All Things Superman: An Open Discussion (Spoilers) - Part 81

[Lencho01]

Clips of the Supermen over the years, including TAS Superman, set to the opening of Planet Krypton. Then they went into a new trailer, with ridiculous new footage.

Cool. Thanks.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en0ZuEPNRpw

That little trailer doesn't do the movie justice.

 

[Lencho01]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en0ZuEPNRpw

[YT]en0ZuEPNRpw[/YT]

Cool opening.

 

[Herolee10]

That little trailer doesn't do the movie justice.

Btw; did the fighting between Superman and..

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Nam-ek come off kind of fake at times, in the sense where they used a lot more CGI doubles for them when showing them fight. I only say that because Nam-ek is already a CGI character due to how tall he has to be in the actual film and judging by how they filmed this thing, it'd be pretty hard to have Cavil and the mo-cap guy portraying Nam-ek shown duking it out in an practical way as opposed to filming a fighting scene between Shannon and Cavil.

Also, who would you say gave Superman a run for his money when it came to fighting between: Faora, Nam-ek, or Zod?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That little trailer doesn't do the movie justice.

I have missed your post. Have you seen it? Did you like it? What was your favorite bit?

And if possible, can you tell me why the finale is apparently very long but the showdown not so much? What is Superman doing the entire time before fighting Zod?

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Btw; did the fighting between Superman and..

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Nam-ek come off kind of fake at times, in the sense where they used a lot more CGI doubles for them when showing them fight. I only say that because Nam-ek is already a CGI character due to how tall he has to be in the actual film and judging by how they filmed this thing, it'd be pretty hard to have Cavil and the mo-cap guy portraying Nam-ek shown duking it out in an practical way as opposed to filming a fighting scene between Shannon and Cavil.

Also, who would you say gave Superman a run for his money when it came to fighting between: Faora, Nam-ek, or Zod?

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1.) Honestly, it did, but it was expected. But, they did make pretty smooth transitions from CGI doubles to the actual person. 2.) It's hard to say, but I would honestly say Faora. She gives him quite a beating and Supes returns the favor.

 

[antonydelfini]

BOX OFFICE REPORT: PHILIPPINES

The new, origin film of Superman flew off to a blockbuster start yesterday as “Man of Steel” surpassed the industry's all-time opening day record with a nationwide gross of a monumental P69.52-M.

“Man of Steel's” phenomenal debut bested the opening day record previously established only last April by “Iron Man 3” at P62.9-million.

This was announced today by Francis Soliven, general manager of Warner Bros. (F.E.), Inc. which distributed the film. “This is a day of reckoning for Superman,” added Soliven. “He's a larger-than-life character beloved by millions of Filipinos, and this was proven today. Fans and families welcomed him back overwhelmingly as evidenced by the long lines, the ubiquitous Superman shirts everywhere, and the cheers at the end of screenings.”

Dominating the over all box-office with a 94 percent share, “Man of Steel” also posted the biggest opening day gross ever for Warner Bros. whose previous best first-day performer was “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 2” at P28.3-million.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

I have missed your post. Have you seen it? Did you like it? What was your favorite bit?

And if possible, can you tell me why the finale is apparently very long but the showdown not so much? What is Superman doing the entire time before fighting Zod?

I absolutely loved it. It definitely met my expectations and then some. But the actual showdown is very long. Zod and Superman just destroy it each other in the last 40 minutes.

 

[Herolee10]

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1.) Honestly, it did, but it was expected. But, they did make pretty smooth transitions from CGI doubles to the actual person. 2.) It's hard to say, but I would honestly say Faora. She gives him quite a beating and Supes returns the favor.

I was afraid of that:

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I could already tell that they probably weren't using that many practical effects to create the punches exchanged between Superman and Nam-ek due to Nam-ek being mainly an CGI character, along with how Superman's fighting style is like.

Well that, and the fact that we haven't seen any shots of them fighting where at least one of them, namely Superman, wasn't an CGI double. I'm having flashbacks to the Matrix fights between Neo and Smith.lol

Instead of making him 9 feet tall, it would have been better to get someone like that wrestler dude, Nathan Jones, who was in Troy (he was the tall dude who first got killed by Brad Pitt) and just add some prosthetic to his face to give him a grotesque (genetic freak/monster) look so that they could stage a better fight between Superman and Nam-ek.

 

[Andreth]

I just came back
I'm so angry and disappointed....


lol just kidding, I really, REALLY liked it, yes, it has flaws but the good overshadows the weak aspects. I left with a huge grin on my face.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

I just came back
I'm so angry and disappointed....


lol just kidding, I really, REALLY liked it, yes, it has flaws but the good overshadows the weak aspects. I left with a huge grin on my face.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I just came back
I'm so angry and disappointed....


lol just kidding, I really, REALLY liked it, yes, it has flaws but the good overshadows the weak aspects. I left with a huge grin on my face.

And the weaker aspects were?

 

[TheNextNolan22]

I was afraid of that:

Spoiler

I could already tell that they probably weren't using that many practical effects to create the punches exchanged between Superman and Nam-ek due to Nam-ek being mainly an CGI character, along with how Superman's fighting style is like.

Well that, and the fact that we haven't seen any shots of them fighting where at least one of them, namely Superman, wasn't an CGI double. I'm having flashbacks to the Matrix fights between Neo and Smith.lol

Instead of making him 9 feet tall, it would have been better to get someone like that wrestler dude, Nathan Jones, who was in Troy (he was the tall dude who first got killed by Brad Pitt) and just add some prosthetic to his face to give him a grotesque (genetic freak/monster) look so that they could stage a better fight between Superman and Nam-ek.

Haha it's funny that you mentioned Nathan Jones. I met him back at WrestleMania 19 10 years ago. That dude is HUGE. I think it would have been a better to get him or someone like him to play Nam-Ek, but I'm not particularly bothered by it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I absolutely loved it. It definitely met my expectations and then some. But the actual showdown is very long. Zod and Superman just destroy it each other in the last 40 minutes.

Glad you enjoyed. It still makes me nervous though that the final is so long and I am hearing about pacing problems with the pre-Superman stuff. How coherent would you say the early stuff is? Does it transition well, or does it jump all over the place?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Haha it's funny that you mentioned Nathan Jones. I met him back at WrestleMania 19 10 years ago. That dude is HUGE. I think it would have been a better to get him or someone like him to play Nam-Ek, but I'm not particularly bothered by it.

In my top 3 WM. Love the look of it, and the HBK/Jericho match is one of my all time favorites.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Glad you enjoyed. It still makes me nervous though that the final is so long and I am hearing about pacing problems with the pre-Superman stuff. How coherent would you say the early stuff is? Does it transition well, or does it jump all over the place?

You know, thinking more and more about it, it's like Batman Begins where the first hour is the origin stuff, but it's kind of jumpy. The first act is the origin, the second is the character progression, and the third is an all-out war.

In my top 3 WM. Love the look of it, and the HBK/Jericho match is one of my all time favorites.

Yes!

 

[Andreth]

And the weaker aspects were?

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Jonathan's death was the worst thing in the movie for me. Geez, that was awful IMO I can't say I loved the movie because of that.
Zod was a little bit of a disappointment too. And while I'm convinced that Snyder is a great visual artist, there were moments when his direction left a lot to be desired.

BUT, I don't agree with the harsh reviews some critics are giving it.

 

[Dispatch Ninja]

16 more hours

 

[Herolee10]

Haha it's funny that you mentioned Nathan Jones. I met him back at WrestleMania 19 10 years ago. That dude is HUGE. I think it would have been a better to get him or someone like him to play Nam-Ek, but I'm not particularly bothered by it.

Agreed; I think before the character designs were revealed for the mo-cap people, let alone the identity of their characters in general, I was really hoping that they'd turn out to look like something that was very menacing and frightening to behold.

I really wanted to see Superman fight against a few foes that looked very intimidating, ala Darth Maul or even a Flying Wraith from the LOTR series, so when I saw the final design for the character, I was kind of disappointed by it.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

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Jonathan's death was the worst thing in the movie for me. Geez, that was awful IMO I can't say I loved the movie because of that.
Zod was a little bit of a disappointment too. And while I'm convinced that Snyder is a great visual artist, there were moments when his direction left a lot to be desired.

BUT, I don't agree with the harsh reviews some critics are giving it.

Really?

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I thought Jonathan's arc was the weakest aspect of the film for me. Inconsistent, IMO.

 

[Liam_H]

Really?

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I thought Jonathan's arc was the weakest aspect of the film for me. Inconsistent, IMO.

Didn't you guys just agree?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

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Jonathan's death was the worst thing in the movie for me. Geez, that was awful IMO I can't say I loved the movie because of that.
Zod was a little bit of a disappointment too. And while I'm convinced that Snyder is a great visual artist, there were moments when his direction left a lot to be desired.

BUT, I don't agree with the harsh reviews some critics are giving it.

Thanks for the info. And considering all the disappointment in [BLACKOUT]Pa Kent's death scene[/BLACKOUT], I have to wonder why they chose to make that scene the way it is.

 

[Herolee10]

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Jonathan's death was the worst thing in the movie for me. Geez, that was awful IMO I can't say I loved the movie because of that.
Zod was a little bit of a disappointment too. And while I'm convinced that Snyder is a great visual artist, there were moments when his direction left a lot to be desired.

BUT, I don't agree with the harsh reviews some critics are giving it.

Bummer.

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I had really hoped that Jonathan's death would be emotional to watch but based on what everyone's saying, the way it was written and executed on screen leaves a lot to be desired, which sucks considering on how important that moment is supposed to be for Superman's upbringing.

I'm surprised that I haven't really heard anyone commenting about whether the sequence for Krypton's destruction and the deaths of Superman's parents was emotional or not. Judging by how no one's really mentioned about it, I guess it didn't click with people emotionally, a lot like Bruce Wayne's parents death in BB

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Bummer.

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I had really hoped that Jonathan's death would be emotional to watch but based on what everyone's saying, the way it was written and executed on screen leaves a lot to be desired, which sucks considering on how important that moment is supposed to be for Superman's upbringing.

I'm surprised that I haven't really heard anyone commenting about whether the sequence for Krypton's destruction and the deaths of Superman's parents was emotional or not. Judging by how no one's really mentioned about it, I guess it didn't click with people emotionally, a lot like Bruce Wayne's parents death in BB

Really? That scene kills me in Begins.

 

[Andreth]

Really?

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I thought Jonathan's arc was the weakest aspect of the film for me. Inconsistent, IMO.

I totally agree.

Thanks for the info. And considering all the disappointment in [BLACKOUT]Pa Kent's death scene[/BLACKOUT], I have to wonder why they chose to make that scene the way it is.

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I honestly have no idea, seriously WHAT THE HECK, he freaking died

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for saving a ----! sorry I don't wanna spoil it, you'll know how to fill in the blanks when you see it

oh my god, and Clark just stood there, I can't even write about it without getting angry

But leaving that aside and the fact that I didn't cared for Zod at all, I think that harsh criticism is really unfair, I feel like they're trying to bring down the movie with malice. I just, I don't know. It's not perfect but damn some reviews are horrible.

ANyway, just go watch it for yourselves, I was very down in the morning but now it's all different t:

And as a Lois Lane fan I'm very pleased with her new role and dynamic with Clark/Kal. I'm gonna confess that when she was cast I was a little disappointed but wow, Amy was fantastic, she truly is a great actress. The other two females were great too. Antje and Diane. Antje impressed me too.