All Things DCEU News, Discussion, and Speculation - Part 4

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By doing it you’d build towards it better. Where would you go from there? You introduce something new and maybe don’t waste Ultron the way they did it!
instead, you would have wasted Thanos the way they wasted Ultron.
I don't see how that is better.
Also, that would have meant having Infinity Stones as McGuffins in every single Phase II movie, including Winter Soldier and IM3. What a sh***y, repetitive form of storytelling would that have been? The audience would have lost interest in the universe by the time GotG opened.
It is simply not a smart idea to have Thanos that early, it is almost as bad as introducing your main superhero-team through desktop icons
 
How much do we think Aquaman will suffer as a result of the Justice League debacle ? Or will the GA and those that stayed away, simply climb back on board for AQM in the winter ?
 
I think a good trailer will win them over. WW certainly didn't suffer from the BvS debacle. On the other hand, Gal was the breakout star of BvS. Mamoa didn't get that kind of love from his JL appearance, but if the Aquaman production is good it has a chance, they just need to make sure to deliver a good movie and worry less about the money it's going to make.
 
Wonder Woman movie had lot riding on the shoulders of Chris Pine and Gal Gadot because while Robin Wright, Connie Nielsen and David Thewlis are well known in UK and US, they are not as well known actors in rest of the world.

Aquaman movie has better star power (Jason Momoa, Nicole Kidman, Amber Herd, Patrick Wilson, Wilem Dafoe, Dolph Lungren, Temura Morrison) which should help it.
 
Warner Bros. Taps Walter Hamada to Oversee DC Films Production (EXCLUSIVE)

As part of a shakeup of its DC film operations, Warner Bros. is promoting Walter Hamada to oversee its comic book movies, Variety has learned. Insiders say that Hamada will essentially serve as president of production in charge of the DC movies. In December, the studio decided to replace Jon Berg and Geoff Johns as the heads of the DC movies. Berg became a production partner with Roy Lee, the producer of “The Lego Movie” and “It,” who has a deal on the lot. Johns remains at DC, but is taking on more of an advisory role.

The move comes as DC is looking for more quality control of its big screen efforts — the studio captured acclaim and box office bonanza with last summer’s “Wonder Woman,” but was savaged by critics for “Suicide Squad” and “Justice League.” There is widespread frustration over DC’s failure to match the popularity of Marvel movies.

Hamada previously served as a production executive at New Line, a division of Warner Bros. There, he helped shepherd such horror hits as “It” and “The Conjuring” to cinemas. The executive enjoys a close relationship with director James Wan, who is directing “Aquaman” for DC, and is credited with helping expand “The Conjuring” universe by making a well-received sequel to the movie, as well as spinoffs with the “Annabelle” series. He will be leaving New Line to work for Warners, and will also oversee any other types of comic book movies that the studio produces outside of the DC canon.

Last summer, Warner Bros. named Courtenay Valenti, best known for her work on the Harry Potter films, as president of production at Warner Bros. She will continue in that role, as will DC Entertainment chief Diane Nelson.

Before coming to New Line, Hamada was a producer and manager with H2F Entertainment. He began his career as an assistant at TriStar and eventually became VP of production for Columbia Pictures. He also ran development for MBST Entertainment.

A spokesperson for Warner Bros. did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
 
This is actually good news. The Conjuring is one of the few cinematic universes other than Marvel's that has actually worked so far.
 
Well, the man can’t do any worse! IT and The Conjuring work well, so let’s keep our fingers crossed.
 
Let's see what he can do.
 
Color me unimpressed.

2017 It (executive producer)
2017 Annabelle: Creation (executive producer)
2016 Wolves at the Door (executive producer)
2016 Within (executive producer)
2016 Lights Out (executive producer)
2016 The Conjuring 2 (executive producer)
2015 The Gallows (executive producer)
2014 Annabelle (executive producer)
2014 Into the Storm (executive producer)
2013 47 Ronin (executive producer)
2013 The Conjuring (executive producer)
2013 The Incredible Burt Wonderstone (executive producer)
2011 Final Destination 5 (executive producer)
2010 A Nightmare on Elm Street (executive producer)
2009 The Final Destination (executive producer)
2009 Friday the 13th (executive producer)
2007 I Whisper (producer)
2002 Sorority Boys (producer)

That filmography does not excite me or give confidence he can head a universe as large as DC.
 
That filmography does not excite me or give confidence he can head a universe as large as DC.

The Conjuring universe is pretty much the anti DCEU. The first film was a hit with both critics and audiences, which built up demand for a sequel, and eventually, spin-offs and other films set in the same universe.

As opposed to the DCEU, they actually built a universe correctly and made sure the foundation was solid. That's what DC has to do; make movies people actually like, before trying something as big as Justice League. That was ultimately the fatal flaw that killed JL; they scheduled shooting to begin without realizing Batman v. Superman might not be the slam dunk they assumed it was going to be, and ended up making a bunch of changes in the middle of filming and post-production as a result.
 
Color me unimpressed.

2017 It (executive producer)
2017 Annabelle: Creation (executive producer)
2016 Wolves at the Door (executive producer)
2016 Within (executive producer)
2016 Lights Out (executive producer)
2016 The Conjuring 2 (executive producer)
2015 The Gallows (executive producer)
2014 Annabelle (executive producer)
2014 Into the Storm (executive producer)
2013 47 Ronin (executive producer)
2013 The Conjuring (executive producer)
2013 The Incredible Burt Wonderstone (executive producer)
2011 Final Destination 5 (executive producer)
2010 A Nightmare on Elm Street (executive producer)
2009 The Final Destination (executive producer)
2009 Friday the 13th (executive producer)
2007 I Whisper (producer)
2002 Sorority Boys (producer)

That filmography does not excite me or give confidence he can head a universe as large as DC.

If anything, to me, it shows his choices to produce these movies have steadily gained an improvement on terms of quality and $$$.

Especially with IT being as big as it was.
 
Only seen IT out of the movies he has produced, but after the shambles that was JL, I apply to see new creative blood in charge.
 
I'm not sure why people are looking for a direct correlation between the content of the films he has produced and the current job he has been tasked to do.

We should be looking at his skillset, and he certainly appears to have the requisite one. One wonders how much this has to do with James Wan, and if they are high on AQUAMAN and looking to Wan to shepherd in the next era of "DC film Universe".
 
Eh we shall see. It's really hard for me to do backflips about another changing of the guard at DC Films. Wasn't Jon Berg in this position supposed to be really good news and WB getting the house in order? That's what some of the DC defenders and scoop writers were proclaiming.
 
Won't amount to anything at the Oscars, but Wonder Woman just scored a Producers Guild of America nomination for Best Picture. The film joins The Incredibles, The Dark Knight, and Deadpool as being the only superhero films ever nominated for that award.

Which, hilariously enough, means Zack Snyder is now a PGA-nominated producer. :funny:
 
Eh we shall see. It's really hard for me to do backflips about another changing of the guard at DC Films. Wasn't Jon Berg in this position supposed to be really good news and WB getting the house in order? That's what some of the DC defenders and scoop writers were proclaiming.

Yeah. I mean, this guy seems to have a good track record but who knows whether that will translate to higher quality DC films. It’s certainly a bit premature to call this guy DC’s “Feige” even if he is indeed in that type of role. Feige was already immersed in Marvel’s film projects for years before he took up his pivotal role in shaping the MCU. This dude might have an extensive knowledge of DC characters for all we know but as of yet, nothing in his history suggests that.

Honestly, this decision reeks of yet another knee-jerk reaction by WB... basically, “Hey, this guy produced a bunch of successful movies for us! Let’s see if he can fix the DCEU!” Or, there’s the even worse possibility: “Hey, this guy produced a bunch of horror films! And if there’s one thing DC superheroes need to be, it’s DARK! People hated Justice League because it wasn’t DARK enough! Let’s bring in a horror guy!”

I honestly don’t think it’s the latter but it wouldn’t surprise me.
 
With this news all I can do is shrug. I really depends on what his job is going to entail. I think that if he's gonna try to somehow coordinate the separate films storylines ala Kevin Feige and dictate that Matt Reeves Batman fits with Flashpoint ,and that Flashpoint fits with WW2 etc, they'll fall flat on their face yet again.

However, if his function is to help nurture the individual films and directors to turn out the best films as possible that'll work.
 
One thing he should do is make sure the budgets are kept down. The budgets on these movies have been ridiculous. After Batman v. Superman, there was literally no reason they should have spent 300 million on the sequel and thought they'd realistically make that back.
 
Emmerich's mission statement was budget-oriented.
Walter Hamada just sounds like the Aquaman production went smoothly,
so might as well hire another guy from the Conjuring series.
 
One thing he should do is make sure the budgets are kept down. The budgets on these movies have been ridiculous. After Batman v. Superman, there was literally no reason they should have spent 300 million on the sequel and thought they'd realistically make that back.

I agree, especially when you consider how cheap and poor both BvS and JL looked. With the amount of money they spent on those movies, at the very least, the visuals should have been absolutely stunning. Instead, the green screen work was painfully obvious and the CGI characters were on par with a Stephen Sommers Mummy movie.
 
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