8.05 - Committed - Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[Prison Mike]

VERY good review Trip! It was a good read.

 

[triplet]

Actually Trip, that is one thing you mentioned in your review that I enjoyed..about the dungeon scene. I thought it was a testement to Allison Mack's acting, since she completely sold me on her relationship with Jimmy. I didn't mind it before, but that episode made it so now I am actually rooting for them.

Yeah, I was sorta against the relationship by the end of last season, it had become so forced...

Allison saved it for me in this episode.

I don't know if I buy the Brainiac thing...that seems like they are grasping a bit.

Any port in a storm, I guess...

*shrug*

Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Those people will forever believe the writers/producers are going to pen some sort of bizarre swap at the end of the show. It's ridiculous; I know. The writers have pulled out every stop they could (short of killing Chloe) to show that Clark's destiny - among many other things - is to be with Lois. On boards like TWoP, the "Chlois Theory" still pervades almost every thread to the point of many posters hating Lois with a passion. The more hints (anvils) the writers drop, the more people dig in their heals and say hell no, we won't go. LOL It's rather humorous and sad at the same time.

You know, that's one thing I hate about writing for kryptonsite. I gotta pick my words very carefully...

I didn't really change my review in any way that was substantial, but in my original draft I talked about the differences between Lois' and Chloe's scenes with their tormentor...

I decided to err on the side of caution and I didn't include that section. It was just about the way the two women acted differently to the same dilemma....

Chloe was more frantic, Lois was snarky and defiant.... I thought it was a good way to see just how different they are.

Figured it might not be good to bring anything like that up, I knew talking about the affirmation of Chloe's love for Jimmy was going to be bad enough.

*shrug*

haha...Chloisers.

It's one of the reasons I like chatting with the people here other than other sites, since most of those crazies don't come here.

QFT!

A side from putting up giant promotion boards that say "Chloe will never be with Clark", not much

LOL!

VERY good review Trip! It was a good read.

Thanks!

 

[CLARKY]

When I first read what the plot was about, I was "oh no, not a generic story again". But in fact, this episode was excellent, really excellent. I felt that the story with the killer was, for once, not the center of the episode, and that the center was Lois&Clark. THAT was pretty clever and pretty good. I didn't care much about Jimmy, but since 2 or 3 episode he seems to be well written or at least in this episode. I have to admit nevertheless, that Chloe make it (the relationship) much more interesting and appealing to me. I think she's great, and I thought it was a clever surprise to make her admit that she was in love with Jimmy and with Clark anymore. Wow! At last ! that was good.
Anyway, the best thing in this episode were all the interactions between Lois & Clark. The beginning was very good. The middle was great. And the end was ...... awesomely excellent. I especially like the "Statistically speaking, this is the safest way to travel".
I still can't believe this show presented a such excellent version of L & C !!! I knew it was pretty good ... but this is excellent.

 

[Brainiac 8]

Well said CLARKY.

To me so far, this is the best episode of the season, followed closely by Prey.

 

[Migu-EL]

Yeah u can't go wrong with those two episodes so far in the season.

 

[triplet]

Well said CLARKY.

To me so far, this is the best episode of the season, followed closely by Prey.

You liked Prey that much?



I liked Prey, but it wasn't the home run that Committed was... maybe a stand up double....

 

[Brainiac 8]

Yea, I thought the writing and direction was fantastic in "Prey." There was a few hiccups, but they made Davis very sympethetic, and set him up wonderfully as the tragic good man turned murderous monster.

Truth be told though four out of five of the episodes have been almost as good as one another, but "Committed" took the other ones by a small margin due to my love of the Lois & Clark romance.

 

[triplet]

Yea, I thought the writing and direction was fantastic in "Prey." There was a few hiccups, but they made Davis very sympethetic, and set him up wonderfully as the tragic good man turned murderous monster.

Truth be told though four out of five of the episodes have been almost as good as one another, but "Committed" took the other ones by a small margin due to my love of the Lois & Clark romance.

I didn't like the writing much in Prey, and I thought that the direction sorta sucked.

*shrug*

I'll explain more in my review, once it gets posted that is...



I should really stop writing novels as reviews! I looked at a few reviews from last year and they were all nice and short, only like 3 pages.

Committed was 7, I think Prey will be about as long if not longer...

It's why they're taking longer than they used to for me to get them done. Writing some 4k or so words each week is time consuming.

*sigh*

 

[Brainiac 8]

Heh...it's one of the reasons I don't write them much anymore, I just don't have the time. Most of my reviews ended up being about six pages, and it took me forever. I have too much on my plate to keep up that pace...and if I try to shorten the review, it feels like I have left a bunch of stuff out. It's lose/lose.

Can't wait to read yours though.

I look forward to seeing what your thoughts are, since I thought the episode was rather fantastic.

 

[Migu-EL]

My review is up:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/committedreview.htm

Just read your review Trip, very nice. But I gotta say, the reason I think Tess and Ollie's scenes seemed boring had more to do with the fact that it was up against Clark and Lois(which was way more interesting) than it had to do with the quality of writing. Just my opinion.

 

[triplet]

Just read your review Trip, very nice. But I gotta say, the reason I think Tess and Ollie's scenes seemed boring had more to do with the fact that it was up against Clark and Lois(which was way more interesting) than it had to do with the quality of writing. Just my opinion.

Well, the writing wasn't so bad as maybe the acting (Justin)...

I'm not as fond of him as I used to be, he's probably reached his depth.

Cute, charming, great body, but probably not the best actor ever.

 

[KBX]

You liked Prey that much?



I liked Prey, but it wasn't the home run that Committed was... maybe a stand up double....

I say Prey was a stand up double, runner moving to 3rd on CF error.

Its funny I thought committed would be the filler episode, the Subterranean or Hero of this season... boy was I wrong.

 

[mellyM]

I enjoyed Prey more than Committed, I don't know why really, except Clark was being much more proactive and I thought the story was more interesting, and there was too much of the annoying Chimmy in Committed, but i did enjoy the ep

 

[triplet]

I say Prey was a stand up double, runner moving to 3rd on CF error.

Its funny I thought committed would be the filler episode, the Subterranean or Hero of this season... boy was I wrong.

I was very pleasantly surprised by this episode.

It was much better than I had expected it would be, but then again I shouldn't be surprised.

Director Glen Winter can do almost no wrong, and Tom hit it out of the park!

:heart:

 

[B]

I enjoyed Prey more than Committed, I don't know why really, except Clark was being much more proactive and I thought the story was more interesting, and there was too much of the annoying Chimmy in Committed, but i did enjoy the ep

LOL

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks theres too much of "Chimmy"

Really liked this episode myself, probably my favourate so far of the season

 

[Migu-EL]

Well, the writing wasn't so bad as maybe the acting (Justin)...

I'm not as fond of him as I used to be, he's probably reached his depth.

Cute, charming, great body, but probably not the best actor ever.

He's not the strongest actor but at the same time he's far from horrible. He does a good job as Ollie, but I agree with you that he's probably reached his depth.

 

[Brainiac 8]

LOL

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks theres too much of "Chimmy"

Really liked this episode myself, probably my favourate so far of the season

That word scares me.

"Why are you seeing the doctor?"

"You know, I met this girl, one thing led to another, and BAM! I'm now infected with Chimmy."

He's not the strongest actor but at the same time he's far from horrible. He does a good job as Ollie, but I agree with you that he's probably reached his depth.

See, I find Justin plays a fantastic Oliver Queen. He isn't the strongest actor on the show, but I always seem to enjoy his performance nonetheless. Now if we could get him to not take his shirt off all the time.

 

[triplet]

He's not the strongest actor but at the same time he's far from horrible. He does a good job as Ollie, but I agree with you that he's probably reached his depth.

I think that's the problem. He's reached his depth and there is nothing else for him to show us...

Too bad.

He's charming and does do well with what he's good at, but he just doesn't have any range.

See, I find Justin plays a fantastic Oliver Queen. He isn't the strongest actor on the show, but I always seem to enjoy his performance nonetheless. Now if we could get him to not take his shirt off all the time.

I don't mind the shirtlessness, in and of itself, but maybe if they could maybe not make the stories quite so obviously designed to allow Justin to show off as much skin as possible, it'd be better.

 

[LadyVader]

I think Hartley has range. I thought it was very touching how he was crouching over Clark after he had shot him. His eyes even teared up.

Awwwwwww!

 

[Brainiac 8]

I think Hartley has range. I thought it was very touching how he was crouching over Clark after he had shot him. His eyes even teared up.

Awwwwwww!

Actually I thought that was a fantastic scene for Justin.

 

[LadyVader]

Me too! I wasn't being sarcastic or anything.

 

[RakuMon]

That word scares me.

"Why are you seeing the doctor?"

"You know, I met this girl, one thing led to another, and BAM! I'm now infected with Chimmy."

Agreed. That's why it's a good thing the other mash-up name didn't stick: "Chlimmy." That sounds even more like an STD!!

 

[Brainiac 8]

Agreed. That's why it's a good thing the other mash-up name didn't stick: "Chlimmy." That sounds even more like an STD!!

haha, exactly.

 

[Migu-EL]

That word scares me.

See, I find Justin plays a fantastic Oliver Queen. He isn't the strongest actor on the show, but I always seem to enjoy his performance nonetheless. Now if we could get him to not take his shirt off all the time.

I agree on both points, Justin's plays a fantastic Oliver Queen and that he needs to keep his shirt on.

 

[triplet]

I think Hartley has range. I thought it was very touching how he was crouching over Clark after he had shot him. His eyes even teared up.

Awwwwwww!

I actually thought he did a great job in Odyssey, which makes Toxic the more perplexing.

Maybe he's not happy being so objectified....

*shrug*