DarthSkywalker
🦉Your Most Aggro Pal (he/him)
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When you realize that Rotten Tomato percentage scores are not xomething that can be given a number by choice, give me a call. How can say something should have a specific RT score, when it is specifically a percentage based on how many critics either liked or didn't like the film?While I wasn't annoyed before...I am now. We were having a nice discussion, and then you decided to be an ass.
Then again, your whole attempt at trying to sound objective with the "Why are you still here" shtick was flimsy at best. You DO want this board to be a lovefest, you just didn't want to be overt about it, a tactic I have seen on the TDKR boards.
My point was that, if people can have dissenting opinions on other versions of Superman, I think its fair for me to share my thoughts of MOS. Really has nothing to do with being bitter over people's anger at Donner or SR, as a vocal minority hate Donner, and, as I have said before, SR and MOS are of the same level of quality.
When you learn not to be condescending, give me a call.
And it isn't flimsy. The beautiful art of ignoring a question and saying you are just here is to discuss is blatant stonewalling. An attempt to dance around the real reason.
It is amazing how many people can dislike something and then write so much about it. It is the height of fanboy ridiculousness. It is just like Devin.
Now, not everyone is doing that, but certainly some are.
The themes are not all played out in speeches by Clark's father. They are set up by them. They play out through Clark's actions, his decision making.Look here's the problem with the themes of the movie. Because who cares, none of us are judging the film on that. We just want to really enjoy it and be entertained by it. Just like The Avengers and TASM. What is the difference between MOS and those films though? The complete different tone. MOS tries very hard to be this high brow weighty reverent film. Constantly giving us redundant exposition and flashbacks regarding it's themes. If it's going to do this, it better have a pretty good reason. As in make an actual point about these.
Just by having Jonathan Kent or Jor-El preach these themes again and again in dialogue, does not heighten the film in any way. There's no point or anything being made. Even if it was as simple as the end of TDK, 'Sometimes the truth isn't good enough', it would at least be trying to say something. Instead it's all 'you will give them...' and 'one day you will...' which ultimately leads to a big CGI destruction scene and no addressing these focal points.
That's why the themes become a problem. Just the way the film treats itself. The main problem for me though is probably just the haphazardly structured first half, followed by a paint-by-the-numbers second half.
The final scene is not simply a big CGI destruction scene. It is built on and revolves around Clark's decisions and his confrontation with what toppled the Kryptonians in the first place. They engineered themselves this way. The only one capable of stopping them is the only one of them who can actually make a choice.
The existence of the codex itself speaks to this.


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