After Nolan's BATMAN trilogy... - Part 1

[OptimusPrime114]

This is just a random question:

Would you be interested in seeing Robin and Batgirl if their characters were written VERY well?

 

[Travesty]

This is just a random question:

Would you be interested in seeing Robin and Batgirl if their characters were written VERY well?

YES! Robin more than anything, but I wouldn't mind seeing both.

 

[Rodrigo90]

I would like the look of Gotham to be Dark Deco, not Gothic, for the reboot, like TAS. But instead having the entire look be modern, not stuck in some obscure 40's setting.

So imagine Gotham having the Dark Deco, but slapped with obvious modernism and a few elements of futurism.

 

[Jick]

I just want a more fantastical Batman after Nolan's.
A world where any villain could work without worrying about realistic or grounded details.

 

[Travesty]

I would like the look of Gotham to be Dark Deco, not Gothic, for the reboot, like TAS. But instead having the entire look be modern, not stuck in some obscure 40's setting.

So imagine Gotham having the Dark Deco, but slapped with obvious modernism and a few elements of futurism.

I actually wouldn't mind having a 40s style in the new one. One thing I loved about BTAS, is how everybody is less advanced to Batman in just about every way possible.

 

[Rodrigo90]

We already saw that with Burton's movies.

And if this reboot is going to be connected to the same universe as MOS, I doubt things will be too far fetched. But then again, I am expecting a more fantastical DC world, thanks to Synder's style. Cause I can't imagine everything looking too different and obscure when it's supposed to be set in the same world.

 

[Shikamaru]

Regardless of which direction they take the reboot in, I think we can all agree the reboot has to have these things in it with no exception whatsoever:

1) A Batman suit that's more like the comics. No more rubber or armor suits. Take the suit from the comics and put it straight onto the screen (minus the underwear) and no one will have a problem. I don't see how it would look silly. No one found the suit in the fan film City of Scars to look silly and it was straight from the comics. No one found the suit in the Arkham games silly either (and that suit would look GREAT in live-action minus the bulky gauntlets). Plus, it shouldn't be much of a problem even if it did look silly, since Batman spends most of his time in the dark and you wouldn't see it much.

2) A Batman that is the world's greatest detective and consistently uses those skills throughout the film. We haven't seen this in live-action since the 60s show. He did use a bit of detective work every now and then in both the Burton and Nolan films (and even in Batman Forever) but we have yet to see a Batman that proves he is the world's greatest detective and a Batman that is forced to use detective work throughout the movie. All we got were cameos of that so far.

3) A universe that is perfectly consistent in using both grounded & crime-drama villains (like the Nolan films) but is still able to do a lot of non-realistic villains & fantasy elements (Clayface, Ra's al Ghul with his Lazarus pits, Man-Bat, Poison Ivy, etc.) The best example of this being done are Batman TAS and The Long Halloween.

4) A Batman that can alter his voice to sound good when in the suit.

5) A Batman that makes his own weapons.

6) A Batman that can move and fight as fluid as in the comics. We have yet to see a Batman in live-action that can do all the feats comic book Batman has. Like jumping from to building using only his legs, jumping from a building and landing with feet on the ground, being able to dodge bullets while gliding in the air, etc. Only then we can have a Batman that is to be believable that he can keep up with the rest of the JL members.

So can we all, regardless of which direction we want the reboot to go in, agree that it must definitely have these things?

 

[DawnWarrior]

^Each of those things sounds excellent. I don't have as much of a problem with the armor suit, but it's worth a try.

 

[BestGirl]

I prefer a Batman who buys his weapons. Between crime-fighting, detective work, his charity, and job at WE I don't know where he'd find time to make his own weapons.

 

[CConn]

It would make sense for Batman to invent a weapon or two depending on the circumstance.

 

[Rodrigo90]

It's Batman...with Nolan no longer involved, he can build whatever he wants without Fox and realism involved...implausibility all the way!

 

[Juicy J]

I just want a more fantastical Batman after Nolan's.
A world where any villain could work without worrying about realistic or grounded details.

Agreed.
I greatly enjoy Nolan's films, but his whole 'realistic, pragmatic' approach has worn out it's welcome, IMO. Three films of that is enough. I'm dying to see a Batman film with some fantastical, supernatural elements. I mean it's a comic book movie, after all..

 

[Jordacar]

One thing I know for sure, the next film where Batman appears is gonna be in 3D

 

[GREEN =w= DAY]

one thing is for sure, I DO NOT WANT an origin story. we already got that with Batman Begins and it did it perfectly. i don't want the new set of films starting off like Amazing Spiderman with another damn origin. have this film sort of start out like Burton's 1st Batman film in which Bruce is already Batman and we get a flashback to the night his parents died.

in fact, i think a pretty cool opening for the reboot would be Bruce at his parent's grave and we get a flashback to the night his parents were gunned down.

 

[SGTchef]

One thing I know for sure, the next film where Batman appears is gonna be in 3D

Day one

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

I prefer a Batman who buys his weapons. Between crime-fighting, detective work, his charity, and job at WE I don't know where he'd find time to make his own weapons.

That's kind of the point, isn't it? That's what makes him so amazing.

 

[TheWatcher]

Agreed.
I greatly enjoy Nolan's films, but his whole 'realistic, pragmatic' approach has worn out it's welcome, IMO. Three films of that is enough. I'm dying to see a Batman film with some fantastical, supernatural elements. I mean it's a comic book movie, after all..

I agree with this entirely. I want to see Killer Croc,Clayface,etc

 

[Midnight Black]

Next up Justice League Batman...make it happen!

 

[Destructus86]

Primarely, what I want from a Batman film after Nolan is done...is to UNground it from reality. I'm not saying make it crazy...but let's comic-book it up a lot more than it is currently. I want Mr. Freeze...the one from the comic, not a previous film we will not mention.

 

[Shikamaru]

Regardless of which direction they take the reboot in, I think we can all agree the reboot has to have these things in it with no exception whatsoever:

1) A Batman suit that's more like the comics. No more rubber or armor suits. Take the suit from the comics and put it straight onto the screen (minus the underwear) and no one will have a problem. I don't see how it would look silly. No one found the suit in the fan film City of Scars to look silly and it was straight from the comics. No one found the suit in the Arkham games silly either (and that suit would look GREAT in live-action minus the bulky gauntlets). Plus, it shouldn't be much of a problem even if it did look silly, since Batman spends most of his time in the dark and you wouldn't see it much.

2) A Batman that is the world's greatest detective and consistently uses those skills throughout the film. We haven't seen this in live-action since the 60s show. He did use a bit of detective work every now and then in both the Burton and Nolan films (and even in Batman Forever) but we have yet to see a Batman that proves he is the world's greatest detective and a Batman that is forced to use detective work throughout the movie. All we got were cameos of that so far.

3) A universe that is perfectly consistent in using both grounded & crime-drama villains (like the Nolan films) but is still able to do a lot of non-realistic villains & fantasy elements (Clayface, Ra's al Ghul with his Lazarus pits, Man-Bat, Poison Ivy, etc.) The best example of this being done are Batman TAS and The Long Halloween.

4) A Batman that can alter his voice to sound good when in the suit.

5) A Batman that makes his own weapons.

6) A Batman that can move and fight as fluid as in the comics. We have yet to see a Batman in live-action that can do all the feats comic book Batman has. Like jumping from to building using only his legs, jumping from a building and landing with feet on the ground, being able to dodge bullets while gliding in the air, etc. Only then we can have a Batman that is to be believable that he can keep up with the rest of the JL members.

So can we all, regardless of which direction we want the reboot to go in, agree that it must definitely have these things?

Added one more that I forgot.

 

[Rodrigo90]

A Batman suit that's more like the comics. No more rubber or armor suits. Take the suit from the comics and put it straight onto the screen (minus the underwear) and no one will have a problem. I don't see how it would look silly. No one found the suit in the fan film City of Scars to look silly and it was straight from the comics. No one found the suit in the Arkham games silly either (and that suit would look GREAT in live-action minus the bulky gauntlets). Plus, it shouldn't be much of a problem even if it did look silly, since Batman spends most of his time in the dark and you wouldn't see it much.

The suit in the comics now IS composed from armour and other things. You can find it on wiki what it's made from.

I've said before, I don't think the grey suit looks good in real life, just like the black suit doesn't look good in the comics.

And we most certainly can't afford to have Batman's suit look 'silly' and hopes the lighting will somehow hide it!

Just give me the current look of the costume, which is good, in black.

 

[The Guard]

And we most certainly can't afford to have Batman's suit look 'silly' and hopes the lighting will somehow hide it!

Yes...that would be awful.

 

[Rodrigo90]

It would

I mean, I get accused of not being a true Batman fan when I say I don't think the grey costume will work in live action. Everybody more or less wants it just to be grey for comic accuracy, which is fine. But I think we can agree, if it didn't look good, didn't translate well, wether it was the colour or materials...none of us want Batman to look silly, just for the sake of being comic accurate?!

It's like what Stan Lee said, some things just don't translate from the comics into film, and things to compromise.

But who knows? Maybe with the right creative team, the grey suit will work for the film?
But from what I've seen from B89 to BB, it wouldn't of. But as I said, perhaps all it needs is the right creative team, differing from the likes of Burton, Shumacer and Nolan?

 

[GREEN =w= DAY]

the gray & black suit being used on that porn parody looks awesome

 

[Travesty]

You can't say for sure if a grey suit would work or not, because nobody has done it in a big budget film.