Actors You Just Can't Stand.

[Ace of Knaves]

Well yea Figs Pitt isn't the be all and end all of actors. But it just annoys me when people think guys like him or Clooney are where they are today JUST because they are sex symbols or whatever. Because that is just totally not true.

And yea Octoberist Clooney is definitely on a roll. One of my favourite actors.

 

[CelticPredator]

Clooney's the ****ing man. As is Pitt. Pitt is awesome sauce.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Clooney in Dusk till Dawn is all kinds of bad ass. He was like, bad ass personified.

 

[CelticPredator]

Indeed. I dont get how someone can watch that movie, and still hate him.

Yes, I still want a Gecko Brothers movie. I dont care if they're all old now.

 

[Jolly Rolly]

Last time I checked Wilmer has an American accent. Are you confusing him with the character that he played on That 70's Show, Fez?

He uses his Venezuelen regular voice on MTV's Yo Mamma but I can't stand his stupid comments with his accent, and you just know he only got that show because of his connection with Ashton Kutcher.

 

[katie_girl09]

Point out the part of my post where I said that specifically.

Oh, that's right. You can't because I didn't say that.

And uh, you'll notice I highlighted Bill Hader too.

Uhm... Okayyyyyy... I am not familiar with Bill Hader's (who?) work, so I can't even speak for him. Hence my not mentioning him.

And notice how I never said that YOU said that? I was just making the observation that contrary to the popular opinion of him on these boards, not everyone is going to like Christian Bale.

Why are you always so eager to attack/insult people?

 

[CelticPredator]

Because it's fun.....sorta.

 

[Mister H.]

I felt the need to comment because Pitt and Clooney are not crap actors.

You are falling into the trap of being blinded to their talents just because they are media darlings or sex symbols. As many people who don't have a clue about acting do.

So Pitt's performances in Twelve Monkeys, Snatch, Interview with the Vampire, Legends of the Fall, Fight Club, Babel, Seven Years in Tibet, The Assassination of Jesse James are crap yea? Errr...no. That isn't opinion.

Hell his performance in Twelve Monkeys ALONE elevates him above most so called "A-List" actors out there.

Comical. Let me get this straight. I think Brad Pitt and Nic Cage are horrible actors. You disagree. And I'm the one who doesn't "have a clue about acting"?

You just rambled off a list of films that Pitt has starred in, none of which had an impressive performance, and then go on to say that it "isn't opinion"? My opinion is that his performances in Snatch and 12 Monkeys are two of the corniest and embarassing performances I've ever seen. Those other roles would be mediocre at best, with his turn in The Assassination Of Jesse James being the only performance I've ever seen from him that I would consider solid.

Again, there is no argument to be had here. You won't change my opinion, nor will you convince me that I'm not worthy of critiquing an actor. Despite your insistence that this isn't a matter of opinion, it is, in fact, a matter of opinion. When I think of fine actors I think of men like Robert Duvall, Marlon Brando, Jack Nicholson, Anthony Hopkins, Gary Oldman--people like that. Brad Pitt and Nic Cage are nobodys in my book.

Keep trying though.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

So his performance in Snatch was corny and crap? Well coming from someone who has experience with pikeys let me tell you his voice, mannerisms and all round demeanour were SPOT ON for a Irish pikey.

And how was his performance in 12 monkeys corny? He was playing a lunatic, he's gonna be chomping on some scenery.

And I didn't say Pitt was on the levels of those guys, I'm saying he isn't completely crap like you seem to think. I'm saying that if all he was is a sex symbol, he would of faded away after a few years like all the other sex symbols with no talent. But he hasn't, he's been making big films for like, two decades. Looks alone won't keep you in the industry and in big films for that long. That's fact, not opinion.

I bet you haven't even seen Babel or Seven Years in Tibet. He was UNIVERSALLY praised for those performances.

I'm not trying to change your opinion. I just find it stupid when people just think of guys like Pitt and Clooney as sex symbols or whatever. When if that's all they were they wouldn't be in big films and be in the industry for 20 years.

 

[Mister H.]

Actually this is a forum for discussion. That's why these threads are started, to start conversations and debates and disagreements(as well as agreements of course).

No one was making fun of your opinions, Ace just was trying to start a conversation about those actors and more specifically, why you picked them. If you don't like to actually discuss things(like an adult)and your just posting in here to up your post count...what a waste.


Oh yeah, Ace, I agree. Brad Pitt is one of those actors who surpassed the good looks factor and has backed it up with actual talent. I don't think he's this end all be all of actors but he is pretty damn good.

Well, he put words in my mouth, then rolled his eyes at me. So, in essence, he was making fun of my opinion. The title of the thread is "Actors You Just Can't Stand". Nothing to discuss. I listed actors I can't stand. Nobody is going to convince me that I do like Cage, Pitt, or Clooney, therefore I don't feel the need to "discuss things (like an adult)".

As far as the post count...wow. You're really grasping for straws there. I couldn't care less. What is my post count anyway? Less than 200? How often do you run across one of my posts? I have much more important things in my life to worry about than a god damn post count on a message board.

 

[Mister H.]

So his performance in Snatch was corny and crap? Well coming from someone who has experience with pikeys let me tell you his voice, mannerisms and all round demeanour were SPOT ON for a Irish pikey.

And how was his performance in 12 monkeys corny? He was playing a lunatic, he's gonna be chomping on some scenery.

And I didn't say Pitt was on the levels of those guys, I'm saying he isn't completely crap like you seem to think. I'm saying that if all he was is a sex symbol, he would of faded away after a few years like all the other sex symbols with no talent. But he hasn't, he's been making big films for like, two decades. Looks alone won't keep you in the industry and in big films for that long. That's fact, not opinion.

I bet you haven't even seen Babel or Seven Years in Tibet. He was UNIVERSALLY praised for those performances.

Ha, ha, ha. Yeah, I've seen both. I own Babel. I loved the film. I think Brad Pitt and Cate Blanchette were hired solely to help at the box office though, and their performances have nothing to do with my enjoyment of the film. Any no-name actor could have turned in those performances. They didn't hurt the film, but they didn't make the film any better.

And as far as someone being "UNIVERSALLY praised"--not true. Because you won't hear any praise from me.

What's with your speaking in definitive terms and making uninformed assumptions? I don't have "a clue about acting", I've never seen this movie or that movie. I don't want this to turn into some personal feud, but you're rubbing me the wrong way. All I did was list three actors I don't like. I didn't bash them or make fun of them or poke fun at their fans. But I'm starting to get a little irritated. I never thought I'd see the day when I had defend my position that Nic Cage and Brad Pitt weren't good actors...

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Well I haven't said anything about Cage. He has definitely let himself slide, although I thought he was good in Lord of War, Adaptation and Matchstick Men of his recent movies.

But I will defend Pitt. And a lot of other people will too. I didn't mean to snap at you, but like I said, I just think it's stupid when people are blinded by the whole "celebrity/sex symbol" thing.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Well I haven't said anything about Cage. He has definitely let himself slide, although I thought he was good in Lord of War, Adaptation and Matchstick Men of his recent movies.

But I will defend Pitt. And a lot of other people will too. I didn't mean to snap at you, but like I said, I just think it's stupid when people are blinded by the whole "celebrity/sex symbol" thing.

I would agree on Pitt. Being a studying actor myself, I find Pitt to be a very good actor. He does a very good job at creating individual characters, each with their own movements, way of talking, body mannerisms, ect.

His ability to take on other roles is very impressive.

 

[Figs]

Well, he put words in my mouth, then rolled his eyes at me. So, in essence, he was making fun of my opinion. The title of the thread is "Actors You Just Can't Stand". Nothing to discuss. I listed actors I can't stand. Nobody is going to convince me that I do like Cage, Pitt, or Clooney, therefore I don't feel the need to "discuss things (like an adult)".

See, the point of a thread like this isn't just to list who you like or don't like then leave it at that. That's boring and misses the point. It's an opportunity for discussion on other people's opinions. If not it would be a boring list of postings that just had some actor's names listed and the thread would be kind of pointless. I personally wouldn't want to go into a thread where all I could do was read people listing off actors and not giving reasons why, and not being allowed to discuss why or why not.

As far as the post count...wow. You're really grasping for straws there. I couldn't care less. What is my post count anyway? Less than 200? How often do you run across one of my posts? I have much more important things in my life to worry about than a god damn post count on a message board.

I'm not grasping for straws at all since I wasn't saying you were only posting to up your post count. I had simply asked because as I stated in bold it is kind of pointless to post in a thread like this if you aren't in it for discussion(which again, would make the thread pointless as well).

 

[Figs]

I would agree on Pitt. Being a studying actor myself, I find Pitt to be a very good actor. He does a very good job at creating individual characters, each with their own movements, way of talking, body mannerisms, ect.

His ability to take on other roles is very impressive.

I also found him to be pretty good in Meet Joe Black.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Well, he put words in my mouth, then rolled his eyes at me. So, in essence, he was making fun of my opinion. The title of the thread is "Actors You Just Can't Stand". Nothing to discuss. I listed actors I can't stand. Nobody is going to convince me that I do like Cage, Pitt, or Clooney, therefore I don't feel the need to "discuss things (like an adult)".

As far as the post count...wow. You're really grasping for straws there. I couldn't care less. What is my post count anyway? Less than 200? How often do you run across one of my posts? I have much more important things in my life to worry about than a god damn post count on a message board.

Okay, damn, you know, Figs and Ace weren't jumping on you. Having a discussion that I wholeheartedly agree with Ace and it is fact. He isn't a crap actor. A crap actor is in the leagues of those actors you see on the Disney channel or Ludicris. Brad Pitt has managed to like Ace said, rise above his sex symbol image (and he doesn't indulge in it at all) he is just an actor finding amazing work that's lasted for this long. If he was "Crap" llike you said, he wouldn't be working anymore.

And you just pulled a dick move with the post count thing. That's when you can tell the other person is acting immature and can't have a nice discussion the way Ace and Figs were trying to explain to you.

You can have your opinion, but stating he is a crap actor is just wrong. He is in fact a very good actor.

 

[gwynplaine]

I didn't intend it as a "hate" thread at all, more like a relaxed environment to express oneself in a free, fun and civil manner. To each their own and I was just interested in knowing more about my fellow Hypers' opinion and taste, and why certain actors can rub them the wrong way.

Once again, not a hate thread but like Figs said a place to discuss taste and opinion. Like for instance, i think that what Ace said about certain actors transcending their "pretty boy" status is very interesting and a good starting point for an interesting and civil exchange. Actors like Brad Pitt or Johnny Depp who throughout smart choices and hard work have managed to take it to another level. Heath Ledger was like that too imo. Orlando bloom, not so much, but once again to each their own, and anything can happen.

 

[[A]]

*steps into the talking a little late* Clooney is so much better than Pitt.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I like both the same.

Until I saw From Dusk Till Dawn I learned that Clooney is God's pimp sent down from heaven.

 

[gwynplaine]

I don't really like Liev Schreiber (yes, even as Sabretooth, better than Tyler Mane of course but I still didn't buy it, granted it is a very tough part to cast).

 

[The FallenAngel]

I despise Wes Bentley.

 

[Jolly Rolly]

I despise Wes Bentley.

Casting directors must feel the same since I haven't seen him in anything since Ghost Rider.

 

[gwynplaine]

Casting directors must feel the same since I haven't seen him in anything since Ghost Rider.

Lol. Good point.

 

[Etienne]

If he was "Crap" llike you said, he wouldn't be working anymore.

Not necessarily. There are quite a few "crap" actors that still get work.

*steps into the talking a little late* Clooney is so much better than Pitt.

I'll agree with this. I find Clooney more likable than Pitt, the charisma just seems to come more naturally to him.

 

[Mister H.]

Okay, damn, you know, Figs and Ace weren't jumping on you. Having a discussion that I wholeheartedly agree with Ace and it is fact. He isn't a crap actor. A crap actor is in the leagues of those actors you see on the Disney channel or Ludicris. Brad Pitt has managed to like Ace said, rise above his sex symbol image (and he doesn't indulge in it at all) he is just an actor finding amazing work that's lasted for this long. If he was "Crap" llike you said, he wouldn't be working anymore.

And you just pulled a dick move with the post count thing. That's when you can tell the other person is acting immature and can't have a nice discussion the way Ace and Figs were trying to explain to you.

You can have your opinion, but stating he is a crap actor is just wrong. He is in fact a very good actor.

Well, I didn't bring up the post count, someone else did. I was just expressing how little that means to me. Don't know how that's a "dick move." I thought the "dick move" was someone implying that I was only posting in this thread to up my post count.

Again, I'm a little confused as to why I'm the one being painted as immature or childish here, as I'm not the one who was rolling my eyes at others' opinions or questioning what they may/may not know about acting.

I will agree that Brad Pitt may try to disappear into roles and make an obvious attempt to develop new and interesting characters. But, IMO, he fails. It looks like an actor trying to inhabit a character, whereas someone like, say, Gary Oldman just becomes the character.

One more thing, then I'll step away from this thread. I don't have a problem with actors being "sex symbols" and I don't let that influence my opinion of their talent. That's been kind of hurled in my direction a few times in this thread, and its not right. I referred to him as a sex symbol because I don't consider him a good actor, and thats kind of how I see his reputation. Marlon Brando, Johnny Depp, and Heath Ledger were all considered sex symbols at one time as well. The difference is, those guys can flat act. Pitt, IMO, can't.

Another actor I can't stand, and I hope this doesn't offend anyone:

Ben Affleck