The Dark Knight Rises Adapting Robin

[Kaizer104]

no robin please no robin, nothing against the character but Robin killed the Batman franchise in batman forever but i think that was down to joel schumacher rather than Chris O' Donnel.

Nolan has introduced the batman we've seen in the comics, gritty, gothic menacing and dark so y bring in robin? and is ther going to be a second sequel?

I didn't actually see much wrong with the Batman Forever design of Robin; he was gritty, vengeful, yet teenage enough to work as a sidekick to a more grownup and brooding Batman. His physical design wasn't too bad either; the short hair is a better idea in my opinion because then it wouldn't be as easy to lose a few hairs and have the police hunt you down off that. This is the gotham that fears Batman, the police want Batman captured.

 

[Thythoutrust]

Robin would need to have a larger mask.

 

[Texas Zombie]

i want robin eathe to have a mask similar to gamit or come allthe way around the head

 

[olemonica]

I'm hoping they do some stylistic batman movies after nolans run is over. Like some Sin City or 300 type stuff where they can pull off the more fantastical villains like clayface, manbat, croc, freeze, ivy, etc. A stylized joker could be the closest we get to the comic version too.

That would be AMAZING... if it was pulled off right. The idea is great.

An all green-screen version of batman in sin city style.

 

[ashminator]

what about robins mask just like batmans but with the top chopped off to show hair and no pointy ears ala cyclops in xmen comics without the visor

but the red and black like off batman and robin

 

[TimDrakeRobin45]

Ok I got a chance to get this colored up. I think either one will work.
They were much darker shades but when I uploaded them for some reason
they got lighter. Anyways, I dont care for a larger mask or anything like that
I am very traditional and it was a stretch for me just to imagine him in this suit.
But I think the red and green is the best but thats just me lol. The red looks all right too.

 

[Victarion]

I think the Robin-Batman relationship should be something akin to the Roland-Jake relationship, should he by some merry chance appear in Nolan's run on Batman. With Nolan we could see Bruce more or less being a father figure to Dick (or not, depending on how busy he is). Then after Nolan leaves we can adapt Robin as a fifteen or sixteen year old kid. Think about it: Both instances involve a dark, moody father figure and a child with the potential to be uber annoying. I retract all my anti-Robin sentiments and think given proper development he could be an interesting addition to the films.

 

[anrrd_2]

Ok I got a chance to get this colored up. I think either one will work.
They were much darker shades but when I uploaded them for some reason
they got lighter. Anyways, I dont care for a larger mask or anything like that
I am very traditional and it was a stretch for me just to imagine him in this suit.
But I think the red and green is the best but thats just me lol. The red looks all right too.

i like the pure red....but both are nice. could you work up a pic of him in action? perhaps with his trusty bowstaff?

 

[JediTalen]

Ok I got a chance to get this colored up. I think either one will work.
They were much darker shades but when I uploaded them for some reason
they got lighter. Anyways, I dont care for a larger mask or anything like that
I am very traditional and it was a stretch for me just to imagine him in this suit.
But I think the red and green is the best but thats just me lol. The red looks all right too.

Ok I like yours better, and I stand in awe of your talents, Red and Green absolutely.

 

[November Rain]

I wouldn't mind bruce teaching a young dick grayson (taking him in etc...) in the art of crime fighting but to actually see him go out as robin may be a lil to much as a stretch...

i couldn't see robin going out being younger than 15/16 (you get some big kids these days) but any younger than that and it's crazy...

pick him up as a ten year old and mature him for a few years than maybe but this is over like 2 films...

 

[ashminator]

i think the red should be smaller to be honest mabee stop above the belt or below the pecks and id change the green to either a black,grey or brown

and i wouldnt even use the yellow on the inner lining of the cape

 

[Reflectionist]

i think the red should be smaller to be honest mabee stop above the belt or below the pecks and id change the green to either a black,grey or brown

and i wouldnt even use the yellow on the inner lining of the cape

Make his pecks red? Sort of like, I don't know.... a Red-Breasted Robin?

>.>

 

[GL1]

A lot of Cirque de Soleil acrobats are also trained in various forms of matrial arts, because it helps train the muscles and keeps the whole body flexible. I'm certain this applies to other acrobat groups as well.

I agree if your last point though - if they're going to have Dick go after the mob, he should fail and get saved by Bats, and then trained and become Robin. Defeating a bunch of gangsters, even with martial arts training, as a young teen acrobat is just silly.

And now I've have been informed.

I kind of pictures Haley's Circus as a Mom and Pop Circus, and I usually don't consider it even vaguely on par with Cirque de Soleil, by simple virtue of the fact it's run by a guy named "Pop Haley." But perhaps you are right, and many or most acrobats practice some level of martial arts.

I agree with your conclusion though, I just typically insert something between being saved by Bats and being Trained to become Robin.

Refer to my idea

The problem I have with your idea is that a self-trained vigilante = a dead vigilante. There's nothing at a circus that could equip Richard to survive a run in with armed men in the street... even if he is 18.

And if he's 18, he's useless. He can't replace Batman ten-twenty years down the line, and he can't be any good to Batman right now, neither can he be trusted.

 

[elgato]

Just an opinion, but I think JMC would do a nice Robin Manip

 

[GL1]

I wouldn't mind bruce teaching a young dick grayson (taking him in etc...) in the art of crime fighting but to actually see him go out as robin may be a lil to much as a stretch...

i couldn't see robin going out being younger than 15/16 (you get some big kids these days) but any younger than that and it's crazy...

pick him up as a ten year old and mature him for a few years than maybe but this is over like 2 films...

Ah, the sound of sanity.

I hate coming into a thread and raining on parades. But why would Robin have armor... and where would he get it from?

I don't think this concept can hold up under any scrutiny... it might be best to just let illogical dreaming continue and keep storyline stuff in the "Adapting Robin" thread.

 

[Reflectionist]

Ah, the sound of sanity.

I hate coming into a thread and raining on parades. But why would Robin have armor... and where would he get it from?

I don't think this concept can hold up under any scrutiny... it might be best to just let illogical dreaming continue and keep storyline stuff in the "Adapting Robin" thread.

Um, the same place Bruce got his?? What, do you think they only made one suit? When they say it was developed for the military, do you think they meant for one soldier, of a very specific height and weight?

 

[GL1]

Its not the greatest thing in the world, this is just how I would imagine doing it... this is how Id do it.

You're getting warm, with the cobbled-together outfit, but I would suggest a few more classic elements, and less Nightwing-lite. (aka NiteWing). Keep everything black except the jacket (personally, I would make it a vest jacket) and instead of the hood and mouthcover, give him some nightvision/telescopic goggles... it would keep the 'black-over-the-eyes' of Robin's normal suit, as well as give him a purpose in the field, with goggles being something that he could concevably steal/borrow/recieve from Bruce, unlike body armor.

Add an R-Shuriken to the chest and you have a costume that nods to the Robin costume and also makes sense.

 

[GL1]

Um, the same place Bruce got his?? What, do you think they only made one suit? When they say it was developed for the military, do you think they meant for one soldier, of a very specific height and weight?

Great questions.

Begins implied they only made one suit, and gave a very concrete reason why they didn't make anymore. I won't even go into the plot holes that would need to be patched if another suit was made, but, to answers your question: YES. Only one suit was made.

If they did make additional suits, then, yes, it could be configured to the size of another adult. I had forgotten that the idea of an Adult Robin doesn't sound absurd to some people.

That still doesn't explain why. But you are correct, it is possible for other suits to exist or be created.

 

[Reflectionist]

The problem I have with your idea is that a self-trained vigilante = a dead vigilante. There's nothing at a circus that could equip Richard to survive a run in with armed men in the street... even if he is 18.

And if he's 18, he's useless. He can't replace Batman ten-twenty years down the line, and he can't be any good to Batman right now, neither can he be trusted.

How is Bruce taking on criminals in prison from Batman Begins any different?

 

[Reflectionist]

Great questions.

Begins implied they only made one suit, and gave a very concrete reason why they didn't make anymore. I won't even go into the plot holes that would need to be patched if another suit was made, but, to answers your question: YES. Only one suit was made.

If they did make additional suits, then, yes, it could be configured to the size of another adult. I had forgotten that the idea of an Adult Robin doesn't sound absurd to some people.

That still doesn't explain why. But you are correct, it is possible for other suits to exist or be created.

Yes, I was just making a point. I think though that it should be specially made for him by Lucius Fox anyway (I bet he figured out Bruce was Batman in a flash anyway). And that should be ONLY after Robin has earned his stripes through training with Bruce (which would put him at a younger age to begin with.)

After all, think of the new TDK suit. Where do you suppose Bruce got that one?

 

[GL1]

Yes, I was just making a point. I think though that it should be specially made for him by Lucius Fox anyway (I bet he figured out Bruce was Batman in a flash anyway). And that should be ONLY after Robin has earned his stripes through training with Bruce (which would put him at a younger age to begin with.)

After all, think of the new TDK suit. Where do you suppose Bruce got that one?

Well, I do agree on the Grayson-starts-training-young-and-doesn't-get-to-be-Robin-til-he's-older thing... but even with that added (and I've been harping on that in Robin threads for a while), it still feels weird giving a minor an armored suit, even if he can fit it.

And I can't imagine them making it any color other than all black if they do...

 

[GL1]

How is Bruce taking on criminals in prison from Batman Begins any different?

Criminals in Prison don't have guns.
Additionally, criminals in prison are being guarded, and many fights are prevented as such.
Bruce was, for all intents and purposes, a hardened criminal himself.

If Robin had been living in rough/lethal conditions for a few years (not just training with circus martial arts masters), and went out to fight criminals who had no guns, then he may very well survive, despite his size disadvantage.

But that doesn't make any sense.

 

[November Rain]

the all red is better than the bits with the green in it.

 

[ashminator]

yes like a red breasted robin thats his name isnt it?

not red body boy or yes i used to be in the circus as an acrobat but look like a clown boy

like i said before the batman and robin suit was good not to sure on the mask though

if bruce has a new suit cant dick have the old one? and just paint the bat red? and do somthing with his mask?

 

[NoirMan82]

I can't help but think some people are over-thinking Robin's introduction. I think the best way to do it is to play it straight. The first rule of screenwriting is "don't be smarter than your material." By thinking Robin is a silly or flawed character you set youself up to present him that way. IMO the best and most serviceable Robin origin has already been told. Check out BTAS season 2. The origin told in Robin's Reckoning is perfect for the Nolan films, just age Dick to about 16. It shows how Dick had a passion for justice and a dark side that Batman has to reign in. I can't see any better way to present the character. i could see this working in a 3rd or 4th movie.