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The thread is now about Black Adam as a solo film. Not sure what you're talking about. BvS was discussed before the Black Adam news.

Yeah I came here for the Shazam/Black Adam stuff as well. But I saw a few posts in this thread about BvS discussion(pretty long posts). Apparently this is a everything dceu goes thread. Thats fine. Im just sick of the same old bvs discussion ad nauseum. Its in the Batman thread, its in this thread, its in the JL threads. But hey, thats just me, I aint no mod.
 
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Which one comes first Black Adam or Shazam?
 
Which one comes first Black Adam or Shazam?
Not confirmed as of yet. Just know that a solo has been announced. Shazam is the one with a set date + writers and producers attached.
 
Yeah this thread was created because I saw how much the mods where cracking down on off-topic posts in the JL main thread. People usually associated the BVS main thread as a DC-news hub as well, then it became JL once BVS came out.

Due to the nature of a cinematic universe sometimes you can't talk about lets say the Wonder Woman solo without going in depth about how she was in BVS.

And also stuff like DCEU news in general like the tone-shift news that also doesn't directly feed into the JL thread.

On BVS by now everyone's pretty entrenched in their opinions and not changing them anytime soon.
 
Yeah this thread was created because I saw how much the mods where cracking down on off-topic posts in the JL main thread. People usually associated the BVS main thread as a DC-news hub as well, then it became JL once BVS came out.

Due to the nature of a cinematic universe sometimes you can't talk about lets say the Wonder Woman solo without going in depth about how she was in BVS.

And also stuff like DCEU news in general like the tone-shift news that also doesn't directly feed into the JL thread.

On BVS by now everyone's pretty entrenched in their opinions and not changing them anytime soon.

Yeah thats what I thought as well. Would be better though if it didnt have all the BvS/MOS discussion over and over again. But oh well. Good idea for the thread :up:
 
On the Black Adam news I find it interesting that for Black Adam the Rock has been the driving force behind it, and got it done. Then you got Margot Robbie being the driving force behind pushing the sirens movie. Lastly you know Will Smith is the only person who would make WB even consider putting a Deadshot solo in development.

(I separate Affleck due to him being a director himself)

But you still got these actors being a big reason in how these movies got made. And also from a story telling position these characters aren't the main Justice League members. Meanwhile it's been radio silent on the Flash solo since the second director left.
 
Thoughts on the Hal shortlist of Bradley Cooper, Joel McHale, Ryan Reynolds, Jake Gyllenhall, Armie Hammer, Tom Cruise
 
Oh gawd not this Green Lantern stuff again.

As for Dwayne Johnson is he this Black Adam or is he Shazam?
 
No, he knows Batman is attacking him and does not appear to be listening to reason. He doesn't need to know Batman is "unhinged" to realize Batman isn't interested in talking.

You said that Superman knows what the audience knows. The audience is aware that Batman is mentally and/or emotionally unstable and is past the point of listening to reason.

So if Superman isn't aware of that, there's no reason why he didn't try harder to make Batman listen to him. And if he was aware of it, why didn't he immediately kill or incapacitate Batman?

He doesn't bother to explain anything. After Batman attacks him, Superman immediately seeks to establish dominance and put a stop to the fight.

Why are you defending either character if that's what you think?

Your'e disagreeing that Batman, in ignoring Superman's attempts to reason and choosing to attack is not in fact probably not going to listen to reason and attack instead?

You just said Superman didn't bother to explain anything. :huh:

What I'm disagreeing with is the idea that the various traps Bruce set up were in any way indicative of how unstable he was. He was attacking Superman. Of course he was prepared to fight. But I don't believe his actions, purely within the context of Superman's perspective, indicate that he is so consumed by rage that he's beyond the point of caring about the life of an innocent person.

1. That would have been kind of boring compared to a fight.

Not my problem. I didn't write the script.

2. Batman has Kryptonite.

Which he didn't use until after Superman disabled most of his toys and almost threw him off a building. Superman had plenty of time to try and explain what Lex had done.

That has nothing to do with my point that you quoted. We're talking about why he didn't talk to him, not saying he couldn't have.

Yes it does. You said that one person's refusal to listen can generate conflict in the real world. While that's obviously true, your comparison doesn't work, because you're putting the two of them on an equal playing field that they don't occupy even in their world.

In his world, Superman is 100% capable of ripping off Batman's armor and throwing his utility belt into the ocean before the latter even realizes what's happening. Right? So if you pluck those characters from their world and put them in ours, they aren't suddenly going to be equals.

I'm sorry that the movie did not have characters do the easy thing and avoid the drama, conflict and visuals of a fight.

I'm sorry that the movie was so eager to deliver on spectacle that it crafted a situation that - as you say - could've been easily avoided or resolved without that conflict even happening.
 
I think Ryan Reynolds playing Green Lantern again is about as likely as George Clooney coming back to be Batman.
 
Reynolds is probably just a formality. They know there's no way he's coming back, it's just one of those things you're expected to ask sometimes (and some actors also get right of first refusal anyway).
 
Ryan Reynolds already announced Deadpool is his last superhero role, he's not going to do a DC movie, when he is enjoying the great response of his superhero movie, why would he move over to a movie that will most likely be a critical disaster.
 
Ryan Reynolds already announced Deadpool is his last superhero role, he's not going to do a DC movie, when he is enjoying the great response of his superhero movie, why would he move over to a movie that will most likely be a critical disaster.

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Just given the reception to the previous three movies in the franchise, that's not an unfounded conclusion for an actor to make.
 
I dont know why wb isnt trying cash in on the rock train right now. The guy makes entertaining movies that have grossed billions of dollars.
 
I mean the Rock basically got to take an relatively unknown character (not even a Justice League hero) and get him a solo. So I think WB is letting him do whatever he wants.
 
Also wanted to know, what are peoples thoughts on "DC Hate", or how the media treats the DCEU.

I saw this discussion pop up in the WW forum as a result of the Schmoes Know rumor of WW being a mess. And I'm seeing it pop up in the JL forums.

Personally I think this is just a result of three movies that got mixed/negative reviews, and that it's hard not to extrapolate that the next movies in the franchise might not be good. That and I believe El Mayimbe has said that DC news on average gets more clicks than MCU or Fox Marvel news

Also wanted to go on record and say I never buy any rumor that says whether a movie is good or not, or how it's going to get received before it releases. But for the reasons stated above I think these "movie is a mess" rumors get so much traction.
 
Also wanted to go on record and say I never buy any rumor that says whether a movie is good or not, or how it's going to get received before it releases. But for the reasons stated above I think these "movie is a mess" rumors get so much traction.

Because they get more clicks than articles saying that WW is going to be such high quality movie that it will rank up there with all time classics such as Citizen Kane and Gone With the Wind.
And how many clicks a site gets directly relates to how much advertisers will spend on a site.
 
Yeah he should've went with his grounded version but what's done is done, at least he owned up to it

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Also wanted to know, what are peoples thoughts on "DC Hate", or how the media treats the DCEU.

I saw this discussion pop up in the WW forum as a result of the Schmoes Know rumor of WW being a mess. And I'm seeing it pop up in the JL forums.

Personally I think this is just a result of three movies that got mixed/negative reviews, and that it's hard not to extrapolate that the next movies in the franchise might not be good. That and I believe El Mayimbe has said that DC news on average gets more clicks than MCU or Fox Marvel news

Also wanted to go on record and say I never buy any rumor that says whether a movie is good or not, or how it's going to get received before it releases. But for the reasons stated above I think these "movie is a mess" rumors get so much traction.

I think DC hate is something created by fans who don't like people putting down something they like. I don't think it exists. The Nolan films are universally praised and they are DC. It's all about the quality. Make a good coherent film and people will probably appreciate it. I know I would. The rumors get traction because the film's are loved and hated and given the track record, rumors hold weight even if they probably shouldn't.
 
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