Probably not. He has the mask on, the apparatus, and he has the accent. It's a tough one. He's incredibly hard to understand. Of course, the whole movie doesn't take place on a plane...This insures that you'll go back and see the movie a couple of times in the theater."

 

[Doctor Jones]

My IMAX is playing MI4 and since it's digital I'm curious to see the difference between digital and film. Hopefully it's not too big a difference.

 

[Kane52630]

I don't know why Nolan wouldn't change his philosphy in this case. Bane should be understood. If the audiences can't follow their main villain then it's going to be hard to follow a lot of the plot. Can't he make an exception? The complaints are valid. Plus pretty much all the reporters were in agreement that he was hard to understand. That isn't good.

Exactly, same can be said for Batman in TDK. I know you didn't have trouble understanding Bale as Batman but I did.

 

[The_Raganork]

It wasn't the final mix...with planes flying, gunfire, screaming, wind noise a thick accent and the muzzled mask its understandable that it would be hard to hear Bane.

I'm sure it'll be fixed as best it can WITHOUT having to have Hardy recreate his emotions in ADR.

 

[kvz5]

LOL Nolan's trolling us with these conflicting answers.

So... is this Bane scene before the 8 year gap?

 

[Sith Scotti]

If he is hard to understand there is a reason for it . A creative choice , Like Frankenstein's monster ...... People need to focus on the positive .... Almost everyone said it is better than the bank heist.

 

[Fabian]

Batman's voice in TDK was horrible BTW.

In BB i could deal with it and liked it,but TDK it went over the top.

It was like Batman had smoken to much sigaretes and had throat cancer.