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COVER BY: RON GARNEY
WRITER: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
PENCILS: RON GARNEY
INKS: BILL REINHOLD
COLORED BY: AVALON - MATT MILLA
LETTERED BY: VC - CORY PETIT

THE STORY:
CIVIL WAR Tie-in
“THE WAR AT HOME”
Caught in the throes of the Civil War that’s ripping apart the super hero community, Spider-Man contemplates a move that will mean new friends and new foes. In a conflict of this magnitude, three is no middle ground -- Peter Parker’s move will cast him as either George Washington... or Benedict Arnold. Part 3 (of 6).
32 PGS./Rated A ...$2.99

PRICE: 2.99
IN STORES: 2006-09-27


Yup, think it's fairly safe to say that pete's switching sides this issue. At ****ing last :up:
 
hippy fascist said:
Yup, think it's fairly safe to say that pete's switching sides this issue. At ****ing last :up:

One can only hope...
 
Sloppy writing before this point. They deliberately wrote Parker like a dumbass *****e so as to be able to present a polarization after the switching of sides. Poor, poor, poor. From the looks of the preview, looks like we're finaly getting "our" Spider-Man back.
 
Ultimate Kaine said:
Sloppy writing before this point. They deliberately wrote Parker like a dumbass *****e so as to be able to present a polarization after the switching of sides. Poor, poor, poor. From the looks of the preview, looks like we're finaly getting "our" Spider-Man back.

Damn write, for two long spider-man has felt like he's been written to fit a story like some bit-part rather than the star he should have been. ****ing Joey "Deus Ex Machina" Q. JMS used to do a great job till he actually started paying attention to anything that fat wanker had to say :cmad:
 
oh yeah, this does look interesting. although i still don't like the idea of captives in the negative zone. seems like a bad b-movie plot!
 
arachnid-guy said:
oh yeah, this does look interesting. although i still don't like the idea of captives in the negative zone. seems like a bad b-movie plot!

to be fair, at the moment Stark is coming across as a bad b-movie villain so i guess it kinda fits :D I'm waiting for him to start waxing his moustache and walking round with a monacle :csad:
 
arachnid-guy said:
oh no! that would be the clincher....:csad:

not sure about that last panel on the first page though, pete looks like he's had an extra arse grafted onto his chin :whatever:
 
hahaha! he does!

Blame the artist. Damn you Garney! You shal turn the marvel characters into porn stars, yet! I mean Tony already looks like a macho bastrado.
 
arachnid-guy said:
hahaha! he does!

Blame the artist. Damn you Garney! You shal turn the marvel characters into porn stars, yet! I mean Tony already looks like a macho bastrado.

women pay him to give them...pleasure. There's certainly a bit of antoine from deuce bigelow creeping into his look :woot:
 
...and the book still sucks.

The artwork isn't doing it for me, to say the least. Garney used to have his own flare....his own style, bot he's drawing like a low-rent version of JR Jr. Sad....'cause I loved his Hulk stuff.

As for the story, I refuse to give praise to this book for writing Peter as smart, after having him come off as an imbecile for the past 10 issues or so. Yeah, it's a vast improvement, but it's still a direction that should have never been explored, IMHO.

As for the "prisoners in the Negative Zone" thing, that's a little over-the-top, but it is a comic book, so I'd kindly expect it.
 
hippy fascist said:
women pay him to give them...pleasure. There's certainly a bit of antoine from deuce bigelow creeping into his look :woot:

haha oooh yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if Iron Man suddenly had a vibrating ***** hidden in 'some place' in a later issue.

But, of course, this is my own sick/twisted fantasies coming (for use of a better word) through.
 
Huh... my take on all this seems to be different than most.

With the exception of New Avengers (which IMO mishanded Peter's character from the get-go) I have not seen the "lacky" or "dumbass" angle to Peter that people have been complaining about. I saw him being TRUSTING of someone who has done A LOT for him and his family, who he has respected as a hero and who initally made a lot of sense... And it isn't blind trust, as we are seeing now.

The Superhero Registration Act - what little we know about it - sounded reasonable on the surface. Understandable and inevitable. Training, accountablity, colaboration, compensation... But the "execution" of it has become over the top. (A thinly veiled, bad, exaggerated, mischaracterization of current events - give me a break - that and an obvious device to have heroes matched up in fights.) But I could see why initially Peter wouldn't have thought to start a rebellion over it.

Peter wasn't forced to unmask. That DID seem out of character for him, but I guess I can see how he could make the mistake... things seemed different... [SIZE=-1]new rules with the SHRA, unprecedented respect and sense of protection with his position in the New Avengers. (Some of his fellow heroes have been telling him for awhile that secret IDs are passe too.) [/SIZE]May and MJ are proud of him, they encouraged him. (I expected MJ to know better, but, then again, things seemed different...)

So now, as things are unfolding, Peter is learning what we've all been privy to... who are the "good guy" and who are the "bad guys."
 
As for this preview... I thought Garney's art looked better. Or, may-be I'm getting used to it...Or, probably I'm just so relieved to have characters that look a little more relatable, after enduring those goofy faces Medina draws in SSM!

BTW - Hasn't Tony mostly been drawn in this vein? The moustache... the tall dark, handsome and rich type. I don't really follow IM, that was just my impression.
 
Peter is a trusting man. Tony is a politician. Nuff said!
 
shinlyle said:
...and the book still sucks.

The artwork isn't doing it for me, to say the least. Garney used to have his own flare....his own style, bot he's drawing like a low-rent version of JR Jr. Sad....'cause I loved his Hulk stuff.

As for the story, I refuse to give praise to this book for writing Peter as smart, after having him come off as an imbecile for the past 10 issues or so. Yeah, it's a vast improvement, but it's still a direction that should have never been explored, IMHO.

As for the "prisoners in the Negative Zone" thing, that's a little over-the-top, but it is a comic book, so I'd kindly expect it.

I agree, they may be starting to make him more respectable in this preview, but he should always have been so. I can't credit fro doing something that should be done.
Besides my biggest problem now is the portrayal of REED RICHARDS and Iron man. I am a SM fan first and foremost but I am also a Marvel fan and a FF, IM and so on fan. Just as I hated the mistreamtent of PP, I'm hating the mistreatment of IM and Reed Richards.

This is insane.

insanely bad.
 
Captivated said:
Huh... my take on all this seems to be different than most.

With the exception of New Avengers (which IMO mishanded Peter's character from the get-go) I have not seen the "lacky" or "dumbass" angle to Peter that people have been complaining about. I saw him being TRUSTING of someone who has done A LOT for him and his family, who he has respected as a hero and who initally made a lot of sense... And it isn't blind trust, as we are seeing now.

The Superhero Registration Act - what little we know about it - sounded reasonable on the surface. Understandable and inevitable. Training, accountablity, colaboration, compensation... But the "execution" of it has become over the top. (A thinly veiled, bad, exaggerated, mischaracterization of current events - give me a break - that and an obvious device to have heroes matched up in fights.) But I could see why initially Peter wouldn't have thought to start a rebellion over it.

Peter wasn't forced to unmask. That DID seem out of character for him, but I guess I can see how he could make the mistake... things seemed different... [SIZE=-1]new rules with the SHRA, unprecedented respect and sense of protection with his position in the New Avengers. (Some of his fellow heroes have been telling him for awhile that secret IDs are passe too.) [/SIZE]May and MJ are proud of him, they encouraged him. (I expected MJ to know better, but, then again, things seemed different...)

So now, as things are unfolding, Peter is learning what we've all been privy to... who are the "good guy" and who are the "bad guys."

I agree with everything that you stated. :word:

:huh: :huh: :huh:

:yay:
 
Captivated said:
Huh... my take on all this seems to be different than most.

With the exception of New Avengers (which IMO mishanded Peter's character from the get-go) I have not seen the "lacky" or "dumbass" angle to Peter that people have been complaining about. I saw him being TRUSTING of someone who has done A LOT for him and his family, who he has respected as a hero and who initally made a lot of sense... And it isn't blind trust, as we are seeing now.

The Superhero Registration Act - what little we know about it - sounded reasonable on the surface. Understandable and inevitable. Training, accountablity, colaboration, compensation... But the "execution" of it has become over the top. (A thinly veiled, bad, exaggerated, mischaracterization of current events - give me a break - that and an obvious device to have heroes matched up in fights.) But I could see why initially Peter wouldn't have thought to start a rebellion over it.

Peter wasn't forced to unmask. That DID seem out of character for him, but I guess I can see how he could make the mistake... things seemed different... [SIZE=-1]new rules with the SHRA, unprecedented respect and sense of protection with his position in the New Avengers. (Some of his fellow heroes have been telling him for awhile that secret IDs are passe too.) [/SIZE]May and MJ are proud of him, they encouraged him. (I expected MJ to know better, but, then again, things seemed different...)

So now, as things are unfolding, Peter is learning what we've all been privy to... who are the "good guy" and who are the "bad guys."


:up: 'nuff said, Cap. :yay:
 
I predict that at the very end of this issue, Spidey's gonna show up at Capt. America's base and let him know that he now knows where Tony's keeping all the heroes and villains, the negative zone. At which point Pete will confirm his switching sides.
 
I love how much Reed and Tony's characters have been bastardized to make this event work. Just completly oblivious to all the wrongs and generally insane things they're doing.

"Uh yeah Peter, sending hero's who refuse to work with the goverment into the negative zone is perfectly safe for both sides. We even got a Warden who knows the territory! Named Blastar or something weird like that, never mind that! It looks like Cap's posse are trying to stop a bank robbery! Let's send Bullseye and the Green Goblin to capture them!"
 
Citizen_Kaine said:
I love how much Reed and Tony's characters have been bastardized to make this event work. Just completly oblivious to all the wrongs and generally insane things they're doing.

"Uh yeah Peter, sending hero's who refuse to work with the goverment into the negative zone is perfectly safe for both sides. We even got a Warden who knows the territory! Named Blastar or something weird like that, never mind that! It looks like Cap's posse are trying to stop a bank robbery! Let's send Bullseye and the Green Goblin to capture them!"


The thing that affected me the most was when they sent an army of psychotic killers to fight Captain America and his group....after years of putting their lives literally on the line for each other, time and time again...

Still; the story isnt over yet, so im waiting until the very end before passing final judgement..

Keep in mind, that there are plenty of "mind-control" type villains in the Marvel Universe; imagine if they all were working together in unison...
 
of course the Pro-Reg side is acting evilly
it's the f***ing goverment!
 
I don't think he's going to actually "switch sides." I think he'll be untouchable in both areas. He'll be ousted from Stark's group, and unwelcome in Cap's. I think his information will be used, but his company will not be welcome. I'm interested to see how it pans out. And Garney still kind of sucks. It feels like a filler artist.
 

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