Alba's new comments....

[tedw]

If other actors start earlier, it would only be by a few days. Production in general moves forward from late August (I'd heard Aug 20th).

 

[Hunter Rider]

9 and a half months from opening date they begin filming ? They couldn't finish the effects for the 1st film in the time alloted, now it appears that they will have even less time, with more effects, because they have included the SS. If indeed they are doing some outside or non essential shooting, then that will be a positive. And she said "I" start August the 28th, not that they begin filming Aug. 28th. Mabey she is speaking for herself, and they will start with the other actors before that. Lets hope that they are not going to begin filming from the start on Aug. 28th.

I doubt Jess would start later than the rest given that it sounds as if Sue will have more to do than the others

 

[Carp Man]

I doubt Jess would start later than the rest given that it sounds as if Sue will have more to do than the others

I'm just looking for some light at the end of the dark tunnel I see comming. They seem to be tinkering, trying to fix something that wasn't broke, just needed some fine tuning.

 

[TheDarkestAngel]

You have got assume that since we know that there has been activity in Vancouver already they will shoot stuff without Jess. Remember she is slated to be in the comedy about the Ten Commandments that should start shooting before she is due in Vancouver. Also nobody really has said how close Rodriquez is to begin Sin City 2. He shoots very quickly, so she could also squeeze that it. It does appear this time she isn't going to color her hair, but use a wig. We won't be able to use a change in her hair color to show us how close she maybe to filming. As far as Galactcus wouldn't it make sense that they put him in just a brief appearance at the end of the movie and they make him the main villian for the 3rd film.

 

[Iceburgeruk]

Ok let's disect what exactally she said.

I start [filming] on August 28th, I think, through the fall," "It's going to be a very, very exciting, hot, new, fresh 'Fantastic Four.' We're going to amp up the action, amp up the love interest, amp it all up."

Sounds good.


"I'm the most powerful of the four," "I can kind of do everyone else's powers."

We'll have to see what this statement means.


"There is a little tension between the Silver Surfer and Reed," Of the Surfer, Alba said: "He's a little good and a little bad. So it's just a matter of, 'What does Sue Storm bring — the good or the bad — out of that boy?'"

Is Sue fickle ? Wasn't this issue settled at the end of the movie ? What does the SS bring that could drag her away from Reed ? Power ? Wealth ? The universe ?

Firstly technically she is the most powerful. Reed can stretch. The thing is very strong. The torch is covered in fire. Hardly powers with vast room for growth. The invisibility and force fields of sue on the other hand are the lesser attributes of a far greater ability like Jean Grey and the telekenetics.

The last point isn`t too much of a concern as i doubt that it will remotely resemble the relationship she had between her and doom. It will prob more likely simply be that she sees traits that the surfer and reed both has. All that rubbish. I doubt we will see an actual relationship between her and silvo surfo more prob just a close friendship. It will simply prob though be a little too close a friendship for reed to feel comfortable. Causing dramatic tension and all that schtick. I`d love to see reed try and get the surfer to get lost. Anyone know what melted rubber smells like? And for that matter are cosmic energy decapitations permenant? LOL

 

[Malus]

First off, Sue isn't the most powerful of the team. There is no most powerful member. They all have great power in different ways. For example- the Torch has the most destructive ability. The Thing has the greatest amount of stamina and endurance not to mention brute force. And Reed's abilities allow him to be the most resilient. And then of course, his intelligence makes him the most formidable of the team.

If you put all four of them in an empty parking lot and each was in "bad/evil" mode, out purely to disable or kill the other three, Sue and Johnny would have the edge. If Johnny went Nova quick enough, that would be that. But if Sue took him out first, by materializing a force bubble in the center of his brain and quickly expanding it (which would take about 2 seconds) then game over. (In fact, I'm pretty sure she could do that to all three of them simultaneously.) Yes, Reed is resilient, but he's not flame-proof, and I doubt his brain would automatically stretch that readily if a force bubble the size of an apple suddenly materialized inside it. He'd be knocked out instantly at the very least. As for his intelligence making him the most formidable member, that's probably true, but in this situation there'd be no time to strategize. He'd be unconscious or dead long before he could use that big brain of his.
So barring Johnny going nova instantly, Sue has the edge in my opinion.
And there's nothing PC about that. Her powers have been growing and developing since day one, and John Byrne's "Malice" storyline pretty much makes her most-powerful status official canon.
Doesn't bother me a bit.
And she's still my least favorite FF member.

As for this love triangle thing, it's silly. Is Sue so fickle to be swayed this often and easily? Or are they that desperate to find something for Jessica to do?

I'm hoping they will simply have Sue empathize with the Surfer, just as Alicia did in the original story. Ben became jealous, and its understandable that Reed might as well. I doubt we'll see a true love triangle here.
Remember the Surfer was basically human once, and pines for his long-lost Shalla-Bal. If the Surfer's been leading the Big G to planets populated mostly by lizard and bug creatures, and Sue is the first raelly "female" face
the former Norrin Radd has seen in untold years/centuries/millennia (whatever) then I can see him getting a bit swoony over Sue.

There's little doubt in my mind that they're gonna give the role Alicia played in the original story to Sue/Jessica Alba. It's just too meaty a part to do otherwise. The audience doesn't know Alicia (thanks to the butchering of the first film) so I can't see her getting all that screen time with this flashy new character. And I'm basically okay with that, as long as they do it right. But really, I think we'll be lucky if the Surfer even falls through Alicia's skylight initially.

 

[ang_hulk]

I think shes lieing,I think shes just gaining hype for whats really going to happen,the super skrull shows up.why the hell would she get everyones powers?.I bet shes lieing.

 

[Iceburgeruk]

I think shes lieing,I think shes just gaining hype for whats really going to happen,the super skrull shows up.why the hell would she get everyones powers?.I bet shes lieing.

I expect she means she manipulates the fields to do roughly what the others do.

Reed: She stretches the field and is able to grasp objects from a distant with the field. Thereby simulating Reed`s powers.

Thing: Concentrating her field to make her near invulnerable. Using her field and will to be able to lift heavy objects.

Human Torch: I don`t know about the flame bit. She might be able to simulate something like that, it really depends on the nature of the movie version of her force fields. I expect they shall simply show that she can simulate his ability to fly with her force fields.

I expect though they shall show that at this point she can only do feeble simulations of what they can currently do with there powers so as not to negate the point of the other members of the ff.

 

[Malus]

I think (and hope) you're right.
I can see her creating a Thing-shaped fist to pound someone, creating an invisible arm that reaches for things, and attaining flight the same ways she has in the comics over the years.
We're not going to see her flaming on or covered with orange rock.

I expect she means she manipulates the fields to do roughly what the others do.

Reed: She stretches the field and is able to grasp objects from a distant with the field. Thereby simulating Reed`s powers.

Thing: Concentrating her field to make her near invulnerable. Using her field and will to be able to lift heavy objects.

Human Torch: I don`t know about the flame bit. She might be able to simulate something like that, it really depends on the nature of the movie version of her force fields. I expect they shall simply show that she can simulate his ability to fly with her force fields.

I expect though they shall show that at this point she can only do feeble simulations of what they can currently do with there powers so as not to negate the point of the other members of the ff.

 

[zer00]

ah crap

 

[Iron Maiden]

O Lord, I hope Alba hit her head on the way to that interview and got a little dizzy. I just hate this dredging up of another romantic triangle for Sue, since she and Reed are engaged!! This is worse than her stringling along Victor in the first film - - remember, we never saw her cooling his jets about his interest in her, which comes across as very duplicitious of her. I know the scenes were cut and all but it does not reflect well on what her character should be.

Additionally, it makes me suspect that Kerry Washington's part will get short changed again since Alicia is the one who awakened the Surfer's humanity and got him to turn against Galactus. At least it leaves the door open for Julian to come back if they intend to do full out Doom as Tim Story promised.

 

[zer00]

I feel bad for Story. I do Fox just keeps taking away his ideas and throwing **** at him

 

[GhostPoet]

Sounds like another great movie to me. I loved the first FF movie.
Of course...the hardcore fans who can't stand to see their precious stories/characters altered at all (and yet they don't mind all the many alternative realities that are in comics??) will hate it.

 

[Tron5000]

"Somebody Saveeeee ME!!!"

Don't you mean "Saaaaaaave"? Don't recall an "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" screech anywhere in that song.

 

[Carp Man]

If you put all four of them in an empty parking lot and each was in "bad/evil" mode, out purely to disable or kill the other three, Sue and Johnny would have the edge. If Johnny went Nova quick enough, that would be that. But if Sue took him out first, by materializing a force bubble in the center of his brain and quickly expanding it (which would take about 2 seconds) then game over. (In fact, I'm pretty sure she could do that to all three of them simultaneously.) Yes, Reed is resilient, but he's not flame-proof, and I doubt his brain would automatically stretch that readily if a force bubble the size of an apple suddenly materialized inside it. He'd be knocked out instantly at the very least. As for his intelligence making him the most formidable member, that's probably true, but in this situation there'd be no time to strategize. He'd be unconscious or dead long before he could use that big brain of his.
So barring Johnny going nova instantly, Sue has the edge in my opinion.
And there's nothing PC about that. Her powers have been growing and developing since day one, and John Byrne's "Malice" storyline pretty much makes her most-powerful status official canon.
Doesn't bother me a bit.
And she's still my least favorite FF member.

Love your thinking there, but the reality of the situation is. If they are each at one corner of the parking lot. And if they are each hell bent on killing the others. Johnny flames on, and goes nova, and flys. Game over. Reeds toast. Ben's toast. And Sue is also toast. Unless Sue can get her force shild up quickley enough to envelop Johnny, while he's in super nova form, if she can catch him. Johnny burns up, game over, Sue wins. The flying gives Johnny a huge advantage.

 

[Tony Stark]

Sounds like another great movie to me. I loved the first FF movie.
Of course...the hardcore fans who can't stand to see their precious stories/characters altered at all (and yet they don't mind all the many alternative realities that are in comics??) will hate it.

I agree with you 100%. I didn't mind the changes in Doom in the first movie. It gave Doom a complete story arc, and you see the changes take place in Victor to when he becomes Doom, you know you're in for it.

I also don't consider it a deviation from the comic, when it was a blending of the Ultimate Doom and classic Doom.

The only downside for me, was I wished he had more time on screen behind the mask.

 

[Carp Man]

I agree with you 100%. I didn't mind the changes in Doom in the first movie. It gave Doom a complete story arc, and you see the changes take place in Victor to when he becomes Doom, you know you're in for it.

I also don't consider it a deviation from the comic, when it was a blending of the Ultimate Doom and classic Doom.

The only downside for me, was I wished he had more time on screen behind the mask.

You must be an Ultimate FF lover. The Ultimate FF are not the FF, that those of us over 50 grew to know and love. The original has worked for over 40 years. No need to change now. They have pimped out the FF in order to sell comics. They have sold them down the rive, and I said it before and I'll say it again, if they go the Ultimate route, they will lose the fan base that made the FF what they are. At least this fan. Jack "King" Kirby must be spinning in his grave. If I don't like what I see, then I'll wait till the DVD, if then. I won't even pay 50 cents to go see it. Mark that down, and book it.

 

[Dragon]

If you put all four of them in an empty parking lot and each was in "bad/evil" mode, out purely to disable or kill the other three, Sue and Johnny would have the edge. If Johnny went Nova quick enough, that would be that. But if Sue took him out first, by materializing a force bubble in the center of his brain and quickly expanding it (which would take about 2 seconds) then game over. (In fact, I'm pretty sure she could do that to all three of them simultaneously.) Yes, Reed is resilient, but he's not flame-proof, and I doubt his brain would automatically stretch that readily if a force bubble the size of an apple suddenly materialized inside it. He'd be knocked out instantly at the very least. As for his intelligence making him the most formidable member, that's probably true, but in this situation there'd be no time to strategize. He'd be unconscious or dead long before he could use that big brain of his.
So barring Johnny going nova instantly, Sue has the edge in my opinion.
And there's nothing PC about that. Her powers have been growing and developing since day one, and John Byrne's "Malice" storyline pretty much makes her most-powerful status official canon.
Doesn't bother me a bit.
And she's still my least favorite FF member.

The edge goes to Thing and Johnny actually. First off, in the effort to make up for Sue's being "the hostage" early on, her powers were made to be ridiculous- like when she made a bunch of force marbles to trip up the Thing in FF #266. She can project force fields. Okay. But if her focus were disrupted, by say Ben causing a shockwave, she'd be toast. And the thing about expanding a forcefield particle in someone's head? Reed could do that physically, and more easily than Sue. Her brain isn't exactly super fast. But Reed can move superfast.

As for the Malice thing- like I said, put any member of the FF in villain mode- ESPECIALLY Reed or Johnny- and they'd be as bad or worse than Sue as Malice. Johnny could incinerate a city in minutes. Reed, with his knowledge, turned evil would be near godlike.

And like I said, it's just pretentiousness to place Sue in front of the others. Why can't they simply be equal? They were all exposed for the same length of time, under the same conditions. You saying Sue's powers have been growing since day one does nothing to say that the the others powers haven't also been growing. We know the Thing is many times more powerful than he was in te early days. You put too much stock in Byrne's run. He came up with ALOT of bad ideas. Splitting up Ben & Alicia. Making Aunt Petunia younger than Ben. Sometimes his attempts at being clever (See the Spidey re-boot) generate his worst ideas.

I'm hoping they will simply have Sue empathize with the Surfer, just as Alicia did in the original story. Ben became jealous, and its understandable that Reed might as well. I doubt we'll see a true love triangle here.
Remember the Surfer was basically human once, and pines for his long-lost Shalla-Bal. If the Surfer's been leading the Big G to planets populated mostly by lizard and bug creatures, and Sue is the first raelly "female" face
the former Norrin Radd has seen in untold years/centuries/millennia (whatever) then I can see him getting a bit swoony over Sue.

There's little doubt in my mind that they're gonna give the role Alicia played in the original story to Sue/Jessica Alba. It's just too meaty a part to do otherwise. The audience doesn't know Alicia (thanks to the butchering of the first film) so I can't see her getting all that screen time with this flashy new character. And I'm basically okay with that, as long as they do it right. But really, I think we'll be lucky if the Surfer even falls through Alicia's skylight initially.

But, based on the approach with the first film, you know that they won't go the subtle route. The very fact that Jess is talking "love triangle" suggests the heavy-handed soap opera BS that we got in the first film. and worst- based on te handling of Doom- can you imagine how corny and cheezy the Surfer is going to be? Good lord.

The films are in the hands of very simple-minded people who can't see the potential of the franchise.

 

[Malus]

The edge goes to Thing and Johnny actually. First off, in the effort to make up for Sue's being "the hostage" early on, her powers were made to be ridiculous- like when she made a bunch of force marbles to trip up the Thing in FF #266. She can project force fields. Okay. But if her focus were disrupted, by say Ben causing a shockwave, she'd be toast. And the thing about expanding a forcefield particle in someone's head? Reed could do that physically, and more easily than Sue. Her brain isn't exactly super fast. But Reed can move superfast.

As for the Malice thing- like I said, put any member of the FF in villain mode- ESPECIALLY Reed or Johnny- and they'd be as bad or worse than Sue as Malice. Johnny could incinerate a city in minutes. Reed, with his knowledge, turned evil would be near godlike.

And like I said, it's just pretentiousness to place Sue in front of the others. Why can't they simply be equal? They were all exposed for the same length of time, under the same conditions. You saying Sue's powers have been growing since day one does nothing to say that the the others powers haven't also been growing. We know the Thing is many times more powerful than he was in the early days. You put too much stock in Byrne's run. He came up with ALOT of bad ideas. Splitting up Ben & Alicia. Making Aunt Petunia younger than Ben. Sometimes his attempts at being clever (See the Spidey re-boot) generate his worst ideas.

I agree with a lot of your points, I just think that put in that situation, Sue's first act would be to materialize those force bubbles instantly and explode the others' heads. To do the same, Reed would have to physically move to enter someone's orifice (eww) and in the time that took, Sue would have already done her thing.
I'm not sure how long it takes Johnny to go from zero to nova, but as long as Sue has a force field erected at the same time she's creating those death bubbles, I think she'd take him out before he could build up to nova.
Ever since Sue made a threat to do just that to Dr. Doom in the MK mini-series FF:1234, I've been convinced. It made perfect sense. Sue can kill anyone made of flesh in a fraction of a second.
But it's all wonderfully debatable.

I couldn't agree more with you about Byrne splitting up Ben & Alicia. That's one bad move that has been allowed to stand for WAY to long now:It's 22 years now (real time) that they've been apart!
It's been looking like Dan Slott's slowly getting them back together in his excellent THING series, but apparently that book is getting canceled next month at issue #8.
Ben and Alicia belong back together. I sure hope they give Slott's book a properly promoted relaunch. I'm usually cynical about re-boots, but I'm all for giving this book a second chance. I've really enjoyed his writing, especially the current issue, which features a lot of really clever and heart-felt dialogue between Ben and his blind ex-love. I wouldn't mind seeing Slott write the regular FF book. He certainly seems to have a better feel for all the FF cast of characters than just about any other writer I know of right now.

The films are in the hands of very simple-minded people who can't see the potential of the franchise.

Yeah, I think that's apparently been the case thus far.
I'm just hoping they surprise us.

 

[Grog]

Couple of things come to mind...They are putting Malice in the mix as was suggested by a few posters.

The love triangle is just Reed getting jealous and misinterpreting Sue's desire to help the Surfer.-- Same as happened to Ben and Alicia.

The Surfer is a villian initially. Whether it is because Galactus has altered his mind or not, he's navigating for a fella thats coming to destroy the earth. Alicia in the books finds his noble side, and I'm sure Sue does the same in the film.

All of you that complained that Sue's role was diminished in the first film have to appreciate that by these indications she will be a larger part of the 2nd story. As far as the Surfer needing his own movie to be introduced, he was introduced in the FF comics quite nicely. A solo Surfer origin movie ends with him as a villian, sure its a tragedy, but not a full circle story either. Finally,
I'd add that the Surfer and Galactus leave opened the possibility that they can mutate Ben further to the Thing we all love.

I think I'm one of five people that are excited about the storyline and Galactus trilogy coming to film. I think it will be a blast.

 

[Tony Stark]

You must be an Ultimate FF lover. The Ultimate FF are not the FF, that those of us over 50 grew to know and love. The original has worked for over 40 years. No need to change now. They have pimped out the FF in order to sell comics. They have sold them down the rive, and I said it before and I'll say it again, if they go the Ultimate route, they will lose the fan base that made the FF what they are. At least this fan. Jack "King" Kirby must be spinning in his grave. If I don't like what I see, then I'll wait till the DVD, if then. I won't even pay 50 cents to go see it. Mark that down, and book it.

I like some of the Ultimate line. I like the Ultimates alot, and Ultimate Iron Man. Ultimate FF is OK. I hate Ultimate Spider-man.

I grew up on the classics (I'm 34 by the way), so I do like the classics better.

However, for the movie I understood why they did the melding of the two Dooms. For one, it's easier in an origin driven movie, to have a single point of origin for all the characters.

Secondly it was brilliant in that they had to develop a reason for the FF to go to space other than "we have to beat the commies!" Having Reed and Victor work together was brilliant, and underscored the rivalry that is at the heart of their characters, especially in the classic FF.

But the fact is they kept enough of the classic Doom to keep it from being too Ultimate. For instance they kept the scar, which I thought was great. When Victor finally puts on the mask, his face isn't totally deformed which I thought was also great.

The fact is when doing movies, things are going to change. You haven't seen a single comic book movie that hasn't deviated from the comics in some way. Some like X-men: The Last Stand, go too far. Fantastic Four caught the right balance. While it's not my favorite superhero movie, I still like it alot, and is one of the few that I don't mind watching several times.

 

[Carp Man]

Couple of things come to mind...They are putting Malice in the mix as was suggested by a few posters.

The love triangle is just Reed getting jealous and misinterpreting Sue's desire to help the Surfer.-- Same as happened to Ben and Alicia.

The Surfer is a villian initially. Whether it is because Galactus has altered his mind or not, he's navigating for a fella thats coming to destroy the earth. Alicia in the books finds his noble side, and I'm sure Sue does the same in the film.

All of you that complained that Sue's role was diminished in the first film have to appreciate that by these indications she will be a larger part of the 2nd story. As far as the Surfer needing his own movie to be introduced, he was introduced in the FF comics quite nicely. A solo Surfer origin movie ends with him as a villian, sure its a tragedy, but not a full circle story either. Finally,
I'd add that the Surfer and Galactus leave opened the possibility that they can mutate Ben further to the Thing we all love.

I think I'm one of five people that are excited about the storyline and Galactus trilogy coming to film. I think it will be a blast.

Let us all hope your right. If it's done RIGHT, it can work quite well. Sue dimished role in 1st film ? Thought she did quite allright.

 

[Grog]

Let us all hope your right. If it's done RIGHT, it can work quite well. Sue dimished role in 1st film ? Thought she did quite allright.

I just meant that the film was more focused on the torch and thing for character development. Just my opinion, but I thought Sue and Reed were left in the background a bit.

 

[Carp Man]

I like some of the Ultimate line. I like the Ultimates alot, and Ultimate Iron Man. Ultimate FF is OK. I hate Ultimate Spider-man.

I grew up on the classics (I'm 34 by the way), so I do like the classics better.

However, for the movie I understood why they did the melding of the two Dooms. For one, it's easier in an origin driven movie, to have a single point of origin for all the characters.

Secondly it was brilliant in that they had to develop a reason for the FF to go to space other than "we have to beat the commies!" Having Reed and Victor work together was brilliant, and underscored the rivalry that is at the heart of their characters, especially in the classic FF.

But the fact is they kept enough of the classic Doom to keep it from being too Ultimate. For instance they kept the scar, which I thought was great. When Victor finally puts on the mask, his face isn't totally deformed which I thought was also great.

The fact is when doing movies, things are going to change. You haven't seen a single comic book movie that hasn't deviated from the comics in some way. Some like X-men: The Last Stand, go too far. Fantastic Four caught the right balance. While it's not my favorite superhero movie, I still like it alot, and is one of the few that I don't mind watching several times.

I'm 51. Bit older then you are. My 1st FF comic was FF # 37. However, I can agree on a few points. Betting the commies to space, was outdated, and np with that change. Doom I totatly disagreed with. The look was good. Dialog left much to be desired. Marco Polo, this is going to be fun, ect. This version of Dr. Doom being as physicaly strong as The Thing was totally out of charactor with the original Dr. Doom. Dr. Doom tried to defeat the FF with his suprior intelect, not brute force. When The Thing clobberd you, you didn't get up. And the scene where he booted him out of the back of the truck Allthough the way the scene was played out, it wouldn't have worked as well the other way around. And did Doom actually think he was going to kill Ben with a hollow, round, metal piece of a lamp post ? Please. Doom was my bigest problem with the 1st movie. That and the fact that they tried to pawn Sue off as head of bio genetic research. Give me a break. Other then that I loved the movie, as a whole. It was fun, entertaining, and Chilkis, and Evans did a great job with the Johnny, Ben act.

 

[Tron5000]

I've never really been a FF fan (grew up reading Superman, Spidey, and Archie), but I have read a few issues. I didn't see the first one in the theater, but I bought the DVD for $10 at Blockbuster. I was pleasantly surprised. I heard how much the film "sucked," so I didn't want to go see it at the theater, but when I watched it on DVD, it was a very enjoyable flick. I can't speak to the differences between the film and the comics (mostly a DC fan), but I am very excited to hear that I will be able to see the Surfer on screen. I read more Surfer than FF, and I agree with several of the previous posts that this is the best way to introduce Norrin. I don't feel that a Surfer movie would hold up to the budget that would be required without introducing him in another film. The general public is just not familiar enough with the character. However, if this film does well and people identify with the Surfer, then Marvel may be setting up a potential (spinoff?) franchise in an interesting manner.