Dick grayson lived w/ bruce for a number of years before begining his training or wearing the costume so introducing him as an 18 -20 year old is straight up dumb and has been done before....How could he raise dick if he's already 18-years old.
I disagree. Sure in the comics Bruce helps raise Dick and Jason, but I don't think him being a parent is a crucial element. He can still be a mentor to an older Robin and the important bits stay the same.
Remember there is an important difference between BB and comic book Bruce. In BB Bruce was still vengeful and confused in his early 20's. I'd have it so he sees Robin like that, in his teens, and decides to help him.
when robin is introduced after the third film. its not like they just threw him in there. It's like okay Dick has been living w/ him for a while and we got to see this character grow a little.
Yep, you could introduce a child in movie three and show the circus scene, then cut to a new trilogy and he's a teenager who's been living with Bruce for a while. You could even have different actors here.
adam west said:
I'd have them all. He starts as the acrobat, then flees the circus and has to live like a hoodlum which is where Batman finds him and realizes that he needs guidance. Which in turn leads to him using a natural slant for detective reasoning.
I was thinking the same. A Jason Todd type with Dick Graysons origin. The alternative is a more geeky tech support kinda guy, but for now here's what I'd do.
- Batman finds a teenager messing with his Tumbler. He scares him off, the the guy does a double somersault over a ledge.
- Later on Batman sees the same guy spying into a mobsters den. The guy is caught, he easily takes down half dozen thugs but is then shot in the leg. The mobsters are going to kill him but Batman busts the place up. In the aftermath the kid gets arrested by cops, he's a known street thug.
- Bruce goes to bail the kid out, and finds out that he's actually Dick Grayson, a gypsy kid who's been running wild since his parents circus disbanded. Bruce remembers being at the event. He offers to help him, maybe get him into a scholarship or new circus or something.
- Bruce lectures Dick about revenge. Dick keeps going out at night and getting into fights with thugs. Dick finds out about Bruce parents. Batman is getting old and tired.
- Dick figures out that Bruce is Batman. Alfred wonders if that's what Bruce intended all along.
Robin 91939 said:
He sees the same anger and thirst for vengeance in Dick's eyes as he did in his own years ago. He recalls Ra's and his guidance and how easy it was to get lost in the darkness. He couldn't afford to let Dick conceit to the darkness, he could become very formidable left to his own devices.
-Batman remembers Ra's and the idea of being a symbol, immortal. That he himself will one day be gone and the work he does must continue, enter Dick.
Exactly. If you play it like Ra's Al Ghul in BB it dosn't matter if Robin is in his late teens. It's not about Bruce raising a young boy, it's him saving a young man. Same as Ra's did.
Your dialogue is great but I'd probably leave it for a new trilogy. Even if the option was open I don't think Robin in TDK is a good idea at all. Maybe show Dick Grayson and the circus, but no hints to anything else. In movie 3, who knows I'd have to see TDK first.