After Nolan's BATMAN trilogy... - Part 1

[raybia]

We're talking about a live action Brad Bird movie, right?

I dunno. The direction on MI4 didn't totally blow me away. Not that it was bad in any way, but it didn't make me stop and take notice like Refn, or Abrams or Rian Johnson did.

I found Bird's MI superior to JJ's. But what really has me convinced he could successfully pull it off is both the Iron Giant and the Incredibles.

With that said, I think while Brad Bird could pull off a Batman movie inspired by BTAS, I think he would be better suited for a Superman movie.

Since thats not going to happen anytime soon I love to see him do the Flash or do the reboot of Green Lantern.

 

[CConn]

Yeah, Iron Giant and The Incredibles are nothing like Batman. Neither thematically, characters or otherwise.

 

[CConn]

I found Bird's MI superior to JJ's.

The film or his direction?

There's a distinct difference between those two things.

 

[Rodrigo90]

I wouldn't want to see a direct adapt of TAS. But to see the characterization of Batman and the design of Gotham be used, amongst other things, it would be heaven!

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Yeah, Iron Giant and The Incredibles are nothing like Batman. Neither thematically, characters or otherwise.

But Batman is much closer to those things than Mission Impossible and Brad Bird made one of the best MI movies.

So who knows what he could do with Batman?

Memento and Insomnia is nothing like most Batman comic books yet Nolan's trilogy is pretty well received by Batman fans and film critics.

 

[CConn]

But Batman is much closer to those things than Mission Impossible and Brad Bird made one of the best MI movies.

No, The Incredibles and MI4 are kinda similar. Both are very much spy movies (albeit for different age groups), and I found the tone of both to be quite similar (IE; suspenseful, but always rather light with an element of fun laced underneat).

Memento and Insomnia is nothing like most Batman comic books yet Nolan's trilogy is pretty well received by Batman fans and film critics.

Both Momento and Insomnia deal very heavily with obsession, revenge (or, rather, vengeance) and strong themes of justice and the morality behind it.

That seems very Batman to me.

 

[raybia]

Yeah, Iron Giant and The Incredibles are nothing like Batman. Neither thematically, characters or otherwise.

I think what would make Bird's take on a Batman film interesting is his thematic style of the exceptional individual overcoming obstacles.

He successfully projects a distinctly American spirit in many of his movies, one that celebrates exceptionalism and individual achievement and its for that reason that he would be a no-brainer to direct a superhero movie but is probably tailor made for Superman. Iron Giant was really IMO partly a homage to the character.

 

[CConn]

I think what would make Bird's take on a Batman film interesting is his thematic style of the exceptional individual overcoming obstacles.

He successfully projects a distinctly American spirit in many of his movies, one that celebrates exceptionalism and individual achievement and its for that reason that he would be a no-brainer to direct a superhero movie but is probably tailor made for Superman. Iron Giant was really IMO partly a homage to the character.

Yeah, I definitely agree with that.

I'd love to see him on a movie like Superman, Flash, or another superhero of that similar tone.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

^ Thats why I said if they go the action/adventure Batman route Bird would be perfect for it. But if they are still going for the crime drama Batman that has been displayed in Nolans films than someone esle would be better.

 

[CConn]

Hm. That actually just made me picture a really awesome adaptation of 70s Batman.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

What was wrong with 70s Batman? Its what turned him around to being a great hero again. And Bird would be good for Superman aswell, but Snyder has that project right now, maybe when his run is over Bird can get a shot.

 

[Young Superman]

I found Bird's MI superior to JJ's. But what really has me convinced he could successfully pull it off is both the Iron Giant and the Incredibles.

With that said, I think while Brad Bird could pull off a Batman movie inspired by BTAS, I think he would be better suited for a Superman movie.

Since thats not going to happen anytime soon I love to see him do the Flash or do the reboot of Green Lantern.

If Bird was gonna direct any DC superhero film, it sould have been Superman.

 

[TheWatcher]

I wouldn't want to see a direct adapt of TAS. But to see the characterization of Batman and the design of Gotham be used, amongst other things, it would be heaven!

You read my man man.
BTAS + a little bit of 70's Batman + Brad Bird = Perfection

 

[CConn]

What was wrong with 70s Batman?

Oh no, I'm being honest. It would be an awesome movie.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

No, The Incredibles and MI4 are kinda similar. Both are very much spy movies (albeit for different age groups), and I found the tone of both to be quite similar (IE; suspenseful, but always rather light with an element of fun laced underneat).
Both Momento and Insomnia deal very heavily with obsession, revenge (or, rather, vengeance) and strong themes of justice and the morality behind it.

That seems very Batman to me.

But if two serial killer movies qualify Nolan for Batman how would a spy oriented, animated superhero movie and a badass rogue spy action movie disqualify Brad Bird from doing a more imaginative Batman reboot? Even Nolan's Bat-films are kinda like Bond spy movies.

Would Brad Bird ever make a movie like Batman Begins? No but that doesn't mean he couldn't make a smart and respectful Batman movie with Robin, Clayface, or Mr. Freeze leading up to a Justice League film, things that Nolan's universe wouldn't allow.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

You read my man man.
BTAS + a little bit of 70's Batman + Brad Bird = Perfection

Exactly! t:

 

[GREEN =w= DAY]

i want the freaks of nature villains. i'm talking about Man-Bat, Clayface, Killer Croc, etc.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

i want the freaks of nature villains. i'm talking about Man-Bat, Clayface, Killer Croc, etc.

I would like a classic fantasy-based villain and a reality-based villain for every movie. One of each.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

I just want a writer/director team that can do Robin justice on screen.

 

[metaphysician]

I want a director who, if they did a movie with Mr Freeze as the villain, would go and watch "Heart of Ice" ten times in a row to get the characterization down.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I want a director who, if they did a movie with Mr Freeze as the villain, would go and watch "Heart of Ice" ten times in a row to get the characterization down.

Or just team up Timm/Dini with Brad Bird.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

But if two serial killer movies qualify Nolan for Batman how would a spy oriented, animated superhero movie and a badass rogue spy action movie disqualify Brad Bird from doing a more imaginative Batman reboot? Even Nolan's Bat-films are kinda like Bond spy movies.

Would Brad Bird ever make a movie like Batman Begins? No but that doesn't mean he couldn't make a smart and respectful Batman movie with Robin, Clayface, or Mr. Freeze leading up to a Justice League film, things that Nolan's universe wouldn't allow.

Honestly The Dark Knight is more like Ghost Protocal and the other M.I. movies than Memento and Insomnia. I mean even Nolan stated his influences were movies like Blade Runner which isn't like either two of his previous films. M.I. is essentially a thriller through and through, and deals with themes and lofty subjects. Very similar styles of action. Anchored by similar styles of characters, most of them are serious. I mean in the first one you had Batman quipping "nice coat", "damn good television", "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you" just like Tom Cruise in an M.I. movie.

I think The Dark Knight certainly outweighs M.I. in grimness, and better villain in Ledger's Joker, but honestly similar stuff. "You're gonna love me", "(Bat forearm blades to Joker's face) I know how you got these", "You shoulda picked I higher window", "I thought my jokes were bad", "You wanna know how I got these scars". Again, very quoteable, action one liners.

Also you have very grand shots very skyscrapers in TDK and BB and that's nothing like his previous two. Those are much more akin to action and in large part what makes them so visually spectacular.

 

[TheWatcher]

I would like a classic fantasy-based villain and a reality-based villain for every movie. One of each.

I love this idea. Man Bat,Killer Croc or Clayface would be awesome to see on the big screen.

Maybe Two Face with Killer Croc as his henchman? Or possibly Riddler/Scarecow with Clayface/Manbat respectively?

 

[cronosred]

Or just team up Timm/Dini with Brad Bird.

That could be amazing but I doubt WB would be smart enough to give them a try.

 

[CConn]

I wonder if Brad Bird would even be allowed to work for WB what with his Disney connections.