BvS All Things Superman and Batman: An Open Discussion

Status
Not open for further replies.
Bringing this over from the Bat Casting Thread:

I believe WB's plan is instead of making origin films for the JL members, they're instead introducing them through a MOS sequel.

I see it like this:

Man of Steel > World's Finest > Trinity > Justice League > Spin-Off films. So MOS really is the start of a DCCU, but a DCCU franchise. Hopefully they won't wait that long for solo films.

Honestly, I think doing a trinity film is pretty pointless. It's one thing to introduce Batman and Superman together and devote a film to that, but if the goal is to get to a JL film, skip the trinity and just go to JL after WF.
 
I think if they do a Trinity film, there's a chance they may more or less consider that their big teamup film and not go further. Possibly even calling it "Justice League".

The fact that Green Lantern was a total flop and that they're pushing forward with a Flash TV show instead of a Flash movie is what makes me think that's a real possibility.

Yeah, I know a lot of fans would call foul on that, but with WB, I could easily see that happening.
 
I grew up on Morrison's batman. It's probably the reason I detest Nolan's batman as violently as I do. Morrison may have taken the batgod idea further than most writers in this era.

Scott Snyder not the devil, he's the man.

I love both Morrison and nolan's Batman (and they share quite a few similarities).

Scott should be banned from writing Batman comics. He's easily my worst Bat-writer. He should stick to making stuff that please Stephen King's ego. If I want Mexican soap opera, I'll stick to Mexican TV, I don't need it in my Batman stories.
 
Last edited:
I think if they do a Trinity film, there's a chance they may more or less consider that their big teamup film and not go further. Possibly even calling it "Justice League".

The fact that Green Lantern was a total flop and that they're pushing forward with a Flash TV show instead of a Flash movie is what makes me think that's a real possibility.

Yeah, I know a lot of fans would call foul on that, but with WB, I could easily see that happening.

Wb actually seems to be trying this time, so I honestly don't see them pushing a trinity movie as JL. And there is a Flash movie rumored for 2016.
 
Honestly, I'd rather have a Flash movie than a WW one.
 
Last edited:
I'd MUCH rather have a Wonder Woman film, but oh well.
 
I don't want a WW movie because I'm a sexist mofo. :o
 
Dammit man, don't make me sharpen those pitchforks again...
 
Last edited:
You know what you men's problem is? You don't respect the almighty uterus. FEMINISTAS UNITE! ALL HAIL THE ALMIGHTY UTERUS! :ww:

lynda-carter-wonder-woman.jpg


Got it!

:p
 
I remember where I was when I read the news of the Batman/Superman movie. I'll probably never forget. Even though I have to admit that I would have liked to see a Man of Steel sequel first, I feel like I can't not be excited for a Batman/Superman movie. I mean, this film is going to be a huge. This has been a dream film for decades. I can't wait to see how they make this work.

As for WB not using the other DC characters, I think that would be a huge mistake on their part. Marvel has put out solo films for its characters and has created a great universe. And they're going to continue doing that. DC needs to get on the ball. If they feel they need to do a Justice League film first, I am fine with that, but don't leave anyone out. They need to have confidence in these characters. If they're done right, I do think that they can succeed. Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern and even Aquaman need to be brought into the universe.
 
You know its funny I remember an idea I had that I wrote in an article yonks ago for what WBs could do wih Superman if MOS flopped and one of those was a team up universe. Now I did suggest using him to propel characters that weren't that well know i.e. Shazam, etc but it seems that with Superman/Batman that may now be on the agenda.
 
I think if they do a Trinity film, there's a chance they may more or less consider that their big teamup film and not go further. Possibly even calling it "Justice League".

The fact that Green Lantern was a total flop and that they're pushing forward with a Flash TV show instead of a Flash movie is what makes me think that's a real possibility.

Yeah, I know a lot of fans would call foul on that, but with WB, I could easily see that happening.
Didn't I read somewhere that the Flash TV series is in no way going to affect a possible Flash movie?

Bringing this over from the Bat Casting Thread:

I believe WB's plan is instead of making origin films for the JL members, they're instead introducing them through a MOS sequel.

I see it like this:

Man of Steel > World's Finest > Trinity > Justice League > Spin-Off films. So MOS really is the start of a DCCU, but a DCCU franchise. Hopefully they won't wait that long for solo films.

Where does a Flash movie fit?
 
Didn't I read somewhere that the Flash TV series is in no way going to affect a possible Flash movie?

They've said similar before though. They'd be smarter to either turn the TV properties into eventual films or wait til the series have ended.

Its funny cause people say turning TV into a film won't work. Well why won't it? It worked for Star Trek and Firefly in some ways. Also I bet there were people doubting Marvel's idea of building towards Avengers would work. You have to try these things out if you are gonna break from the norm.
 
Honestly, I think it's better NOT to mix TV Series with films in the way that Marvel is doing with their cinematic universe. I mean, as much as I enjoy "Arrow", I really wouldn't want that show or even the new Flash show to be included into the film's DCU because I'd like to maintain some sense of consistency in the quality of the presentation.

To go from daily TV-Budgeted effects to a big budgeted film...it would just throw things off.
 
Honestly, I think it's better NOT to mix TV Series with films in the way that Marvel is doing with their cinematic universe. I mean, as much as I enjoy "Arrow", I really wouldn't want that show or even the new Flash show to be included into the film's DCU because I'd like to maintain some sense of consistency in the quality of the presentation.

To go from daily TV-Budgeted effects to a big budgeted film...it would just throw things off.

See I don't agree as I said it worked for Star Trek. Its one of those things because it hasn't been done often is seen as a it shouldn't be done like that scenario. This is a chance to break from the norm.
 
I think the success of The Hunger Games really shows how Wonder Woman could work. I think it's best to wait for Grant Morrison's Wonder Woman: Earth One to figure out the angle though.

Just like JMS' Superman: Earth One informed MOS in a way... :whatever: :dry: :(
 
I think the success of The Hunger Games really shows how Wonder Woman could work. I think it's best to wait for Grant Morrison's Wonder Woman: Earth One to figure out the angle though.

Just like JMS' Superman: Earth One informed MOS in a way... :whatever: :dry: :(

Fans always meet new takes to this material in this manner. From the ultimate line to even the soul vision Birthright many were arguing wouldn't dare call itself the new superman universe origin to the new 52.

The more changes to the status quo the less happy people...initially.
...it always happens.

Time flushes out the good works.

As for female heroines. Hollywood just isn't built for it. You need 1 of two things if it's going to work, let alone get a green light:
1. A huge star. I think Jolie would be the best choice given her ability to open an action film.
2. Or a huge property, such as twilight and more to the point Hunger games. WW currently ain't that.

Still, I think the GA would be more interested in seeing a super powered Xena than a movie about a guy that runs and runs and runs. I personally prefer flash in team up books alone.
 
Last edited:
Wonder Woman is DC's third most iconic character-though the Flash isn't too far behind. I have a disturbing feeling that WB will stall the WW movie as much as they possibly can, though.
 
Wonder Woman is DC's third most iconic character-though the Flash isn't too far behind. I have a disturbing feeling that WB will stall the WW movie as much as they possibly can, though.

The only way I feel a Wonder Woman movie is coming through is if Marvel beats them to the punch of having a female protagonist movie first. In this case if they ever announce a Black Widow movie with Hawkeye as the other main character. The story will focus heavily and involve Natasha heaps and Barton involves himself and aids her and it somehow becomes Barton's story as well. Scarlett carries enough star power to hold her own in a movie and Renner is placed as a co-star as:

a)They played brilliantly off each other in The Avengers to the point where you don't typically think of one without the other. A good noted example of this in cinema is Han & Chewie.
b)To not totally alienate male audiences.

WB sees this and sees $$$ after Marvel troll-faces them with their $$$ and then we'll hear the Wonder Woman movie green-lit following a similar formula but more DC-ish where Steve Trevor takes on a similar role to Hawkeye in the above theoretical movie.

On another note, I assume everyone here has seen this excerpt from a recent report from Superman Homepage about WB debunking the Batman-casting rumors?

A Superman Homepage source tells us that Zack Snyder may currently be more involved with movie title possibilities and how to represent the film, with the director looking at "World's Finest" and "Public Enemies" ideas for inspiration.

If this is true as a majority here take the debunking by WB as truth, then this is the best news I've heard all day as:

a)Snyder realizes that Batman vs. Superman/Superman vs. Batman is a lousy title and that they're actually changing it to something else! :D :)

b)They're looking at other stuff apart from TDKReturns! Like Public Enemies and World's Finest where both of them would actually team up with both on an equal standing and both having good spotlight moments satisfying fans as well as fight. We might actually see them complement each other's skills as seen in Public Enemies as well as maybe some banter? :D Plus I've said this before and I'll say it again. A Public Enemies style story would be just great, as it's not just a Superman/Batman story but also a Superman vs Lex Luthor story. So yay! We might get to see Lex Luthor!
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top
monitoring_string = "afb8e5d7348ab9e99f73cba908f10802"