The Dark Knight Rises 8 Years Later...

[Gianakin_]

This certainly answers The Joker Dilemma.
We can assume that Joker has escaped a half-dozen times, Batman fought him, put him back in Akham. Joker is back in Arkham for the fifth time.
Hell, there's a whole story there that can be hinted at in the movie, and Joker doesn't even need to be seen.

Excellent thought.

Also, I'm assuming that Bane breaks Batman early on, and Bruce is in partial retirement during those eight years.
It is so obvious now that Bruce gets his back broken. 8 years to recover is perfectly realistic and reasonable. We're seeing a back-breaking.

Hmmm, so early, huh? But what would Bane have been doing during those 8 years?

 

[redfirebird2008]

Oldman ain't got time to age.

He IS Dracula after all.

 

[Wedge A.]

What I failed to mention in my previous post, is how I like it because it's daring. I don't think any superhero franchise has attempted something like this before.

 

[Lord]

Seems like they are going to use a cross of Knightfall, The Dark Knight Returns, No Man's Land and possibly even Batman: R.I.P. ( doesn't mean he will die, but the movie may have a bit of the spirit of that story)

 

[kvz5]

I like the idea a lot. I'm hopeful that the storytelling will be as great as I'm imagining it to be.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

This certainly answers The Joker Dilemma.
We can assume that Joker has escaped a half-dozen times, Batman fought him, put him back in Akham. Joker is back in Arkham for the fifth time.
Hell, there's a whole story there that can be hinted at in the movie, and Joker doesn't even need to be seen.

Also, I'm assuming that Bane breaks Batman early on, and Bruce is in partial retirement during those eight years.
It is so obvious now that Bruce gets his back broken. 8 years to recover is perfectly realistic and reasonable. We're seeing a back-breaking.

I think this will be a combination of Knightfall and The Dark Knight Returns.

Or the backbreaking has nothing to do with the time skip. And Bruce has been fighting freaks for all those years.

 

[DACrowe]

Didn't see that coming. It's kind of shocking, because I don't know how long the status quo for Batman could be he's going it alone with no allies in GCPD, Gordon chases him and he has no personal life either. Kind of a long time. Four years, the actual time between films, may have worked better.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Seems like they are going to use a cross of Knightfall, The Dark Knight Returns, No Man's Land and possibly even Batman: R.I.P. ( doesn't mean he will die, but the movie may have a bit of the spirit of that story)

That's some damn good source material, eh?

 

[Rocketman]

Excellent thought.

Hmmm, so early, huh? But what would Bane have been doing during those 8 years?

During those 8 years while Bruce is gone, Gotham totally belongs to Bane now.

Bruce goes to India, Lazarus Pit, recooperates, comes back to Gotham, takes Gotham back. Meanwhile in India, Bruce learns about Bane, flashbacks of Ra's and Talia. It all falls together so smoothly.

8 years seems so obvious now. I'm surprised we never thought of it. It's perfect.

 

[Steyin]

I'm not thrilled with it.

 

[Rocketman]

Or the backbreaking has nothing to do with the time skip. And Bruce has been fighting freaks for all those years.

That can't be. Why wouldn't he have "risen" already then?
He's being constantly hunted by cops. There's no way that he's the Batman we know from the comics.

I'm putting my money on Batman being absent for 8 years.
Everyone in Gotham has forgotten about him.
"Batman" is a spook story that people make fun of.
THEN, 8 years later, he actually comes back.
THEN people know that he's real, and he's pissed, and he's taking his city back.

 

[Gianakin_]

During those 8 years while Bruce is gone, Gotham totally belongs to Bane now.

Bruce goes to India, Lazarus Pit, recooperates, comes back to Gotham, takes Gotham back. Meanwhile in India, Bruce learns about Bane, flashbacks of Ra's and Talia. It all falls together so smoothly.

8 years seems so obvious now. I'm surprised we never thought of it. It's perfect.

But if there's a Lazarus Pit involved, why the 8 years? And Bane is the ruler of Gotham for 8 years? Would the US government allow that? No, I don't think I agree with this scenario.

 

[Lord]

That can't be. Why wouldn't he have "risen" already then?
He's being constantly hunted by cops. There's no way that he's the Batman we know from the comics.

I'm putting my money on Batman being absent for 8 years.
Everyone in Gotham has forgotten about him.
"Batman" is a spook story that people make fun of.
THEN, 8 years later, he actually comes back.
THEN people know that he's real, and he's pissed, and he's taking his city back.

That won't hapen, first, in Batman Begins he was filmed with a FREAKING THANK going on the street, and there's also the fact that Nolan said that he could now go into daylight because everybody feared him already and so he didn't need to hide in the shadows.

Now, what i don't remember is anything saying he was going to no longer be Batman by the begining of TDKR, from what i see, he has been active for more than 8 years

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

The bad news is that the 8 year gap increases the chances that this story will involve Batman's retirement or death.

 

[The Joker]

I was initially in favor of their being a short time frame between TDK and TDKR. I wanted to see the raw repercussions of what happen in TDK on Batman and Gotham City (which is are still likely to see in flashback if that chase scene they filmed between Batman on his BatPod and the hordes of Cops in the snow free streets is any indication).

But putting a big time frame between the two, it shows how much of a weight the events of the previous movie have had. Bruce is apparently in a bad state. Alone, hurting and still being hunted. I'd say Gotham has cleaned itself up thanks to the legacy of Dent and all the good work he did.

 

[Papa G]

I used to post here back in '03-'04, then joined the Marines, but now I'm out and happy to be back on SHH. In a synopsis of the plot on wikipedia(if that holds any water), it says he's been hunted and has to heal old wounds. I think the 8 year device is smart just because Batman's probably been at least somewhat active despite being viewed publicly as a vigilante/danger, and he's probably lost emotionally and burned out. Then, he really has to get it together to fight Bane and "rise." Bruce Wayne could have also used those 8 years to improve on his company and public image a bit as well.

 

[cryptic name]

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Dark-Knight-Rises-Set-8-Years-Dark-Knight-27993.html



Really curious to see what the Bat faithful feel about this.

I think this is a genius move, personally this such a unique perspective then what were are usually accustomed to seeing with superhero films.

Nolan is an absolute mastermind when it comes to film-making and it probably took some serious guts to have this take place with that much of a time gap.

Are you excited with this time jump?
OR
do you feel 8 years will skip over so much in Gotham's lore?

I think it's a genius idea. It almost seems like they're doing a loose adaptation of The Dark Knight Returns. I've said it before and I'll say it again; this time next year when I refer to "the trilogy" it won't be Wars or Rings.

 

[TinkerTailor]

He's had 8 years to grieve for Rachel too. I was always a bit uncomfortable with the idea that Bruce would fall for either Miranda or Selina so quickly after Rachel's death if TDKR followed directly from TDK.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Sounds like an odd decision. But they must have put some thought behind it.

How much time was there between Begins and the Dark Knight? Seemed like a year or two at most.

 

[Nevincer]

But putting a big time frame between the two, it shows how much of a weight the events of the previous movie have had. Bruce is apparently in a bad state. Alone, hurting and still being hunted. I'd say Gotham has cleaned itself up thanks to the legacy of Dent and all the good work he did.

Agreed. With this time skip, it makes Bruce/Gordon's efforts not immediately rendered obsolete with the existence of this film. What they fabricated at the end of TDK was truly a winning move against the Joker that left years of (almost) harmony in it's wake. I like that. Of course it will be exposed eventually, but this makes the ending not feel all for nothing in the scheme of the trilogy.

 

[Wedge A.]

Sounds like an odd decision. But they must have put some thought behind it.

How much time was there between Begins and the Dark Knight? Seemed like a year or two at most.

Six months.

 

[Doc Samson]

A lot of things come to mind, exciting things. I wonder if Bruce was active during these 8 years, or if he's already retired by the beginning of TDKR, which once again leads me to believe The Dark Knight Returns would be an influence, I already think the Mutant Leader & Bane might have a thing or two in common.

Which brings me to the second point, if he indeed was retired the whole 8 years, will they play up the fact that he's rusty, or slower? Facing someone like Bane, even in his youth, would be a tall order. Maybe he's backing up in the trailer not only because Bane is an unstoppable machine, but because he himself isn't what he used to be.

I also hope Gordon starts graying, transforming into that classic commissioner we all know and love.

This also, as I said in the appropriate thread, leads me to believe even further that this Batman will end with this movie, whether by death, retirement, whatever. In the Nolan timeline, he's about 40 years old now, that's a career almost a decade long. For someone who was looking to inspire the people, that's plenty of time to do it, or, realize that it can never be done

 

[El Payaso]

LOVE the idea.

That way the events in TDK have the time to make a deep mark in the characters. And it can be easily felt as 'the end' of the story and not just the immediately next step. And it certainly sounds like Miller's TDKR and I like it even more bc of that.

 

[Poeman]

If Bane took over Gotham, I am sure Joker would have escaped or been rescued...

Ah if only Heath was around

 

[jmc]

Seriously, who cares?