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[Boy Scout]

Yeah but i don't like the notion of the Justice League getting defeated in their first team battle.

Well, with it being their first team battle, they wouldn't necessarily know how to work together as a cohesive unit. Against someone like Darkseid, it makes sense that they would be defeated. But I understand where you're coming from.

 

[jokesonm3]

He did say that and that's the most likely scenario for him sending someone to Earth to find out what's happening.

I want the codex to play a role in this though and the only people that know about it are in the Phantom Zone.

Unless years before Krypton's destruction, Kandor was already taken and bottled up years ago, Brainiac downloaded all their information including politicians and scientists and learned about the Codex that way.

 

[jokesonm3]

Well, with it being their first team battle, they wouldn't necessarily know how to work together as a cohesive unit. Against someone like Darkseid, it makes sense that they would be defeated. But I understand where you're coming from.

Unless they go all Justice League War on us and at the end of part one Superman is captured and the Heroes fall, until Green Lantern finally arrives at earth, the rest of em free Superman from Darkseid's grip and they unite the seven to defeat Darkseid, i'd be cool with that.

 

[Rorschach2012]

JL1: Legion of Doom

JL2: Darkseid

do it snyder, c'mon fam

That would be awesome.

But Darkseid, the Justice League, and the New Gods can easily provide 2 movies of material. 2 Justice League movies about Darkseid and the New Gods could be like space Lord of the Rings or something. Truly epic fantasy. It's not necessarily a brand new or original story, but it's a classic clash of good vs evil told in a fresh way through the lens of the DC universe.

 

[Marz69]

You know back in Man of Steel when Superman entered the scout ship first and activated a signal that Zod and his crew intercepted.

What if others like Brainiac or Darkseid also intercepted that signal?

Well now they know that not only is the last Kryptonian on earth but he holds the knowledge of his entire species within him, including the Anti-Life Equation?

I actually think this is the case. It wouldn't surprise me if BvS begins with Kal-El turning on the ship before flying it away. We'll see a planet beyond Zod intercept it even if we are not introduced to whom it is until JL

 

[jokesonm3]

However since there's a year and a half difference between Justice League films, kinda like Star Wars Episodes 7 & 8 (before they moved Episode 8 up), i wouldn't mind it if it's two separate Justice League films rather than a two parter film.

 

[BH/HHH]

canon is canon, like firefly now

We shall see

No worries.

They've probably just ballsed the email up. We're getting it on March 25th.

Spoiler

I hope.

lol remember how Odeon also said on late April aswell, they probably flubbed it up too.

I bloody hope it's just an error folks lol I've emailed them anyway

However since there's a year and a half difference between Justice League films, kinda like Star Wars Episodes 7 & 8 (before they moved Episode 8 up), i wouldn't mind it if it's two separate Justice League films rather than a two parter film.

I hope it is, I don't want it to be one big film, would rather have two separate stories.

JL1: Legion of Doom

JL2: Darkseid

do it snyder, c'mon fam

Yes, yes a thousand times yes

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

Unless they go all Justice League War on us and at the end of part one Superman is captured and the Heroes fall, until Green Lantern finally arrives at earth, the rest of em free Superman from Darkseid's grip and they unite the seven to defeat Darkseid, i'd be cool with that.

That's almost guaranteed to happen IMO.

 

[OtherwiseKnownAs]

I really hope the DCEU doesn't flub Darkseid up. Too many times Darkseid has just been "really strong, really evil dude." when he is absolutely more than that. He is the most corrupting force in the DCU. The root of it all. I hope they go with Morrisons' interpretation over Johns' or even DCAU. I love the DCAU but it did perpetuate the myth that Darkseid is a Superman villain, when really Supes should be well-below DS's power level.

 

[jokesonm3]

Btw after BvS ends, i am really hoping for an end credit tease that teases Darkseid, something like this:

The scene goes to Apokolips and the citizens of that planet are chanting "HAIL DARKSEID!" until it cuts to Darkseid himself sitting on his throne and looking at a projection of earth, and Desaad approaching him saying "We have found the Anti-Life Equation my liege, it is on a young primitive planet the natives call... earth" which ends with Darkseid saying "Prepare for War".

I would scream if that happens.

 

[Rorschach2012]

What should the Legion of Doom lineup be?

If they do Legion of Doom, leading into Darkseid, the story should be inspired by the Rock of Ages JLA storyline.

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

However since there's a year and a half difference between Justice League films, kinda like Star Wars Episodes 7 & 8 (before they moved Episode 8 up), i wouldn't mind it if it's two separate Justice League films rather than a two parter film.

We need to keep track of how they talk about the two films. The terms "Part 1" and "Part 2" have been missing as of late from interviews and stories done on DC Films. They may have changed it up. Something to monitor at the very least.

 

[jokesonm3]

I really hope the DCEU doesn't flub Darkseid up. Too many times Darkseid has just been "really strong, really evil dude." when he is absolutely more than that. He is the most corrupting force in the DCU. The root of it all. I hope they go with Morrisons' interpretation over Johns' or even DCAU. I love the DCAU but it did perpetuate the myth that Darkseid is a Superman villain, when really Supes should be well-below DS's power level.

It's Snyder were talking here, now while not everyones a fan of his work, you gotta respect his comic book accuracy, believe me we won't get a muscled bound killing machine lol.

 

[Da-Scribe]

Well, with it being their first team battle, they wouldn't necessarily know how to work together as a cohesive unit. Against someone like Darkseid, it makes sense that they would be defeated. But I understand where you're coming from.

I can get down with them losing. That would immediately set the DCEU apart from what we're seeing with Fox as well as the MCU. And it doesn't have to be a clear victory for the bad guys. Maybe losing could've been part of Batman's ultimate plan for the JL to win. Could serve as a drama beat in Part 2, with the JL dealing with not be able to trust Batman.

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

What should the Legion of Doom lineup be?

If they do Legion of Doom, leading into Darkseid, the story should be inspired by the Rock of Ages JLA storyline.

JLA Vol 1 15 was one of the comics Jesse bought when he was at a comic store in Manhattan a couple weeks ago.

Injustice Gang is a possibility.

 

[jokesonm3]

We need to keep track of how they talk about the two films. The terms "Part 1" and "Part 2" have been missing as of late from interviews and stories done on DC Films. They may have changed it up. Something to monitor at the very least.

I did notice that too, hopefully they'll give us the official titles at SDCC this year while they promote, Wonder Woman and the Justice League.

And give us Green Lantern casting of course.

 

[Da-Scribe]

Btw after BvS ends, i am really hoping for an end credit tease that teases Darkseid, something like this:

The scene goes to Apokolips and the citizens of that planet are chanting "HAIL DARKSEID!" until it cuts to Darkseid himself sitting on his throne and looking at a projection of earth, and Desaad approaching him saying "We have found the Anti-Life Equation my liege, it is on a young primitive planet the natives call... earth" which ends with Darkseid saying "Prepare for War".

I would scream if that happens.

It sounds like the DoFP and Avengers after credits scenes spliced together. Not a criticism, just an observation.

 

[jokesonm3]

It sounds like the DoFP and Avengers after credits scenes spliced together. Not a criticism, just an observation.

Yeah im sure Terrio's gonna writ something better than that.

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

It sounds like the DoFP and Avengers after credits scenes spliced together. Not a criticism, just an observation.

I'm willing to bet something that I'll never end up paying up that there will be no end credit scene with DC Films.

 

[Da-Scribe]

I'm willing to bet something that I'll never end up paying up that there will be no end credit scene with DC Films.

Most likely the case, especially with Ayer's quote about that kinda thing. I'm thinking we're just getting movies that have a lot of nods to the larger plot of the DCEU.

 

[jokesonm3]

I'm willing to bet something that I'll never end up paying up that there will be no end credit scene with DC Films.

Well they're gonna need one if their going to connect all these films together.

Plus Snyder wanted an end credit scene for Man of Steel which involved Bruce Wayne receiving a shipment of Kryptonite until Nolan shot that idea down.

And now Nolan's got nothing to do with BvS or the DCEU's films.

 

[BH/HHH]

What should the Legion of Doom lineup be?

If they do Legion of Doom, leading into Darkseid, the story should be inspired by the Rock of Ages JLA storyline.

I think it has to be a line up not to crazy, like the Superfriends version had Brianiac and Bizarro I don't think either of those would fit the movie universe version. Of course it should be led by Lex, so I'd say:

Lex Luthor
Professor Crane aka The Scarecrow
Cheetah
Captain Cold
The Toyman
Black Manta
Solomon Grundy

 

[Forever Evil]

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[Unbreakable Lex]

Well they're gonna need one if their going to connect all these films together.

That's the difference between DC Films and Marvel.

Marvel makes stand alone movies with a few story elements to interconnect. They've created and leaned on the after-credit scene as a sort of gimmick to get people excited about what's coming.

DC Films has made it very clear that they are approaching their film Universe as a serialized drama. All movies are connected because it's one big story. Think of Lost or other serialized TV shows. Those episodes connect just fine without some after credit scene.

Plus Snyder wanted an end credit scene for Man of Steel which involved Bruce Wayne receiving a shipment of Kryptonite until Nolan shot that idea down.

And now Nolan's got nothing to do with BvS or the DCEU's films.

Too late now. Man of Steel didn't have one. The rest shouldn't either. Let Marvel have the end-credit scenes. It's their thing.

 

[Da-Scribe]

Well they're gonna need one if their going to connect all these films together.

Plus Snyder wanted an end credit scene for Man of Steel which involved Bruce Wayne receiving a shipment of Kryptonite until Nolan shot that idea down.

And now Nolan's got nothing to do with BvS or the DCEU's films.

That's pretty highly debatable. They can certainly just lay the foundation within the films themselves.