All Things Superman: An Open Discussion (Spoilers) - - - - - - - - - - Part 90

[G.Godfrey]

Hello.

Hai.

 

[X Knight]

 

[InJustice]

 

[FlawlessVictory]

^^Hilarious!

 

[747]

I loved the actual explosion of Krypton. Great imagery, great detailed CGI visuals and a wonderful score (dat violin solo).

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

Why not hire Paul Dini as a co-writer?

Because that would be too good to be true. Make it happen, WB!

 

[!Superman!]

how long do movies stay in cinemas? a month, 2 ?

 

[gohei_]

Regarding the fact that we did not get to see the reaction to Superman, I would like if the sequel opened with a montage of tv-clips with reactions from around the world about the invasion and the fact that an alien has lived among us.

 

[BH/HHH]

how long do movies stay in cinemas? a month, 2 ?

Doesn't it depend on how well it's doing?

 

[BlackFox]

 

[Rowsdower!]

Aqua-Grumpy Cat is the best.

 

[X Knight]

Aqua-Grumpy Cat is the best.

I know. so cold. so harsh. t:

 

[John-An]

I think a lot my issues also stem from this being an origin story, so there's always that much more to nitpick and so much more source material to compare to.

This happened with The Amazing Spider-Man as well. Liked it a lot, but it had too much overlap with the first Spider-Man to give you any sense of something new.

Here's hoping both TASM 2 and MOS 2 have some room to spread their wings and truly fly.

I don't agree with you on that... Superman's origin is fresh than new spidey origin(10 years of spidey and supes has 30 years) many kids didn't know exactly the steps of clark-kal to become supes

 

[dark_b]

but the problem here is that this origin doesnt give the new kids a superman who alone makes the decision to become the hero......an ideal of hope. he doesnt make alone the choice to save everyone. the new generation got a superhero who gets told from his parents what he can and can not do.

which is IMO what young modern parents are trying to do. they are trying to tell their kids what to do. thats not parenting IMO.

 

[king666]

but the problem here is that this origin doesnt give the new kids a superman who alone makes the decision to become the hero......an ideal of hope. he doesnt make alone the choice to save everyone. the new generation got a superhero who gets told from his parents what he can and can not do.

which is IMO what young modern parents are trying to do. they are trying to tell their kids what to do. thats not parenting IMO.

Yep. That's one of the negative points about MOS, for me.

 

[Ubba Dubba]

but the problem here is that this origin doesnt give the new kids a superman who alone makes the decision to become the hero......an ideal of hope. he doesnt make alone the choice to save everyone. the new generation got a superhero who gets told from his parents what he can and can not do.

which is IMO what young modern parents are trying to do. they are trying to tell their kids what to do. thats not parenting IMO.

No, his parents did there job and tried to guide him in the best way they could and tried to instill in him there experience and knowledge. In the end however the decision of what he would do was entirely up to him. He needs to decide from all he was taught what he wanted to do and how to apply it. With all the advice and guidance parent need also to show there children how to make good informed decisions on there own using the skills they gave to them.

 

[BH/HHH]

but the problem here is that this origin doesnt give the new kids a superman who alone makes the decision to become the hero......an ideal of hope. he doesnt make alone the choice to save everyone. the new generation got a superhero who gets told from his parents what he can and can not do.

which is IMO what young modern parents are trying to do. they are trying to tell their kids what to do. thats not parenting IMO.

But he's saving lives even when Pa Kent is telling him he needs to be more careful and before Jor El comes into play he saves people on the oil rig. So how is he not choosing to become a hero?

Yes he gets the suit from Jor El but he was saving lives before that.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

No, his parents did there job and tried to guide him in the best way they could and tried to instill in him there experience and knowledge. In the end however the decision of what he would do was entirely up to him. He needs to decide from all he was taught what he wanted to do and how to apply it. With all the advice and guidance parent need also to show there children how to make good informed decisions on there own using the skills they gave to them.

Basically, Jon was teaching him patience. Jon knew Clark would change the world with his powers but when that time came he would have to deal with the people's fear of him as well and he knew at such a young age Clark couldn't handle that yet. Jon knew the time would come for Clark to reveal himself but Clark had to keep searching until that right time came.

 

[Mad Love]

but the problem here is that this origin doesnt give the new kids a superman who alone makes the decision to become the hero......an ideal of hope. he doesnt make alone the choice to save everyone. the new generation got a superhero who gets told from his parents what he can and can not do.

which is IMO what young modern parents are trying to do. they are trying to tell their kids what to do. thats not parenting IMO.

What? That's not a problem. He saved the kids in the bus. He made that decision himself. Every time he went out to save people as a mystery strong man he made all those decisions himself. Clark was a hero without anyone telling him to be.

And Superman always got guidance from both parents. You're reaching when you say he was told what to do. His parents just conveyed that he has a lot of potential and shouldn't take it for granted.

 

[InJustice]

but the problem here is that this origin doesnt give the new kids a superman who alone makes the decision to become the hero......an ideal of hope. he doesnt make alone the choice to save everyone. the new generation got a superhero who gets told from his parents what he can and can not do.

which is IMO what young modern parents are trying to do. they are trying to tell their kids what to do. thats not parenting IMO.

Did you miss the part where Clark Kent uses his powers to help in defiance of his father's beliefs?

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

Did you miss the part where Clark Kent uses his powers to help in defiance of his father's beliefs?

Which is why I hated the tornado scene (and I like about 70+ percent of the movie).

"You're not my dad!"

Uh..Sure, I'll honor your wishes at the expense of me and my Ma

 

[br0adband]

The whole idea that Kal/Clark doesn't do what he chooses to do for his own reasons flies in the face (pun intended to some degree) of one of the best lines of dialogue from the movie itself (as some have taken it as a sig, even):

What if a child dreamed of becoming something other than what society had intended? What if a child aspired to something greater?

Surely I can't be the only one that sees that, right?

 

[TheIrishAvenger]

The whole idea that Kal/Clark doesn't do what he chooses to do for his own reasons flies in the face (pun intended to some degree) of one of the best lines of dialogue from the movie itself (as some have taken it as a sig, even):

What if a child dreamed of becoming something other than what society had intended? What if a child aspired to something greater?

Surely I can't be the only one that sees that, right?

Was that line in the movie? I forget things.

 

[MrMaooz]

Was that line in the movie? I forget things.

Yep.

 

[X Knight]

the desire to save and help others was always in this Clark.

even Lois commented on that, that the only way Clark would truly "disappear" is if he stops helping people and she very much doubted he would do that.