All Things Superman: An Open Discussion (Spoilers) - Part 81

[!Superman!]

i changed the pic. Fits better to this situation^^

 

[Deserana]

To the people who have seen it - Do you ever get bored of the action sequences?

 

[jed]

I'm merely quoting this because of your user name and how you may be my alter ego perhaps.

But kudos for speaking your mind, some people are going bonkers because it's not getting the reviews they wanted to hear. Still definitely looking forward to it.

I really want to like this movie.

To be fair, the begining first act of the movie wasn't that bad.

The main problem is once it gets to the second/ third act...it starts to become a typical mindless action packed movie.

It's sad. Cause I really want WB to get the break they deserved.


Green Lantern flop...it isn't that bad since Green Lantern isn't that a big name.

But you don't mess with Batman or Superman franchises....they're like the crown jewels of DC.

 

[Lone]

Bored of the action? Not at all. But I can see how the camera work might make it tiring to watch for some.

 

[GreenKToo]

So I just came back from watching MOS...and it was a huge disappointment.

The movie was practically all style and no substances.

I don't know what Snyder is thinking... he choose to focus too much on action scenes and battle sequences.

Everything else just fell flat.

Just because you throw in a ridiculous amount of action, explosions, City under attack and buildings collasping....that does not equals to great storytelling or a great movie.

Is Snyder trying to be Michael Bay?

I don't think Snyder understands or gets it at all. This movie has no "heart and soul" to it.

Some of the action scenes doesn't even make sense.

For example...the Superman Vs Zod across the cornfields. Zod didn't even do anything to Martha ( I think Faora was the one who hurt Martha).....then suddenly out of nowhere, Superman attacks Zod like crazy.

I really want to like this movie.

To be fair, the begining first act of the movie wasn't that bad.

The main problem is once it gets to the second/ third act...it starts to become a typical mindless action packed movie.

It's sad. Cause I really want WB to get the break they deserved.


Green Lantern flop...it isn't that bad since Green Lantern isn't that a big name.

But you don't mess with Batman or Superman franchises....they're like the crown jewels of DC.

Too bad you didnt like it, but I seriously doubt we have a flop here. Quite the opposite really. I would imagine it will make 120 mill this weekend, maybe more, but thats a good round number.
It's already broke one opening day record in the philippines. Thats a good sign. Will it break records here? no, but it will do fine.

 

[Marvin]

I get bored with the action in the Resident evil movie and Expendables.
People just shooting and shooting at stuff with big guns or slow mo zombies.

Most other action I find hard to ever get board off(even the bat films).

 

[i_Cam]

The varying reviews and reactions to this movie are truly stunning. 7pm tonight I'll know myself...

 

[GreenKToo]

The varying reviews and reactions to this movie are truly stunning. 7pm tonight I'll know myself...

As will I. 5 HOURS TO GO

 

[jed]

To the people who have seen it - Do you ever get bored of the action sequences?

Sort of. It gets to the point it becomes kind of meaningless to me.

Yeah, Superman is strong and powerful, we get it.

But do we need a ridiculous amount of quick, fast battle scenes to showcase Superman's flight, agility, superhuman speed...etc..?

Basically to sum it up, it's like watching two aliens with superhuman strength and speed throwing and slaming into each other, throwing and crashing each other into buildings.....that's basically what most of the action sequences is.

Especially the very last fight between Zod and Superman...it gets to the point of "enough is enough already". It starts to become ridiculous and unbelievable.

Maybe Snyder is trying to beat the action sequences from "The Avengers"

 

[UrNuts2]

I really want to like this movie.

To be fair, the begining first act of the movie wasn't that bad.

The main problem is once it gets to the second/ third act...it starts to become a typical mindless action packed movie.

It's sad. Cause I really want WB to get the break they deserved.


Green Lantern flop...it isn't that bad since Green Lantern isn't that a big name.

But you don't mess with Batman or Superman franchises....they're like the crown jewels of DC.

i'd be really gobsmacked & disappointed if i walk out of the theatre NOT liking it a WHOLE lot more than SR (which i didn't like all too much) .. my anticipation has been tempered somewhat to be honest & i think i might have a critical eye on 1st viewing .. hope i'm blown away like most of you & like it seems most general audience viewers are .. i fear i may be like like Jed in that i'm hard to please .. i just hope that the GA at large approves so that it retains some legs to secure a sequel even if I don't end up liking it that much .. perhaps they can fix their mistakes & pace a sequel a bit better now that the basics are covered .. please Goyer, seek some assistance

 

[Autonet]

The film has many emotional scenes, but they are all three minutes or so long, and the film takes right angles directly after them which really limit any emotional resonance the film tries to portray.

Exactly. A lot of the scenes and lines in the trailers sound truly epic, but once you get the context and the entire scene, some of them just don't hit you in the feels anymore at all.

 

[GreenKToo]

Sort of. It gets to the point it becomes kind of meaningless to me.

Yeah, Superman is strong and powerful, we get it.

But do we need a ridiculous amount of quick, fast battle scenes to showcase Superman's flight, agility, superhuman speed...etc..?

Basically to sum it up, it's like watching two aliens with superhuman strength and speed throwing and slaming into each other, throwing and crashing each other into buildings.....that's basically what most of the action sequences is.

Especially the very last fight between Zod and Superman...it gets to the point of "enough is enough already". It starts to become ridiculous and unbelievable.

Maybe Snyder is trying to beat the action sequences from "The Avengers"

Yes, yes we do. It's what the fans and public complained about before. Not enough action. I'd rather have too much than not enough. So yeah, I hope it has as much as you say.

 

[snpklsdmbldr]

Basically to sum it up, it's like watching two aliens with superhuman strength and speed throwing and slaming into each other, throwing and crashing each other into buildings.....that's basically what most of the action sequences is.

Especially the very last fight between Zod and Superman...it gets to the point of "enough is enough already". It starts to become ridiculous and unbelievable.

Maybe Snyder is trying to beat the action sequences from "The Avengers"

this is funny

and then your last line definitely says "something" about you.

 

[snpklsdmbldr]

It's an outrage that SR currently has higher RT rating and I liked SR.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Exactly. A lot of the scenes and lines in the trailers sound truly epic, but once you get the context and the entire scene, some of them just don't hit you in the feels anymore at all.

Failure of execution, not conceptualization. Good ideas, bad use of them.

 

[GreenKToo]

The public will be the ultimate critic.

 

[JaD]

There's speaking your mind and then there's that mess Jed posted. It's not the film maker's fault if he can't grasp simple concepts and plain common sense.

I think his only real fault is not going into more depth about why he felt the way he did about the movie. But I got the gist of what he thought of it. Doesn't mean I agree or disagree, or if he's right or wrong, it's his opinion of the movie and I wouldn't be shocked to hear similar thoughts from other people. I haven't seen the movie yet so I can't agree or disagree on anything he mentioned regarding some action scenes that he feels were forced or pointless.

I did watch the clip on (was it Jay Leno or something) of Superman attacking Zod and thought it was odd that he left his mother alone with 4 or so of Zod's crew who I guess were threatening her. But then again, I don't have any real context at the moment, and that's also when I start thinking of everything afterwards when watching a movie, "Why didn't he do this, or that? etc. No movie is perfect. [BLACKOUT]Except for Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers & Good Burger....[/BLACKOUT]

 

[DaJanksta]

Heart and soul missing? Interesting that and the action are the two things I thought the film did perfectly. That sucks for Jed. Lol.

 

[Vid Electricz]

Sort of. It gets to the point it becomes kind of meaningless to me.

Yeah, Superman is strong and powerful, we get it.

But do we need a ridiculous amount of quick, fast battle scenes to showcase Superman's flight, agility, superhuman speed...etc..?

Basically to sum it up, it's like watching two aliens with superhuman strength and speed throwing and slaming into each other, throwing and crashing each other into buildings.....that's basically what most of the action sequences is.

Especially the very last fight between Zod and Superman...it gets to the point of "enough is enough already". It starts to become ridiculous and unbelievable.

Maybe Snyder is trying to beat the action sequences from "The Avengers"

Agreed. I haven't seen the film- but I've heard that the entire third act is all out action(?)

It should be quality over quantity, when you're watching tons of action for an hour straight, it DOES become meaningless and less special (TRANSFORMERS), especially if it doesn't feel particularly motivated by the story.

If I want to watch two action figures beat each other up, I can play a video game.

 

[musclesforsupes]

I think alot of the critics seem to think it is to dark and moody, I feel that if the scenes were maybe more bright and colorful then it would have gotten a better reaction. Maybe the "moody" superhero is waining in the public after Batman and that is why "bright" movies like the Avengers are making money and getting sequels more than the DC universe, but I digress that is just my opinion.


I still say this weekend will not be the critical week for MOS, it will be the next few weeks via word of mouth and the General Audience. Fanboys and girls and comic book fans will see it multiple times. It will be the GA and how bad the films "drops" in business that sees if this movie has legs. If it doesnt drop more than 60% at the box office then I think it has a shot at the 800 million and above box office. However if it is more severe then it will probably struggle to reach 400-500 million, especially with the upcoming movies on the horizon. World War Z seems to be getting surprisingly good early predictions even though the movie struggled to get finished and the buzz on Pacific Rim is really high, of course you also have the Lone Ranger, but I do not see the buzz online for that film however with Johnny Depp you have the "star power" and his fans so that could push the box office back more.

A part of me sorta wishes MOS was released back in December since though there are box office juggarnaunts at this time compared to the summer I think it would have had a better chance for not suffering a big drop off. Will see what happens, if this movie does less than 100 million this weekend I will be surprised. I am looking forward to the next weeks ahead more so.

 

[jed]

To be fair, the flashback scenes were moving and they touched me. I can relate to the whole outcast and being bullied at school thing.

I really like the relationship between Clark and Jonathan/Martha Kent.

The Jonathan Kent death scene is very moving.

Henry Cavill is a really great actor...at least a million times better than Brandon Routh.

Cavill is able to pull off the emotions effectively especially during the death of Jonathan Kent and Zod.

If Superman Returns 2006 is a diluted glass of orange juice....

then Man of Steel 2013 is a saturated glass of orange juice....

 

[snpklsdmbldr]

Agreed. I haven't seen the film- but I've heard that the entire third act is all out action(?)

It should be quality over quantity, when you're watching tons of action for an hour straight, it DOES become meaningless and less special (TRANSFORMERS), especially if it doesn't feel particularly motivated by the story.

If I want to watch two action figures beat each other up, I can play a video game.

how can you agree on something you haven't seen?

 

[JaD]

But damn, it just reached 59%

Doesn't bring down my excitement at all but I'm quite surprised. I wasn't expecting a TDK but I thought it'd at least be in the 70s.

 

[musclesforsupes]

Agreed. I haven't seen the film- but I've heard that the entire third act is all out action(?)

It should be quality over quantity, when you're watching tons of action for an hour straight, it DOES become meaningless and less special (TRANSFORMERS), especially if it doesn't feel particularly motivated by the story.

If I want to watch two action figures beat each other up, I can play a video game.

Can someone tell me if the action is easy to follow? One thing with the Transformers movies were that the action was so fast I couldnt tell what robot was what and get a grip on what was happening.

 

[DKDetective]

this is funny

and then your last line definitely says "something" about you.

Grow up. People have differences of opinion. Nothing that has been said indicates we are dealing with a troll. I can very easily see myself making the same complaints about the film. Not everyone loved The Avengers or its action sequences. While most Superman fans do indeed want to finally see the epic battles of the comics brought to life on film, there is such a thing as too much or bad action.