WhiteWalker,
It's an interesting hypothesis, but there are difficulties. I'm beginning to think there may not be a solution without introducing unknown third parties.
WhiteWalker said:
Exactly, my position is, when faced with different accounts of the same situation, you should discount all but first hand knowledge.
I don't go that far, but I think all other things equal, first-hand accounts are weigh more than second hand accounts, second-hand accounts weigh more than third-hand accounts, and so on.
WhiteWalker said:
If you couple that with what Ward told Skye, and you make a few understandable inferences, it makes a modicum of sense.
As I mentioned, Ward's info apparently came from Raina, but he didn't relay it faithfully. He changed it radically. My hypothesis is that he did that in order to make Cal look better, since he wanted Skye to be interested in finding Cal. But whatever the reason, his words are not a good source - if anything, we should prefer his source; i.e., Raina.
WhiteWalker said:
The way I see it, Whitehall and his cronies visit the village, why????. He recognizes Jiaying from the 40's when he was known as Reinhardt. They take Jiaying and vivisect her.
Actually, Pierce got Whitehall out of prison, in order to study Jiaying, who had already been captured by Hydra (2.08). But the rest is accurate.
WhiteWalker said:
Cal, who's track them down finds her. They return to the village to find Daisy is gone. He proceeds to slaughter everyone in a fit of rage. My assumption at this point is that this happened after daisy was already gone. There was a firefight between the real villagers and SHIELD/HYDRA. The second team was called in by a senior agent who said the villagers had been killed while protecting the 0-8-4. They extracted Skye but started being killed??? Cal??? Lots of room for speculation & conjecture here but that's the jist of it.
He has to patch Jiaying up before returning, but yes, that's possible.
But why would the senior agent tell the second SHIELD team that the entire village has been slaughtered while protecting the 0-8-4?
If Cal only got there and killed them after Skye was gone, then when the senior agent left, the villagers had not been wiped out - rather, the first SHIELD/HYDRA team was, even if one of them managed to take Skye and escape, but mortally wounded.
But that's not how it seems to have gone down, according to Lumley's account. The sequence is:
a. A senior agent calls and says that they have an 0-8-4. He says the entire village died trying to protect it. But he doesn't say who killed them. It's not suggested that he and his team did it - on the contrary, the context seems to indicate otherwise.
b. They lose contact with the first team, so they start searching.
c. They find the senior agent with Skye. He's dead or dying from a GSW to the neck.
d. After they land, they start getting killed. Apparently, Hydra.
But then, if the senior agent was telling the truth, who killed the villagers, and why? And who killed the senior agent?
And if he was lying about the villagers, why would he lie, and what happened to the villagers?