All Things Wonder Woman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 22

[Tg11]

I wonder if Wonder Woman will tie into Justice League somehow

 

[idiot09]

It doesnt really. Its a standalone movie like MOS.

 

[Tg11]

Fair enough because I am about to go and see this film later on today so I just want to know what I am in for

 

[Filmfan93]

I can't wait for WW to smash Guardians of the Galaxy 2 at the box office. Put that ridiculous franchise in it place!

And there always has to be that Marvel vs DC guy...

Can't we just enjoy... you know.. the best of both worlds? We as fans win in the end.

 

[Tg11]

Plus I can just tell it will be a packed house at my theatre and honestly I can't wait

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

How much of that awesome BvS Wonder Woman theme is in this?

 

[Primal Slayer]

Plenty, it is there where you would expect it to be.

 

[Tg11]

But I wonder if the Themyscira scenes will tie into the Greek kingdom of Olympus then considering the Greek gods that are in this like Ares for example

 

[Dark Raven]

But I wonder if the Themyscira scenes will tie into the Greek kingdom of Olympus then considering the Greek gods that are in this like Ares for example

Just watch it yourself. At this point it's pointless to speculate, because you're the only one speculating while those who have watched it are in the know and aren't speculating at all but speaking from knowledge. Do you really want to know all the spoilers?

 

[Wildcard]

I am merely an hour and a half away from seeing this. Will post my thoughts when I return.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

I am merely an hour and a half away from seeing this. Will post my thoughts when I return.

Have a blast.

 

[Tg11]

Well I am catching a 6:20 showing of Wonder Woman so 3 and a half more hours until I go to watch it and when I do return from it I will post up my thoughts later on in the night

 

[Keyser Sushi]

Three and a half hours to go, for me. All my WW tshirts are in the wash, I'm going to have to rock the Batfleck shirt tonight!

 

[Boom]

Easily on my top 10 list of superhero movies ever made. Can't see myself getting tired of it.

 

[roach]

Just got out. Enjoyed it

 

[idiot09]

Just got out. Enjoyed it

Nice...where does it stand compared to the other DCEU films for ya?

 

[Mister J]

I've been kicking back and forth the notion of hightailing it out of the office early for another viewing practically since I got in. New remembrances keep coming come to mind.

Merciful Minerva, I enjoyed this.

 

[audierules]

It was a lot more emotional then I expected and was really surprised about certain things. Also, WW is insanely strong which I loved.

 

[TeeKay]

I enjoyed this much more than Logan.

 

[NotNickFury]

So in hindsight, worked for the better in buying a ticket a week in advance. Just looked online at the box office and saw that this particular showing is sold out. Subsequent ones aren't sold out yet, but this one in particular looks like it's gonna be full.

 

[Mean Mr Mustard]

I need Rocksteady to make an Arkham style Wonder Woman game so bad right now XD

 

[The Guard]

Sure…

But having taken the trouble to rationalize how Diana acquires this high-tech jet, what’s the payoff? A scene of Diana at the cockpit controls? An exciting Top Gun-esque aerial dogfight? To me, these don’t seem like iconic Wonder Woman “moments” (certainly not as resonant as WW with her bracelets, lasso, etc.) - and, therefore, not really worth the set up effort.

Wonder Woman in a different type of scenario, sans flight abilities of her own.

We've seen her on the ground. A high tech aerial battle/rescue could be incredible and show an evolution of war technology and tactics. The existence of a "jet" itself was a major leap forward in terms of military technology (granted, so was the plane, but jets especially).

From swords, shields and spears to jets. In some ways, it makes perfect sense.

 

[The Guard]

Overall, can't shake the feeling that cinematically, something has been gained with this film, and something has been lost from the DCEU. Good and bad. General audiences will eat this up. More thoughts tomorrow.

I've had a day to ruminate on the film, and while I think I need another viewing, I am largely satisfied with it and proud of the accomplishments of the film and its creators and talent...but what I mean is this:

As has been pointed out elsewhere, there's a definite "paint by numbers" quality to the storytelling here compared to previous DCEU entries. Everything flows exactly as it "should", but that means there's not a ton of complexity to the proceedings, and sometimes not much tension as a result. The concepts explored are fairly complex ones, but the execution, not so much. I suppose the argument can be made that this film is more coherent as a result, and that's a good thing overall, though I think it's a tad exposition-heavy.

Because of the approach this film takes, I don't know that this will ultimately have the kind of layered, rewatch value of say, a MOS or BVS.

I will say that I'm glad they didn't seek to "Marvelize" the DCEU in any real sense. The film very much has its own identity, and doesn't lean much on the approach of any other successful franchise. And this is a definite "win" for the DCEU, and the portrayal of heroes in general, because there really is a lot of hope, heart and empathy at play, and they manage to do it without it feeling completely saccharine, which is no small feat. There's a really nice balance struck of hope and cynicism.

 

[Mean Mr Mustard]

Wonder Woman in a different type of scenario, sans flight abilities of her own.

We've seen her on the ground. A high tech aerial battle/rescue could be incredible and show an evolution of war technology and tactics. The existence of a "jet" itself was a major leap forward in terms of military technology (granted, so was the plane, but jets especially).

From swords, shields and spears to jets. In some ways, it makes perfect sense.

Please God no, I absolutely HATE the invisible jet it feels so out of place. If she needs a device to fly why not use one of the "many gifts the gods gave them" and have like...a pair of shoes that allow her to fly, something more in line with her greek mythology aspect....

 

[thebatfan5194]

Saw it last night. Really liked it. There was an annoying guy behind me though who basically a flamboyant cartoon character screaming "OH MY GOD!" at every sexual innuendo joke that made me wish the movie would stop being humorous just to spare me from this annoying guy's voice.

Regarding the movie itself though, I thought they nailed Diana as a character though. Really made me care about WW as a character more than I ever have in all my years of DC fandom. One thing I didn't really like though was the pill gas that made Ludendorf strong, as it felt very much like a writer's device to trick the audience into thinking he was Ares regaining his strength, without really giving it a reason to be there or expanding on it at all, just felt kind of cheap but this is just me nitpicking. I loved the commentary/thesis statement about man being inherently corruptible with or without Ares' influence and thought it was a mature take on it.