anyone think it was strange that storm turned on jean instantly?

[DarknessOfDeath]

Why enter a thread and completely ingore the opinions of people who actually found it had emotional value to write a pointless statement?

Exactly

-shakes head-

 

[The Kid]

i just want to say that when storm tells logan "are YOU ready to do what YOU need to do when the time comes." I don't think she was talking about edit: [just[ being part of the team. in context, it's clear he is. He just said "we're x-men, all of us." right?

She was definitely talking about killing jean, dead.
It's so clear.
during the battle, storm looks at jean and seems ready to face her but then she looks at logan to see if he's willing too as well since earlier she reminded him that they have a duty and love shouldn't get in the way basically... and, wolvy says he's the only one who can stop Jean. Storm reassured enough that logan got the message, flies off to get the hell out of there.

I think that's how it is, my interpretation anyway.

she does seem to not have any hope left at all for Jean after she kills to prof. I guess they weren't that close.

 

[gambitfire]

What the hell? Who cares about what the general public who 'haven't seen Storm's relationship with the professor' thinks? None of us are the general public, this isn't a general public board and this thread isn't titled 'Did the general public think it was strange that Storm turned on Jean instantly?'. Why go there?

Um last time i checked the GP makes up majority of ticket sales but w/e your right about the thread thing.

Once again, Storm knew it wasn't Jean's fault as well. She never blamed Jean in the slightest. No-one blamed her. Jean was gone, how could she possibly be blamed? Logan was wrong in thinking that he could bring her back. Storm knew she couldn't be saved. End of that story.
.

Storm didn't know it was Jean's fault till Wolverine mentioned it too her, and we dont' know if Jean could of been brought back or not, she came back when Logan stabbed her but whos to say she couldn't of come back sooner, we don't know its a movie w/e the execs say goes.

That didn't make any sense at all to me... .

Yes is did you just didn't get it. what i was saying is that if alot of ppl feel that when storm said you need to be ready to do Blah blah blah, alot of ppl felt that, that ment kill jean. Im sure it didn't but it came across like that.

Im basing this on the bunch of ppl ive discussed this movie with.
(thats alot of ppl)

She turned quickly in her opinion on Jean, because there was no Jean to turn on. There was the Phoenix, a power hungry killing machine. There was no 'turning against' anyone. There was only a hatred for the vicious creature who murdered Storm's father and brother figures and was slowly killing her best friend.

Brother figure?! you can shove that cuz we didn't see that, as for their only being PHOENIX!! Storm never saw that either, as a matter of fact storm didn't see anything she only saw end results she didn't see phoenix until the third act.

 

[micky-fox]

i just want to say that when storm tells logan "are YOU ready to do what YOU need to do when the time comes." I don't think she was talking about being part of the team. in context, it's clear he is. He just said "we're x-men, all of us." right?

She was definitely talking about killing jean, dead.
It's so clear.
during the battle, storm looks at jean and seems ready to face her but then she looks at logan to see if he's willing too as well since earlier she reminded him that they have a duty and love shouldn't get in the way basically... and, wolvy says he's the only one who can stop Jean. Storm reassured logan got the message, flies off to get the hell out of there.

I think that's how it is, my interpretation anyway.

she does seem to not have any hope left at all for Jean after she kills to prof. I guess they weren't that close.

You're entitled to your opinion. If that's your take on it, then so be it. But Storm would not have trusted the task of killing her to Logan. She would not plan such a thing. "Okay Logan, are you ready to kill Jean?". Whatever, dude.

 

[gambitfire]

You're entitled to your opinion. If that's your take on it, then so be it. But Storm would not have trusted the task of killing her to Logan. She would not plan such a thing. "Okay Logan, are you ready to kill Jean?". Whatever, dude.

What are you saying that she thought that Logan didn't have what it took to kill Jean , so she was wrong? i dunno where your going here.

 

[micky-fox]

Brother figure?! you can shove that cuz we didn't see that, as for their only being PHOENIX!!

Who cares what we seen? It's what we know as fans.

Storm never saw that either, as a matter of fact storm didn't see anything she only saw end results she didn't see phoenix until the third act.

I think the end results were more than enough.

 

[micky-fox]

What are you saying that she thought that Logan didn't have what it took to kill Jean , so she was wrong? i dunno where your going here.

What I'm saying is that Storm would definitely not ask Logan to kill Jean before even seeing her concious. She would not do that to Logan or Jean. She wouldn't plot her death.

 

[The Kid]

It's war.

"She made her choice." (about jean joining brotherhood.)

"now it's time to make ours." (Fighting the brotherhood, even if it means killing jean.)

"If you're with us, then be with us." (prettymuch saying, you have to give up on jean and fight the brotherhood if you want to stay in my house.)
"

 

[gambitfire]

Who cares what we seen? It's what we know as fans.

we are a few The GP is what matters once more. i wish we mattered more but sometimes we don't, altough i think we are still important.

I think the end results were more than enough.

wait for it..............

What I'm saying is that Storm would definitely not ask Logan to kill Jean before even seeing her concious. She would not do that to Logan or Jean. She wouldn't plot her death.

NOW..................................Nice Contradiction your saying she wouldn't do that but you just said the end results where enough.................

you confuse me...........i quit debating it's pointless. have fun responding to this message and thinking your right

 

[micky-fox]

It's war.

"She made her choice." (about jean joining brotherhood.)

"now it's time to make ours." (Fighting the brotherhood, even if it means killing jean.)

"If you're with us, then be with us." (prettymuch saying, you have to give up on jean and fight the brotherhood if you want to stay in my house.)
"

Well... that's your perception of the scene. Mine however was much different. Mine actually includes acknowledging the true character Storm is.

 

[The Kid]

You're entitled to your opinion. If that's your take on it, then so be it. But Storm would not have trusted the task of killing her to Logan. She would not plan such a thing. "Okay Logan, are you ready to kill Jean?". Whatever, dude.

Storm did trust logan to kill the evil witch of the west. It happened at the end part thingy climactic battle when she flies away after logan tells her he's the only one who can stop her. How is she to know logan will go through with it? she trusts him.

 

[micky-fox]

wait for it..............

NOW..................................Nice Contradiction your saying she wouldn't do that but you just said the end results where enough.................

you confuse me...........i quit debating it's pointless. have fun responding to this message and thinking your right

Hehe. Yeah...

If you paid attention to what I was saying you'd notice that I said the end results were more than enough... to make Storm realise her best friend was gone.

Immaturity is taking over the world, I swear...

 

[micky-fox]

Storm did trust logan to kill the evil witch of the west. It happened at the end part thingy climactic battle when she flies away after logan tells her he's the only one who can stop her. How is she to know logan will go through with it? she trusts him.

Yes, because that's when it came down to the crunch. It was either kill her, or die. She had no choice but to have Logan kill her. But she didn't plan on that happening.

 

[The Kid]

Well... that's your perception of the scene. Mine however was much different. Mine actually includes acknowledging the true character Storm is.

ok. I'm openminded. what is your view of it?

 

[micky-fox]

ok. I'm openminded. what is your view of it?

Basically, it's knowing that Storm wouldn't plot Jean's death, no matter how far she'd gone. In that scene, Storm was telling Logan that Jean was gone, and that he needed to choose a side. Stay wandering around, wondering if he can bring her back, or stay and focus on fighting the battle at hand... as a team.

 

[The Kid]

Yes, because that's when it came down to the crunch. It was either kill her, or die. She had no choice but to have Logan kill her. But she didn't plan on that happening.

she had a choice, I think. she didn't have to let logan do it. the plan was to go kick the brother hood's ass. And jean's part of the brotherhood now so I think she planned for the x-men, wolverine included to have to fight her at some point and we can only pressume reasonably enough that she wanted, but wasn't to sure, if wolverine would help when the time came to face jean.

 

[micky-fox]

the plan was to go ick the brother hood's ass. And jean's part of the brotherhood now so I think she planned for the x-men, wolverine included to have to fight her at some point and we can only pressume reasonably enough that she wanted, but wasn't to sure, if wolverine would help.

Yes, exactly. They had to stop the brotherhood, at any cost. But she would not percieve killing Jean in the process. In that type of situation, she had only one thought on her mind. And that was to stop them.

 

[gambitfire]

Immaturity is taking over the world, I swear...

yes your good proof of that.

It took LS to come into the Jean vs. Storm thread to be a big enough person to admit Jean can own Storm because you and WW just kept raving on about how Storm is practically god.

You need to get over storm, probably as much as i need to get over bashing this movie.

 

[micky-fox]

yes your good proof of that.

It took LS to come into the Jean vs. Storm thread to be a big enough person to admit Jean can own Storm because you and WW just kept raving on about how Storm is practically god.

You need to get over storm, probably as much as i need to get over bashing this movie.

You're forgetting that this isn't a Storm vs. Jean debate...

 

[gambitfire]

You're forgetting that this isn't a Storm vs. Jean debate...

that wasn't my point my point is you can't accept certain things, and this thread is a matter of opinion you seem to forget that.

 

[The Kid]

Yes, exactly. They had to stop the brotherhood, at any cost. But she would not percieve killing Jean in the process. In that type of situation, she had only one thought on her mind. And that was to stop them.

I'm not seeing why killing jean's not viewed as a possibility. Jean's a member of the brotherhood, so I think killing her and rest of the hood (if it came to that), was definitely a thought in her mind, especially knowing how ruthless Magneto is..

 

[micky-fox]

that wasn't my point my point is you can't accept certain things, and this thread is a matter of opinion you seem to forget that.

I'm not attacking anyone because of their opinions... I'm pretty much the one being attacked at the moment. Yes, you're right. This is a thread concerning opinions, and I'm sharing mine... this has nothing to do with my love for Storm, there are many others who see things just as I do... read the last few pages. Why should I get over Storm, just because I don't agree with you?

 

[micky-fox]

I'm not seeing why killing jean's not viewed as a possibility. Jean's a member of the brotherhood, so I think killing her and rest of the hood (if it came to that), was definitely a thought in her mind, especially knowing how ruthless Magneto is..

It might have came up, but I doubt she would have planned it.

 

[Goddessreicho]

I love it when people who argue ignore logic that was presented by the oposers.

You changing the topic proves nothing, and bring up the Phoenix vs Storm doesn't help your situation.

Your points have been seen and valid facts of oposing arguments have been presented.

If you learned anything from P v S, you should know that.

 

[gambitfire]

I'm not attacking anyone because of their opinions... I'm pretty much the one being attacked at the moment. Yes, you're right. This is a thread concerning opinions, and I'm sharing mine... this has nothing to do with my love for Storm, there are many others who see things just as I do... read the last few pages. Why should I get over Storm, just because I don't agree with you?

it's just because i feel that you don't take other opinions into consideration because of your love for the character, or the love of being right i dunno.

i maybe wrong, i don't hate the character and if you read my posts ive been taking things into consideration; im not a Storm hater!!

No one's attacking you, YOU CALLED ME IMMATURE!!!!