The Dark Knight Rises Adapting Robin

[Keyser Sushi]

I did this a long time ago but I'm going to reprint it here... this is my Robin

My take on Robin.

 

[GL1]

I like that last one... I'm still against the idea of movie Robin being a mini-Batman as he is in the comics, but if they did go the whole armor and stuff route, that would be pretty righteous...

 

[Dr.HugoStrange]

Iv'e always liked these robin designs

 

[Texas Zombie]

hey whats up guy i was gone working at an firework stand

 

[Rorschach2012]

I think the Red & Black costume they have right now for Robin would work very well in Nolan's universe. Sorry if it's been said before.

 

[Changeling]

Yes!

 

[GZUS]

Robin should not be introduced until at the very soonest, the last act of movie 3. Dick Grayson, on the other hand, should be introduced in either the second act of movie two, or the first act of movie three (if he were to become Robin at any point) or just any time in movie three (if he is not going to become Robin in the trilogy).

If he becomes Robin:
-Have him introduced as Dick Grayson in movie two. He is not scouted out by Bruce Wayne, but Bruce is very interested in the boys talents. He attends the Circus charity with Selina. You can have the backstory of how his mother loved the circus and the money she used to raise through it would go to the Children's hospital of Gotham...this would be the only reason Bruce would entertain the idea of attending. That, and Alfred's insistence of Bruce's "bachelor persona".
-In part of the gang war the Joker started, Zucco, Maroni and the Falcones are in a deadly battle. The Circus is a racket of Maroni. Zucco attacks the circus as an act against Maroni. The Graysons are caught in the crossfire.
-The boy is kicked around for most of the movie, we get a few short quick scenes following where he is. A similar scene with Gordon telling him "it's okay" as the one between young Bruce and Gordon 20 years ago.
-Bruce takes the boy in to train him and also to improve his image after burning his own house down.
-He sees great hope in Dick. But also sees a grave threat. He sees the same anger and thirst for vengeance in Dick's eyes as he did in his own years ago. He recalls Ra's and his guidance and how easy it was to get lost in the darkness. He couldn't afford to let Dick conceit to the darkness, he could become very formidable left to his own devices.
-Batman remembers Ra's and the idea of being a symbol, immortal. That he himself will one day be gone and the work he does must continue, enter Dick.


Movie Three:
-Dick is trained by Bruce and by the end of the film dons the costume much like DARK VICTORY without Bruce's knowledge and saves him against Two-Face and the Joker.



If he doesn't become Robin.
-Just everything I outlined in movie two, but place it in movie three. Just have the final scene in the film be an exchange between Bruce and Alfred (much like that at the end of BATMAN BEGINS in the rubble of the Manor).

ALFRED
And what of the boy?

BRUCE
He needs me. He's apart of this now.

ALFRED
If I may sir, I think it's you who needs him.
(beat)
You've seen what tragedy can do to a young man. You've lost Mr. Dent to it, and almost yourself all those years ago. But if you are keeping this boy only to rectify your own demons-

BRUCE
No. This is something he wants to do.

ALFRED
What does he want, sir?

BRUCE
I'm going to train him.


FADE TO BLACK​

Then end with another rooftop scene with Batman and Gordon.

Robin can work. Dick Grayson can work. Any character can work if they are done respectfully. And any character can be broken if done irresponsibly (BATMAN RETURNS, BATMAN FOREVER, BATMAN & ROBIN) just because, Batman, Penguin, Robin, Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, Riddler, Two-Face, Bane and Batgirl were done poorly in these movies doesn't mean they were bad characters...I hate when people reference Schumaker's Robin as a reason Robin couldn't work. I could do the same and say Nolan shouldn't do Two-Face because of what Schumaker did to him. These great characters are stronger than one directors vision. Let's see it on screen.

-R

I imagined it exactly the same. Exactly.

 

[Matt.S99]

I like it less without it, but here:

whoa i like this design! who did you use under the mask?

 

[EagleVision]

Don't want to see Robin in any Nolan Batman film.......maybe part four or five......hmm, maybe not. I don't know who Robin could be. But I like the idea of Henry Cavill playing Nightwing. He was hyped up to be in Superman Returns when it was first coming on scene, he was in Counte of Monte Cristo, and really, I haven't seen that mug since then. Assuming, he's still acting, Henry Cavill for Nightwing, not Robin, would be cool to see in Nolan's Batman part 6 or 7 (or 8) lol

Here's to hoping we get that far!

 

[Matt.S99]

Im not too crazy about Robin in a Begins sequal, but if he is, i dont mind.
If he was in a movie. He would have to be at youngest 16. oldest 18-19,but thats already pushing it. I want the regular robin story. Flying graysons, they perform, ssomeone kills their parents. Dick is full of hate and anger, bruce takes him in and trains him which will lead to him becoming robin, but, I dont want him to be all over the top with alot of witty remarks. Some here and there but not too much

 

[Nepenthes]

wow, surprised this thread is still going strong

these are fantastic. anyone know the artist on the second one? that is THE mask movie Robin should have. No arguments about it.

 

[EagleVision]

wow, surprised this thread is still going strong

these are fantastic. anyone know the artist on the second one? that is THE mask movie Robin should have. No arguments about it.

Had to comment to your drawing. Very well done, great coloring, shading, it's tight!

 

[EagleVision]

as they get older

I just see Henry Cavill right now when I see Nightwing. Although I might be alone on that, he could do it. If anyone can find him since he did Counte of Monte Cristo

 

[Agentsands77]

That's a pretty fantastic design.

At any rate, if Robin is adapted, he shouldn't go into crimefighting right away in his 13-year-old state. I imagine a sort of Robin trilogy of sorts, where his involvement progresses as he ages, with him continually training in the background and playing a helpful role here and there.

 

[Keyser Sushi]

wow, surprised this thread is still going strong

these are fantastic. anyone know the artist on the second one? that is THE mask movie Robin should have. No arguments about it.

I dunno who did the second one but wow, it is awesome.

As the first one is mine I just wanted to say thanks.

 

[Matt.S99]

how about something like this

Spoiler

i know lots of people dont like him so just ignore the face
obviously this is the fantastic four body, but just something more materialized

 

[tekken]

based on The Dark Knight costume.

 

[Nepenthes]

^ well hello. that's fcken awesome

I like the approach but if I can be picky I'd prefer if the torso was all one piece. Literally a tunic like from the comics, except it's soft Kevlar and it would have a chivalrous, heroic type look about it, a modern Prince Valiant (as opposed to the techy ninja look, which is still bad arse but I think a additional aspect should also be mixed in for Robins look). The tunic would also emphasise a Robin red breast type motif.

The fanboy in me also misses the green, but more than that I think the Robins colours should be retained in a movie for a good reason.


Strangely enough, when I first saw the TDK suit I immediately thought of Robin. I tend to think that the way to rescue the classic costume for the screen is to add more flourishes and detail to the basic design. Details that are not only practical (pouches, seams etc) but also purely attractive in a visual sense. Intricate metal inlays in medievil type design, coloured layers of different fabric overlapping each other, a shining Robin emblem etc. Rather than dressing to invoke fear like Batman, Robin is like a rich young knight from a noble house, literally dressing to impress. I also think of him as the more public side of the Duo, so he should invoke a positive, friendly and awe-inspiring feeling in civilians when they see him.

On top of that, the type of practical detail in the TDK suit would help him look a like a agile ninja/advanced warrior which is also crucial to his look. Just cant forget to balance in the RobinHood, Squire, and Red Bird aspects in there as well. It's not easy.

 

[CaptainGenerica]

Rather than dressing to invoke fear like Batman, Robin is like a rich young knight from a noble house, literally dressing to impress. I also think of him as the more public side of the Duo, so he should invoke a positive, friendly and awe-inspiring feeling in civilians when they see him.

Good post, some intriguing interpretations.



One thing a lot of people miss, in my opinion, when reinterpreting Robin's costume (or really, just the entire concept of Robin) is that he doesn't need to do all the exact same things as Batman, and so "realistic" as it applies to Batman isn't the same thing as "realistic" applied to Robin. For instance, he doesn't need to wear all black because he doesn't rely on the shadows and theatricality the same way Batman does; he's much more of an in-your-face fighter, depending on his agility and speed more than anything else. I've always felt that Robin, unlike Batman, can fight in a well-lit environment without hindrance.

 

[CaptainClown]

There are some good ideas in here. I really didn't like Batman but you guys convinced me to give it a shot (thumbs up with that)

 

[dancing_on_fire]

i hope the third film has two-face linked to Robin's parents death and at the end of the film when he learns Bruce's identity, Bruce offers him his legacy and kinda ends with that in mind that he becomes Robin. that would be great.

 

[tekken]

On top of that, the type of practical detail in the TDK suit would help him look a like a agile ninja/advanced warrior which is also crucial to his look. Just cant forget to balance in the RobinHood, Squire, and Red Bird aspects in there as well. It's not easy.

yeah, i ditched the robin hood thing. i was thinking i could make his cape and gloves dark green or something. i guess dick grayson's gotta have green.

and someone mentioned the dbz hair; i did that cuz there's no other way to disguise him, and i really wanted for him to have his regular mask. i was thinking either that or a shaved head look similar to the chris o'donnel robin...but we all know no body wants another chris o'donnel. not so much that he was bad, but it'll probably remind us of batman & robin.

 

[GL1]

Has the idea of a non-combatant Robin been brought up?

 

[tekken]

Has the idea of a non-combatant Robin been brought up?

i was actually thinking about that. i'd prefer it actually.

i'd imagine him being like bruce wayne in batman beyond...like telling him where to go, where he is, and what not. his code name could be robin, and when he actually fights crime, he could become nightwing. that would be how i would approach it.

but in the end, we'll probably have more of a chance seeing robin in JLA than any of the batman movies.

 

[Matt.S99]

that should be oracles job, not robins