Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents of SHIELD - Episode 2.20 - "Scars"

Yeah, S.H.I.E.L.D. was organized to exterminate the Inhumans. :whatever:



You have confused S.H.I.E.L.D. with HYDRA.

SHIELD was not organized to exterminate Inhumans...but...human history is full of groups who "just" want to catalog people who are different...and it doesn't generally lead to good things. Also, SHIELD absolutely has a history of imprisoning people with powers and experimenting on them. Also, from the Inhuman perspective, SHIELD and Hydra are two sides of the same coin. Plus, SHIELD has a weapon that can destroy the Inhumans.

What you're doing is using the fact that the show is named after SHIELD to place good intentions on the organization. The characters in the show are not aware that they are on tv, so they can only go by what information they have. To an Inhuman, SHIELD would be a very, very dangerous threat to their survival and way of life.
 
Point of correction: Mar-Vell's human alias was Dr. Walter Lawson.


While Carol is certainly the main character of the film, that doesn't preclude the presence in the film of other characters who have used that name, especially Mar-Vell.

FWIW, I find the Coulson=Mar-Vell theory to be extremely unlikely. Aside from the names not really being that similar, Coulson does not have Kree DNA, he had a Kree serum that is no longer in his system (and Clark's desire to play certain characters isn't terribly relevant). Being taken over by Kree impulses is a far cry from being taken over by a Kree consciousness. At the most, Coulson would be more like a Rick Jones analog, but even that seems unlikely.

We don't know it's out of his system. Even Coulson himself doesn't know that for sure. He also seemed to be largely oblivious to the Kree impulses. Think of the entire show as a whole from episode 1 through the mid-season finale. Everything was geared towards ultimately sending Skye through the Terrigen Mist. Every decision Coulson made and every action culminated in that singular event. If that isn't being controlled by Kree consciousness, I don't know what is. It might be unlikely, but I would love to see what would happen if Coulson held a Diviner.
 
Actually, now I'm getting confused. Didn't Cal say he didn't begin his... experimentation... until after Skye and Jiaying had been taken from him? If so, I see no reason to think he wouldn't have used a gun. Granted, this also makes the whole talk of "monsters" at Hunan to be a bit of hyperbole. Do I smell a retcon? Hopefully we get answers when we see what happens with Hyde next week.

At any rate, my version of events is similar to Usok's:
- A HYDRA leader in SHIELD (Pierce?) orders a team to search for Jiaying (the exact composition of this team, in terms of HYDRA vs. SHIELD is somewhat irrelevant, as they're just following orders, protecting the world from enhanced).
- The team discovers the baby instead, tries to take her as well.
- A fight with Cal & Jiangying ensues.
- One detachment of HYDRA agents manage to capture Jianying, and takes her to Whitehall's base. Pierce releases Whitehall to continue his experimentation there.
- The remaining HYDRA/SHIELD agents are slaughtered, but one manages to hide under a bridge with the baby before dying. How much of this slaughter is internal SHIELD/HYDRA fighting vs. Cal (or other Inhumans???) fighting them is unknown.
- The SHIELD rookies running back-end move in and see the destruction. They have no idea of HYDRA or of Cal and Jiangying. They find the baby in the dead operatives arms, assume she's the 0-8-4, and take her for her own safety.
- What isn't clear to me is the intentions of the dead senior operative: was he HYDRA, kidnapping Skye, or a SHIELD loyalist, trying to protect her? I suspect the former.
- Do we know if it was HYDRA or Cal who starts tracking down and killing the rookie SHIELD agents?

The way I understand it, after reviewing (S02E10) is this. Around 1989 Cal and Jiaying were working in his clinic when men showed up and claimed they were SHIELD. They took Jiaying, and Cal chased after them trying to find his wife. At the same time, he entrusted the villagers with Daisy's safety. After Whitehall had vivisected Jiaying and Cal found her, he returned to the village to find that Daisy was taken. In a rage he slaughtered everyone in the village.

How Daisy was taken would appear to be a showdown between Hydra and SHIELD. The agent that had secured Sky was found under a bridge. He had bled out from at GSW to the neck. This is where agents Lumley & Avery found Skye, still in the dead agents arms. If Cal was involve is unclear but after returning the agents started getting X'd off. Tortured, then killed probably by Cal. Lumley said whatever killed the parents and all those agents was a force to be reckoned with (S01E12). that was when Avery created fake documents and created a protocol to move Skye every few months, from orphanage to orphanage.
 
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We don't know it's out of his system. Even Coulson himself doesn't know that for sure. He also seemed to be largely oblivious to the Kree impulses. Think of the entire show as a whole from episode 1 through the mid-season finale. Everything was geared towards ultimately sending Skye through the Terrigen Mist. Every decision Coulson made and every action culminated in that singular event. If that isn't being controlled by Kree consciousness, I don't know what is. It might be unlikely, but I would love to see what would happen if Coulson held a Diviner.

coulson had a plan to blow up the city that got put out when skye on her own volition followed raina down the mine shaft. Skyes actions was a variable.
 
coulson had a plan to blow up the city that got put out when skye on her own volition followed raina down the mine shaft. Skyes actions was a variable.

Not really. Skye is an Inhuman and was also fulfilling her Kree destiny. That only bolsters my point that the Kree have been pulling the strings the entire time through people with Kree blood.
 
Not really. Skye is an Inhuman and was also fulfilling her Kree destiny. That only bolsters my point that the Kree have been pulling the strings the entire time through people with Kree blood.
That the events of the show have conspired to force Skye to fulfil her destiny as an Inhuman and undergo Terregenesis demonstrates only the intent of the writers to have it be so, and says nothing necessarily about some guiding Kree influence (which, granted, sounds like the kind of thing the Supreme Intelligence would be behind). Is there a Kree subplot? Absolutely, and I'm enjoying it! Is it coming from some alternate consciousness in Phil's mind? Aside from the etchings, this does not appear to be the case. Most of it (the Diviners, the Temple, the Inhuman bomb) is coming from centuries old Kree relics already on earth.
 
coulson had a plan to blow up the city that got put out when skye on her own volition followed raina down the mine shaft. Skyes actions was a variable.


And Skye being there had nothing to do with Phil .That was down to Ward and Cal (please don't kill him off ) .

Cal was the thing lurking in the background directing it to get Skye down their .And he plainly is not under the influence of the Kree at least

Talking of the GH was Skye's quick heal after similar to the rate her mother would heal ?
 
That the events of the show have conspired to force Skye to fulfil her destiny as an Inhuman and undergo Terregenesis demonstrates only the intent of the writers to have it be so, and says nothing necessarily about some guiding Kree influence (which, granted, sounds like the kind of thing the Supreme Intelligence would be behind). Is there a Kree subplot? Absolutely, and I'm enjoying it! Is it coming from some alternate consciousness in Phil's mind? Aside from the etchings, this does not appear to be the case. Most of it (the Diviners, the Temple, the Inhuman bomb) is coming from centuries old Kree relics already on earth.

Agent May seemed to agree with my hypothesis. She said much the same thing this past episode where Skye being there at all was proof Coulson has gone off the rails. Again, Coulson threw Skye into the paths of Cal and Ward by having her around. I do think the events between Coulson, Cal and Ward were all Kree directed. I also don't think Coulson's Kree infusion arc is all the way done yet either, the writers sure don't think so, given that his alien infusion was part of the basis for the whole "Real-Shield" thing and why they didn't trust him. It's been subtext of the entire TV show from beginning to end. I don't think we'll see the end of it until we see Coulson in physical contact with a Diviner or with a Terrigen Mist. Perhaps Jaiying with try to pull a Gonzales on Coulson and find out he is part inhuman. All of the aforementioned is supported by the events and quotes from the TV show, the only speculation on my part is what Coulson would turn into when exposed. :wall:My assertion is the first Captain Marvel, but he could turn into Squirrel Girl or that fence eating guy for all I know.
 
And Skye being there had nothing to do with Phil .That was down to Ward and Cal (please don't kill him off ) .

Cal was the thing lurking in the background directing it to get Skye down their .And he plainly is not under the influence of the Kree at least

Talking of the GH was Skye's quick heal after similar to the rate her mother would heal ?

Again, Cal and Ward are inhuman/Kree connected. His wife is the Leader of the Inhumans, he is PLAINLY connected to the Kree. Ward only by association with Cal and because he was aware of Skye's inhuman heritage. It again supports my hypothesis that Coulson is part of a greater conspiracy directed by the Kree because Skye would not be connected with Cal or Ward without having been thrown in their path unwittingly by Coulson.
 
Again, Cal and Ward are inhuman/Kree connected. His wife is the Leader of the Inhumans, he is PLAINLY connected to the Kree. Ward only by association with Cal and because he was aware of Skye's inhuman heritage. It again supports my hypothesis that Coulson is part of a greater conspiracy directed by the Kree because Skye would not be connected with Cal or Ward without having been thrown in their path unwittingly by Coulson.


Cal was not in contact with his wife he was off living in a slum in Asia somewhere feeding himself Gorilla testosterone playing with Rayna.

HYDRA started Skye's connection to all this and that was before Whitehall cut Jiaying up and de-aged himself .Cal (who wasn't as far as we know set up on a date with her by Phil) is in it because she is his daughter and he had been looking for her for 20+ years before TAHITI and Philsurrection .Ward selection was down to Hill and May not Phil .


And as far as we know and because he said it Pete The Slightly Judgy (and his tiny truncheon) is the only Kree to know that the Inhumans are still on Earth and he was all burn/slash/kill when he found out .If there was a greater Kree plot would they not have sent their own to stop him interfering ?
 
Cal was not in contact with his wife he was off living in a slum in Asia somewhere feeding himself Gorilla testosterone playing with Rayna.

HYDRA started Skye's connection to all this and that was before Whitehall cut Jiaying up and de-aged himself .Cal (who wasn't as far as we know set up on a date with her by Phil) is in it because she is his daughter and he had been looking for her for 20+ years before TAHITI and Philsurrection .Ward selection was down to Hill and May not Phil .


And as far as we know and because he said it Pete The Slightly Judgy (and his tiny truncheon) is the only Kree to know that the Inhumans are still on Earth and he was all burn/slash/kill when he found out .If there was a greater Kree plot would they not have sent their own to stop him interfering ?

I agree, the evidence to support the theory is flimsy at best. But it's not uncommon for people to embellish the facts to fit the narrative they have in their mind.
 
There are also continuity errors in the series itself. Especially where multiple characters have a different points of view. It's up to us to weed thru the chaff to get to the truth, and conspiracy thoeries abound.
 
cph9fa said:
Actually, now I'm getting confused. Didn't Cal say he didn't begin his... experimentation... until after Skye and Jiaying had been taken from him? If so, I see no reason to think he wouldn't have used a gun. Granted, this also makes the whole talk of "monsters" at Hunan to be a bit of hyperbole. Do I smell a retcon? Hopefully we get answers when we see what happens with Hyde next week.
I thought he had began experimenting after HYDRA took Jiaying, but before SHIELD took Skye. But after reviewing episodes 2.10 and 2.13, your conclusion seems to be correct: Cal seems to link his experimentation to losing Skye. If one goes by his words in 2.10, one ought to conclude Jiaying was dead, so he's not always reliable. Still, with no specific reason to think he was lying or confused, I would say Cal might have shot the agent too.
That said, if Cal had no powers at that point, I would expect that both he and Jiaying would probably fight together, so either of them may have been the shooter - or a HYDRA agent, if the agent who took Skye was not HYDRA.
But you're right that the talk of "monsters" suggested otherwise. That didn't seem to mean "moral monsters", in context.

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cph9fa said:
- A HYDRA leader in SHIELD (Pierce?) orders a team to search for Jiaying (the exact composition of this team, in terms of HYDRA vs. SHIELD is somewhat irrelevant, as they're just following orders, protecting the world from enhanced).
Whitehall already had Jiaying when the team searched for Skye.
 
I thought he had began experimenting after HYDRA took Jiaying, but before SHIELD took Skye. But after reviewing episodes 2.10 and 2.13, your conclusion seems to be correct: Cal seems to link his experimentation to losing Skye. If one goes by his words in 2.10, one ought to conclude Jiaying was dead, so he's not always reliable. Still, with no specific reason to think he was lying or confused, I would say Cal might have shot the agent too.
That said, if Cal had no powers at that point, I would expect that both he and Jiaying would probably fight together, so either of them may have been the shooter - or a HYDRA agent, if the agent who took Skye was not HYDRA.
But you're right that the talk of "monsters" suggested otherwise. That didn't seem to mean "moral monsters", in context.

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Whitehall already had Jiaying when the team searched for Skye.

Yes, and according to Ward in 2.06, the people that got killed were not villagers. They were Hydra agents and when Cal showed up he slaughtered all of them. That would indicate he may have been on the juice at that point. And in 2.10 Cal clearly tells Skye that he left her in the villager's care while going after Jiaying. There are many versions of the story, from different points of view, but I think Cal's version from 2.10 and agent Lumley's from 1.12, hold the most truth.
 
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WhiteWalker said:
The way I understand it, after reviewing (S02E10) is this. Around 1989 Cal and Jiaying were working in his clinic when men showed up and claimed they were SHIELD. They took Jiaying, and Cal chased after them trying to find his wife. At the same time, he entrusted the villagers with Daisy's safety. After Whitehall had vivisected Jiaying and Cal found her, he returned to the village to find that Daisy was taken. In a rage he slaughtered everyone in the village.

How Daisy was taken would appear to be a showdown between Hydra and SHIELD. The agent that had secured Sky was found under a bridge. He had bled out from at GSW to the neck. This is where agents Lumley & Avery found Skye, still in the dead agents arms. If Cal was involve is unclear but after returning the agents started getting X'd off. Tortured, then killed probably by Cal. Lumley said whatever killed the parents and all those agents was a force to be reckoned with (S01E12). that was when Avery created fake documents and created a protocol to move Skye every few months, from orphanage to orphanage.
That's plausible, though there are some issues to work out.
For example, the first team wasn't all Hydra. Otherwise, there was no point in calling a SHIELD team. Also, a full Hydra team would have had no SHIELD agents to fight.
So, the first team was a mixed Hydra/SHIELD team, or a full SHIELD team. That indicates Skye was indeed classified an 0-84 due to Hydra's influence within SHIELD (the only reason SHIELD would be there in the first place would be that Hydra - probably Whitehall - was looking for her).
In that case, I guess if it was a mixed team, Hydra agents began shooting at SHIELD agents to take her. But why not just get back to SHIELD with the 0-84 and then send her elsewhere for experimentation, or just experiment on her there? It seems simpler and safer.
Still, the mixed team seems like a live option.

WhiteWalker said:
There are also continuity errors in the series itself. Especially where multiple characters have a different points of view. It's up to us to weed thru the chaff to get to the truth, and conspiracy thoeries abound.
Good point. Not to mention characters sometimes lie - sometimes even for reasons unknown to the viewers.
 
WhiteWalker said:
Yes, and according to Ward in 2.06, the people that got killed were not villagers. They were Hydra agents and when Cal showed up he slaughtered all of them. That would indicate he may have been on the juice at that point.
It seems Ward got his information on Cal, Skye, etc., only from Raina before being captured by SHIELD, and Raina told him that Skye's parents were the monsters who slaughtered the whole village. In fact, according to Raina in 1.21, "every man, woman and child" was "torn apart".
My guess is Ward lied in order to portray Skye's father in a better light, given that he wanted her to try to find Cal.
Still, your point about the juice stands. Else, how would he manage to do that? And why slaughter everyone, including the innocent?
(of course, Raina's story may have been a lie, or just a false story she got from a third or n-th hand source).

WhiteWalker said:
And in 2.10 Cal clearly tells Skye that he left her in the villager's care while going after Jiaying.
There are many versions of the story, from different points of view, but I think Cal's version from 2.10 and agent Lumley's from 1.12, hold the most truth.
Agreed. But there are some difficulties, like:

The team leader called for backup saying that an entire village had already been slaughtered protecting the 0-84. But if Cal had already done it, why didn't he have Skye? And more importantly, given that Cal had left Skye with the villagers, they wouldn't try to protect her from him and Jiaying, and so he wouldn't take the juice even if he had it.

Maybe there is no solution. ;)
 
I'll admit, I'd completely forgotten Cal had left Skye with the villagers, then came back later -- that there were essentially two events in the village. For some reason I keep conflating them in my mind. Oddly enough, when I was searching the forums here for my past conjectures on this topic, I found an old post where I speculated that there were two different events. Weird.

I need to go back and make a transcription of 2x10 to add to my transcriptions of the other three accounts.

I do think that people tend to overstate the HYDRA vs. SHIELD thing, as, at the time, they were more-or-less the same thing. Any "good" SHIELD agents that were on either team wouldn't have even known about the existence of HYDRA, and would either be simply following orders (potentially morally dubious ones, but that's what SHIELD sometimes has to do), or else fighting what they perceived as fellow SHIELD agents.

It's still my own head-canon that the senior "SHIELD" agent who died "protecting" baby Skye in Lumley's account was, in fact, secretly HYDRA, and was actually in the process of kidnapping her when shot. I don't think I can prove it based on the accounts we have, but it makes too much sense to me to not be the case.

Its also worth remembering that there was a secret SHIELD base in Hunan province named Shangri-La, which had been supposedly shut down decades earlier, but was still known to senior SHIELD agents to be in operation as late as the early 90's. I'm still disappointed we never heard anything more about that.
 
Cal was not in contact with his wife he was off living in a slum in Asia somewhere feeding himself Gorilla testosterone playing with Rayna.?
That's not an assumption stated anywhere. They obviously still have a relationship and we don't know how often Cal and Jaiying have seen one another. There was also a divorce and breakup. Per your statement here, those couldn't have happened!

HYDRA started Skye's connection to all this and that was before Whitehall cut Jiaying up and de-aged himself .Cal (who wasn't as far as we know set up on a date with her by Phil) is in it because she is his daughter and he had been looking for her for 20+ years before TAHITI and Philsurrection .Ward selection was down to Hill and May not Phil .?[/QUOTE said:
Yes, and this has nothing to do with my point that the Kree warrior has been guiding Coulson/Cal/Inhumans for a long time. Ward has connections to both Coulson and Cal, so that actually supports my theory.


And as far as we know and because he said it Pete The Slightly Judgy (and his tiny truncheon) is the only Kree to know that the Inhumans are still on Earth and he was all burn/slash/kill when he found out .If there was a greater Kree plot would they not have sent their own to stop him interfering ?[/QUOTE said:
My thought is that the Kree warrior is acting through Coulson and perhaps through Skye. They both have the same Kree infusion, so it's entirely plausible that both acting independently towards the same ends.
 
I agree, the evidence to support the theory is flimsy at best. But it's not uncommon for people to embellish the facts to fit the narrative they have in their mind.

What embellishments? Coulson and Skye were both injected with the same Kree infusion, why wouldn't they both act towards the same end independently? It seems there is a lot more evidence pointing towards Coulson being enhanced after the Kree cocktail than there is for the ridiculous assertion that Ward is Taskmaster. :loco:

My assertion is simply that the Kree warrior, and perhaps the Kree at large, have been acting through Coulson/Cal/Skye/Inhumans towards a particular goal. The entire show states so, so I fail to see any embellishment here, except that I believe that it is possible that Coulson may be one of the many iterations of Mar-Vell. Heck, Deathlok wasn't Mike Peterson in the comics either. It's not that much of a stretch.
 
cph9fa said:
It's still my own head-canon that the senior "SHIELD" agent who died "protecting" baby Skye in Lumley's account was, in fact, secretly HYDRA, and was actually in the process of kidnapping her when shot. I don't think I can prove it based on the accounts we have, but it makes too much sense to me to not be the case.
It's possible, but I think that option raises some difficult questions as well, like:

1. Why did he call the second SHIELD team, if he was Hydra?
2. He told SHIELD's second team that the whole village had been slaughtered protecting the 0-8-4? Was that true? If so, who slaughtered them? If not, why make up the story?
3. Who shot him, and killed his entire team?
 
It's possible, but I think that option raises some difficult questions as well, like:

1. Why did he call the second SHIELD team, if he was Hydra?
2. He told SHIELD's second team that the whole village had been slaughtered protecting the 0-8-4? Was that true? If so, who slaughtered them? If not, why make up the story?
3. Who shot him, and killed his entire team?

Exactly, my position is, when faced with different accounts of the same situation, you should discount all but first hand knowledge. That means Cal an Lumley, everything else is subjective. They were there, they have told their story from their perspective. There is enough info there to piece it together. If you couple that with what Ward told Skye, and you make a few understandable inferences, it makes a modicum of sense. The way I see it, Whitehall and his cronies visit the village, why????. He recognizes Jiaying from the 40's when he was known as Reinhardt. They take Jiaying and vivisect her. Cal, who's track them down finds her. They return to the village to find Daisy is gone. He proceeds to slaughter everyone in a fit of rage. My assumption at this point is that this happened after daisy was already gone. There was a firefight between the real villagers and SHIELD/HYDRA. The second team was called in by a senior agent who said the villagers had been killed while protecting the 0-8-4. They extracted Skye but started being killed??? Cal??? Lots of room for speculation & conjecture here but that's the jist of it.
 
WhiteWalker,

It's an interesting hypothesis, but there are difficulties. I'm beginning to think there may not be a solution without introducing unknown third parties.

WhiteWalker said:
Exactly, my position is, when faced with different accounts of the same situation, you should discount all but first hand knowledge.
I don't go that far, but I think all other things equal, first-hand accounts are weigh more than second hand accounts, second-hand accounts weigh more than third-hand accounts, and so on.

WhiteWalker said:
If you couple that with what Ward told Skye, and you make a few understandable inferences, it makes a modicum of sense.
As I mentioned, Ward's info apparently came from Raina, but he didn't relay it faithfully. He changed it radically. My hypothesis is that he did that in order to make Cal look better, since he wanted Skye to be interested in finding Cal. But whatever the reason, his words are not a good source - if anything, we should prefer his source; i.e., Raina.

WhiteWalker said:
The way I see it, Whitehall and his cronies visit the village, why????. He recognizes Jiaying from the 40's when he was known as Reinhardt. They take Jiaying and vivisect her.
Actually, Pierce got Whitehall out of prison, in order to study Jiaying, who had already been captured by Hydra (2.08). But the rest is accurate.

WhiteWalker said:
Cal, who's track them down finds her. They return to the village to find Daisy is gone. He proceeds to slaughter everyone in a fit of rage. My assumption at this point is that this happened after daisy was already gone. There was a firefight between the real villagers and SHIELD/HYDRA. The second team was called in by a senior agent who said the villagers had been killed while protecting the 0-8-4. They extracted Skye but started being killed??? Cal??? Lots of room for speculation & conjecture here but that's the jist of it.
He has to patch Jiaying up before returning, but yes, that's possible.
But why would the senior agent tell the second SHIELD team that the entire village has been slaughtered while protecting the 0-8-4?
If Cal only got there and killed them after Skye was gone, then when the senior agent left, the villagers had not been wiped out - rather, the first SHIELD/HYDRA team was, even if one of them managed to take Skye and escape, but mortally wounded.
But that's not how it seems to have gone down, according to Lumley's account. The sequence is:
a. A senior agent calls and says that they have an 0-8-4. He says the entire village died trying to protect it. But he doesn't say who killed them. It's not suggested that he and his team did it - on the contrary, the context seems to indicate otherwise.
b. They lose contact with the first team, so they start searching.
c. They find the senior agent with Skye. He's dead or dying from a GSW to the neck.
d. After they land, they start getting killed. Apparently, Hydra.

But then, if the senior agent was telling the truth, who killed the villagers, and why? And who killed the senior agent?
And if he was lying about the villagers, why would he lie, and what happened to the villagers?
 
WhiteWalker,

It's an interesting hypothesis, but there are difficulties. I'm beginning to think there may not be a solution without introducing unknown third parties.


I don't go that far, but I think all other things equal, first-hand accounts are weigh more than second hand accounts, second-hand accounts weigh more than third-hand accounts, and so on.


As I mentioned, Ward's info apparently came from Raina, but he didn't relay it faithfully. He changed it radically. My hypothesis is that he did that in order to make Cal look better, since he wanted Skye to be interested in finding Cal. But whatever the reason, his words are not a good source - if anything, we should prefer his source; i.e., Raina.


Actually, Pierce got Whitehall out of prison, in order to study Jiaying, who had already been captured by Hydra (2.08). But the rest is accurate.


He has to patch Jiaying up before returning, but yes, that's possible.
But why would the senior agent tell the second SHIELD team that the entire village has been slaughtered while protecting the 0-8-4?
If Cal only got there and killed them after Skye was gone, then when the senior agent left, the villagers had not been wiped out - rather, the first SHIELD/HYDRA team was, even if one of them managed to take Skye and escape, but mortally wounded.
But that's not how it seems to have gone down, according to Lumley's account. The sequence is:
a. A senior agent calls and says that they have an 0-8-4. He says the entire village died trying to protect it. But he doesn't say who killed them. It's not suggested that he and his team did it - on the contrary, the context seems to indicate otherwise.
b. They lose contact with the first team, so they start searching.
c. They find the senior agent with Skye. He's dead or dying from a GSW to the neck.
d. After they land, they start getting killed. Apparently, Hydra.

But then, if the senior agent was telling the truth, who killed the villagers, and why? And who killed the senior agent?
And if he was lying about the villagers, why would he lie, and what happened to the villagers?

According to Lumley, the senior agent said the village was wiped out while protecting the child. They obviously weren't protecting it from it's own father, so it had to be Hydra. So when Cal arrives all that is left is Hydra, not villagers. So Cal kills all the Hydra agents and then goes after the agents that took Skye. He tortured and killed them. In Lumley's own words, "Whatever killed the parents and those agents, was a force to be reckoned with". That statement could be interpreted either way, but since Cal said he left Skye in the care of the villagers and went after Jiaying. I would infer that he was talking about Hydra.
 
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