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[BH/HHH]

How cloning works: Acquire DNA of a specimen --> Clone said specimen.

How SHH Bizarro-proponents think cloning works: Acquire Zod's body for DNA --> Clone comes out of Superman, for some inexplicable reason (third step?? --> Evolves into Doomsday).

 

[Baneis8feettall]

That's just superman with intense look when he is fighting against Batman.. Lightning makes him look blue-ish & darker eyes etc. at fight night.

 

[Clark-Kent]

But it is solely based on shots of Superman grimacing. It's not exactly compelling evidence.

That's not true at all. I'm quite familiar with Superman being angry in other mediums. Take one of the examples of the kneeling before Lex scene. I outlined that he didn't appear sick or weak from kryptonite. I indicated the hand movement of Lex, almost seeming in care of his creation. The kneeling reminded me somewhat of following command in that instance of scene... etc. None of it is evidence anyways. It's theorizing/speculating for those who like to have fun and haven't had their imagination sucked out their soul

 

[Rapunzel]

But there's just as much evidence there won't be a clone/bizzaro. More so, really. In fact, I'd go as far as to say the Knightmare scene proves there won't be a clone/bizzaro. If evil Supes is going to be in that vision/dream, why would he need to be seen again as a clone/bizzaro?

 

[rogbngp]

But there's just as much evidence there won't be a clone/bizzaro. More so, really. In fact, I'd go as far as to say the Knightmare scene proves there won't be a clone/bizzaro. If evil Supes is going to be in that vision/dream, why would he need to be seen again as a clone/bizzaro?

To play devil's advocate here, the nightmare would be a concentrated image of the evil clone's behavior out in the world, shaped also by Batman's fears of the overlord Superman could become.

 

[Tensor]

How cloning works: Acquire DNA of a specimen --> Clone said specimen.

How SHH Bizarro-proponents think cloning works: Acquire Zod's body for DNA --> Clone comes out of Superman, for some inexplicable reason (third step?? --> Evolves into Doomsday).

Seriously. I'm in fits right now.

 

[mohoo]

I'm 100% sure that's not Bizarro.

And I don't think they'll ever use Bizarro. Especially after using Zod's body in that way.

Bizarro doesn't fit with the story we see in the trailers. More so, there's barely enough time for BvS, Lex, Doomsday and other JL members in the movie.

Superman looks different here just like he looks different in the other material we got.

They try to show elements of maturity and confrontation. And sometimes they don't do a perfect job.

 

[Black Narcissus]

 

[Forever Evil]

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I am kinda wondering if Supes will just let Batman punch himself out, take everything Bruce dishes out and then simply is like, "Alright... Got that out of your system? Good... My turn."

 

[Baneis8feettall]

I am kinda wondering if Supes will just let Batman punch himself out, take everything Bruce dishes out and then simply is like, "Alright... Got that out of your system? Good... My turn."

lol..like Ali vs Foreman.

 

[Rorschach2012]

If Marvel wanted to be mean and if they got the rights to Namor, they could do a movie featuring characters that are very similar to DC's Justice League.

Superman/Captain America
Batman/Black Panther
Wonder Woman/Ms Marvel
Aquaman/Namor
The Flash/Spider-Man
Green Lantern/Star Lord
Martian Manhunter/Vision

 

[morningmimosa]

If Marvel wanted to be mean and if they got the rights to Namor, they could do a movie featuring characters that are very similar to DC's Justice League.

Superman/Captain America
Batman/Black Panther
Wonder Woman/Ms Marvel
Aquaman/Namor
The Flash/Spider-Man
Green Lantern/Star Lord
Martian Manhunter/Vision

Even the blindest fanboys would have to admit that they just copied the JL line up tho.

 

[DeadPresident]

If Marvel wanted to be mean and if they got the rights to Namor, they could do a movie featuring characters that are very similar to DC's Justice League.

Superman/Captain America
Batman/Black Panther
Wonder Woman/Ms Marvel
Aquaman/Namor
The Flash/Spider-Man
Green Lantern/Star Lord
Martian Manhunter/Vision

...You mean their "creative" model since like...the fifties?

 

[matt47]

The context of some scenes is unknown at this point. The way Superman was kneeling to Lex, and the way Lex positioned his hand on his head in "almost" care was the first scene I really thought it could have been a possibility towards the clone theory. There are other possibilities to the scene, but it was hard for me to not consider how this came across.

It just strikes me as almost the Star Wars sith like control, where he kneels to the master so to speak awaiting command.

Obviously it could have a totally different context and that's not a clone as well. I stand by the idea that it's worth speculation though for fun.

Well we see Lois talking to Lex up there, probably earlier and he gets her to lure Superman over and then either uses Kryptonite or has already taken Lois hostage somewhere else.

 

[BH/HHH]

Seriously. I'm in fits right now.

Me too

These never get old

I am kinda wondering if Supes will just let Batman punch himself out, take everything Bruce dishes out and then simply is like, "Alright... Got that out of your system? Good... My turn."

Kind of like Ali when he fought Foreman "is that all you got?"

 

[Greenians]

lol..like Ali vs Foreman.

Not George foreman. That boxer is far too small to even be confused with foreman. Michael dokes.

 

[Jaxon]

I think that: It does not have to be traditional Bizarro. It could be Superman clone as part of the story controlled by Lex. The editing could be bits of real Superman and bits of cloned Superman where they purposely have it ambiguous enough, to not always know which is which in the situation/encounters shown in footage thus far.

There will be no cloning of Superman or his suit. That's lazy writing if it is and not Chris Terrios style.

 

[Baneis8feettall]

If Marvel wanted to be mean and if they got the rights to Namor, they could do a movie featuring characters that are very similar to DC's Justice League.

Superman/Captain America
Batman/Black Panther
Wonder Woman/Ms Marvel
Aquaman/Namor
The Flash/Spider-Man
Green Lantern/Star Lord
Martian Manhunter/Vision

And they would still be a tribute band.

They can be opener for Justice League.

 

[Jaxon]

Yeah, that is a very weird scene to me. It would bother me if Superman is being extorted by Lex because he's holding either Lois or Martha (or both) hostage. For Lex to be using Kryptonite on Supes there also doesn't quite read right to me.

I don't think that scene is Supes kneeling to Lex. I think Supes was hunched over after something terrible happened and Lex comes over with some victory smirk which draws the angry face. I suspect Stupes stands up has some words then takes off.

 

[Marvolo]

The context of some scenes is unknown at this point. The way Superman was kneeling to Lex, and the way Lex positioned his hand on his head in "almost" care was the first scene I really thought it could have been a possibility towards the clone theory. There are other possibilities to the scene, but it was hard for me to not consider how this came across.

It just strikes me as almost the Star Wars sith like control, where he kneels to the master so to speak awaiting command.

Obviously it could have a totally different context and that's not a clone as well. I stand by the idea that it's worth speculation though for fun.

Considering the look on Kal's face, I'm guessing this is the real Superman. Would an evil clone be looking at Lex like he is disgusted and enraged by him? My guess is Kal is enraged by what Lex has done, is doing, or is about to do. Kryptonite may be involved somehow, but I don't get the impression that is not the real Kal.

 

[Baneis8feettall]

Not George foreman. That boxer is far too small to even be confused with foreman. Michael dokes.

My bad. Well, at least it makes more sense since George Foreman was more like Doomsday on ring.

 

[Lily Adler]

So VSP has this commercial that is somewhat humorous where a man who got new glasses looks like Clark Kent and the girl with him looks like Amy's Lois Lane and the references keep piling on.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I think he got confused.

"You killed Robin, now I'm going to kill you"
"That's so childish, I killed Robin, you kill me.
You won't hit a guy with glasses, would you?"
*Fist to the teeth*
"OOWWW"
"Protective gloves. You did not think good enough when you covered your teeth with metal, your gum hurts real bad now."

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

What is VSP?