The Amazing Spider-Man ASM Blu-ray: Most Wanted Features and Extras - Part 1

[I'm Batman.]

Bought it at Best Buy and watched it for the second time today on BluRay.

After rewatching this, I'd say Spider-Man 2 > Amazing Spider-Man = Spider-Man > Spider-Man 3. In my view, Maguire was a near perfect Peter. It might be because they started again from the beginning, I just felt the retelling of the origin was forced and unnecessary. I'm totally fine with Andrew Garfield going forward though, I thought he was good.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I don't feel that the origin was forced at all. They are starting a new trilogy from scratch, and I think they need to build the grounds for the new franchise. TASM was different enough from SM1 IMO.

 

[I'm Batman.]

Raimi's Spider-Man got the origin perfect.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Raimi's Spider-Man got the origin perfect.

Anyone else find it unsettling that TAS-M didn't even mention how he received 20/20 perfect vision after the spider bite? Imo, something that bugged me was that at least the '02 film elaborated on all the new and special things the spider bite gave Peter.

 

[I'm Batman.]

Anyone else find it unsettling that TAS-M didn't even mention how he received 20/20 perfect vision after the spider bite? Imo, something that bugged me was that at least the '02 film elaborated on all the new and special things the spider bite gave Peter.

The thing is they don't explain anything about how or why Peter and the spider combined.

 

[spider-neil]

ASM blu is the blu ray I'm watching most of the movies I've bought this year (by a mile).

As for the origin, Sam told an origin that was closer to the comics but imho the Webb origin was more engaging.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Anyone else find it unsettling that TAS-M didn't even mention how he received 20/20 perfect vision after the spider bite? Imo, something that bugged me was that at least the '02 film elaborated on all the new and special things the spider bite gave Peter.

That and the fact that we never really see him gain his strength. I think the writers felt that audiences could figure out that the spider bite gave him enhanced everything... from more strength, to perfect vision.

Remember when Dr. Connors was explaining how his vision was enhanced after taking his Lizard formula? I think this stuff will be further explained in TASM2. If they don't, its going to irk me that it was never discussed.

 

[I'm Batman.]

ASM blu is the blu ray I'm watching most of the movies I've bought this year (by a mile).

As for the origin, Sam told an origin that was closer to the comics but imho the Webb origin was more engaging.

I would've preferred that they just glossed over the origin. That would've been a better route, having the character already established as Spider-Man. In the '90s cartoon, the first episode started with him having his powers. It wasn't until later when we learn of his origin.

On a side note, I can't for the life of me remember how Garfield's Spider-Man figured out the "two fingers down for the web shooters to work." Did they show that? I'm totally blanking.

 

[Rise_-]

...The switch for his webshooters is located in his palm.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Didn't they explain in the cartoon that if he makes a fist, the webbing just won't shoot out accidentally?

 

[Anno_Domini]

That and the fact that we never really see him gain his strength. I think the writers felt that audiences could figure out that the spider bite gave him enhanced everything... from more strength, to perfect vision.

Remember when Dr. Connors was explaining how his vision was enhanced after taking his Lizard formula? I think this stuff will be further explained in TASM2. If they don't, its going to irk me that it was never discussed.

The strength doesn't bother me. Him testing his abilities, finding out how agile he is which also brought up his strength, is fine, but I would have liked to see that he noticed a difference in his eyesight as much as he noticed he could cling to surfaces or have spider sense. It's not great storytelling if the writers felt the audience should know what the spider does to Peter. If they're trying to create any new story, I don't see why not mention every new thing the spider bite does to Peter, especially when they do the origin again.

I don't remember Connors saying his vision was enhanced, but that sorta frustrates me more that Connors mentions this, but nothing is mentioned or shown with Peter's vision being enhanced.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I don't remember Connors saying his vision was enhanced, but that sorta frustrates me more that Connors mentions this, but nothing is mentioned or shown with Peter's vision being enhanced.

When Connors was in the sewer lab, recording himself taking the serum again, he mentions that his vision has been improved. This is also when Spider-Man is creating his web trap above the water.

 

[spider-neil]

The bathroom scene was a good way of showing Peter hadn't yet adjusted to having enhanced strength but I wish there was a scene where Peter tested the limits of his strength, afterall for all Peter knew he would lift a house.
Peter went from breaking off taps to having the confidence to hold a car as it fell off the bridge.

 

[Picard Sisko]

The bathroom scene was a good way of showing Peter hadn't yet adjusted to having enhanced strength but I wish there was a scene where Peter tested the limits of his strength, afterall for all Peter knew he would lift a house.
Peter went from breaking off taps to having the confidence to hold a car as it fell off the bridge.

I think as Doug Walker asked, "what would this movie be like if it was the first Spider-Man film?" I feel like they just wanted to get the origin story over with as soon as possible and get right into the action.

 

[Anno_Domini]

When Connors was in the sewer lab, recording himself taking the serum again, he mentions that his vision has been improved. This is also when Spider-Man is creating his web trap above the water.

A shame that they added that bit of dialogue about Connors talking about what the serum did to him but nothing on Peter getting 20/20 vision.

 

[spider-neil]

I think as Doug Walker asked, "what would this movie be like if it was the first Spider-Man film?" I feel like they just wanted to get the origin story over with as soon as possible and get right into the action.

I guess, but that assumes;
A) The audience is familar with the comics.
B) The audience has watched the previous movies.
Probably a safe assumption but I would have like the movie to;

1) Explore the spider-sense.
How does it work? What are the limits?

2) Explore the webs.
Much much can he use before it runs out? How long before it dissolves? DOES it dissolve?.

3) what are the limits of the spider strength?
Can he lift a truck? A train?

4) How does web crawling work?
Is it tiny hairs? If so how does it work through shoes? If it is about manipulating attraction between molecules does it work for the whole body rather than just the finger tips?

5) How did Peter make such an elaberate costume?
Did he order the separate peices online?

Sure, it may be stretching out the origin longer than needed but if you are going to do the origin then give us some answers to questions even the original trilogy failed to give answers for.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I guess, but that assumes;
A) The audience is familar with the comics.
B) The audience has watched the previous movies.
Probably a safe assumption but I would have like the movie to;

I think this is what they had in mind while writing the movie.

1) Explore the spider-sense.
How does it work? What are the limits?

I don't know if this is necessary. The point is, he has a sense that alerts him if there is danger. I think for the movie, that's all we really need to know.

2) Explore the webs.
Much much can he use before it runs out? How long before it dissolves? DOES it dissolve?.

I think this is something they are going to explore in the sequel.

3) what are the limits of the spider strength?
Can he lift a truck? A train?

^Same as #2. I think they could explain this in the sequel, though I doubt it.

4) How does web crawling work?
Is it tiny hairs? If so how does it work through shoes? If it is about manipulating attraction between molecules does it work for the whole body rather than just the finger tips?

I don't think this will be explained, unfortunately. It could be explored in the sequel, but I feel like they won't really get into this.

5) How did Peter make such an elaberate costume?
Did he order the separate peices online?

I also don't think its going to be explained further, but to be honest, do we really need to see him ordering different pieces online? Point is that we saw him making the costume out of materials he had in his house (e.g. Sunglasses).

Sure, it may be stretching out the origin longer than needed but if you are going to do the origin then give us some answers to questions even the original trilogy failed to give answers for.

I feel like this trilogy as a whole is going to be about his "origin." He is growing into Spider-Man throughout all three films, developing as a character, and as a superhero. By the end of the third film, I imagine he would have also truly learned what "responsibility" meant.

 

[Rise_-]

I don't see the importance of showing off the limits of his strength. They never did in the previous trilogy.

And they won't either, do you want to know why?

If Webb's Peter needs to be strong enough to stop a wall from a building falling onto him and somebody next to him... he'll be strong enough to stop a wall from a building falling onto him and somebody next to him. If he needs to be strong enough to stop a train... he'll be strong enough to stop a train.

 

[Spiderdevil]

A shame that they added that bit of dialogue about Connors talking about what the serum did to him but nothing on Peter getting 20/20 vision.

Too much Deja Vu

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

A shame that they added that bit of dialogue about Connors talking about what the serum did to him but nothing on Peter getting 20/20 vision.

Why is this so important to you? The spider improved everything about Peter, why do they need to state it?

 

[Rise_-]

1) Explore the spider-sense.
How does it work? What are the limits?

2) Explore the webs.
Much much can he use before it runs out? How long before it dissolves? DOES it dissolve?.

3) what are the limits of the spider strength?
Can he lift a truck? A train?

4) How does web crawling work?
Is it tiny hairs? If so how does it work through shoes? If it is about manipulating attraction between molecules does it work for the whole body rather than just the finger tips?

5) How did Peter make such an elaberate costume?
Did he order the separate peices online?

Sure, it may be stretching out the origin longer than needed but if you are going to do the origin then give us some answers to questions even the original trilogy failed to give answers for.

1. Well I mean it was obvious in the movie that it's something that warns him of danger around him.

2. Probably not. Considering it's used in aircrafts. Although Peter might have done something to it so it dissolves, y'know, so people don't realise it's from Oscorp or something.

3. I posted a reply to this already, lol.

4. Probably just how a real spider sticks to surfaces. Because it's in a human and not a spider, it's probably strong enough to work through less than an inch of rubber. But it's probably weaker in his feet if he's wearing shoes.

5. Well, the hints are in the movie. He's looking at Luge suits online. The shoes are... well, from shoes. The lenses are from sunglasses.

He might have ordered 2 suits like this or something:

Then he could have cut them up into the base red and blue suit before adding the fine details with the silk screen press.

Peter also has a 3D printer in his room, so he could have knocked out the frames for his lenses using that.

And yes it is stretching out the origin for longer than needed, we don't really need to know any of these in extreme detail. It would have been cool to linger on some of these (like the suit) for longer than they did though.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Too much Deja Vu

How? Or simply put, they could've taken out Connors saying his vision was enhanced and gave that dialogue to Peter with mentioning how his sigh became better. He switched his contacts for his dad's glasses, and then he has no glasses with no explanation.

Why is this so important to you? The spider improved everything about Peter, why do they need to state it?

Why do an origin all over again and NOT state, mention or show everything the spider enhances?

 

[Juicy J]

Why do an origin all over again and NOT state, mention or show everything the spider enhances?

Because they are, as you said, doing the origin all over again. There's really not a need to retread what all the changes are made in Spider-man's body; pretty much everyone knows his powers and how he changed.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Because they are, as you said, doing the origin all over again. There's really not a need to retread what all the changes are made in Spider-man's body; pretty much everyone knows his powers and how he changed.

So one extra thing isn't needed when everything else is hinted or mentioned or shown?

 

[Picard Sisko]

Its really fine the way it is. Going back to blu-ray features, I am really disappointed that Andrew Garfield or Emma Stone weren't a part of the commentary. Webb was great, but then we had Matt Tolmach and Avi Arad talking with him... ugh