The Amazing Spider-Man ASM: Stuff You Didn't Like Thread

[LordofhouseEl]

Something else I didn't like... how they just sort of passed over the creation of the suit.

The creation of the suit was all of 15 seconds. They show him putting the lenses into the mask and creating the logo but that was it. The suit has so much damn incredible detail in it and it just comes from nowhere. Although, we could assume he purchased it online since he was looking at spandex on different sites. Is that what you guys assumed?

He got the materials and put it together, I could be wrong but I swear there was a scene of Peter learning how to sew on his computer.

 

[The Guard]

The material used for the webbing was designed by Oscorp how hard would it be for someone with the resources of the police to trace that back to Oscorp. Also the police have a picture of the perpetrator who killed Ben. A bit of detective work could easily lead to the discovery that the pattern is connected to a murder suspect. These are not things I have a huge problem with just a passing thought.

How are the police going to find out that this is developed by Oscorp? It seemed like rather a secret project to me.

 

[Jexx]

I hated it when the credits rolled and I couldn't watch the rest of the story.

 

[Nemeres]

I didn't like Uncle Ben's corny speech before Peter storms out. I know it was very significant, and this film's equivalent of "With great power comes great responsibility", but it seemed forced as hell. They are only talking about him walking Aunt May from work after all. Very simple, almost trivial stuff. No need to get all solemn, Ben.

I didn't like the Lizard's abrupt arrival to the school, either. One second, it's just a regular high school, everything's normal... the next, A HUGE ****ING MUTANT LIZARD APPEARS. EVERYONE RUN!!!! Just too abrupt, and a little random.

It was next to impossible in a 1st viewing not to compare this film to SM1 as it played along. That's why I understand when people say they enjoyed it more the 2nd time around.

But I liked it. Nowhere near the hecatomb that SM 3 was. 7.5/10, subject to an upgrade after a 2nd viewing.

 

[Eddie Brock]

I didn't like Uncle Ben's corny speech before Peter storms out. I know it was very significant, and this film's equivalent of "With great power comes great responsibility", but it seemed forced as hell. They are only talking about him walking Aunt May from work after all. Very simple, almost trivial stuff. No need to get all solemn, Ben.

Trivial? Uncle Ben went out at night and got shot. But it's not just about Aunt May's safety. It's a matter of responsibility. Peter messed up, forcing Uncle Ben to switch shifts, so it became Peter's responsibility to take care of Aunt May. He shirked that responsibility and ignored calls from Uncle Ben. Pretty much any parent would react the same way.

I didn't like the Lizard's abrupt arrival to the school, either. One second, it's just a regular high school, everything's normal... the next, A HUGE ****ING MUTANT LIZARD APPEARS. EVERYONE RUN!!!! Just too abrupt, and a little random.

I don't understand. Should he have knocked? Came in through the front door, visited the main office, and got a visitor's pass?

 

[Sasobek]

I don't understand. Should he have knocked? Came in through the front door, visited the main office, and got a visitor's pass?

That, or they could have shown him with the two girls from the Comic Con footage.

I think the major complaint I have is knowing way too many scenes from the movie before I saw it. I wouldn't have thought twice about the Spider-Man point of view scene or the Lizard coming up from the school bathroom had I not have known about the scenes before hand. Since I did, I was expecting two girls to get eaten by a 9 foot tall Lizard and Spider-Man's point of view scene to be about 25 seconds longer. Instead I was disappointed they were cut.

The internet has jaded me.

 

[Nemeres]

Trivial? Uncle Ben went out at night and got shot. But it's not just about Aunt May's safety. It's a matter of responsibility. Peter messed up, forcing Uncle Ben to switch shifts, so it became Peter's responsibility to take care of Aunt May. He shirked that responsibility and ignored calls from Uncle Ben. Pretty much any parent would react the same way.

Yes, but the whole "Your father thought that when people have the power to help others, it's theit responsibility to do so!" talk was just too much for such a simple affair. He was irresponsible, but it was too much for too little. The reaction is justified, but the words, the speech itself, it was just too overdone, and unjustified, considering that Ben is NOT aware that these are the last words he'll ever say to Peter.

I don't understand. Should he have knocked? Came in through the front door, visited the main office, and got a visitor's pass?

Ever seen Jaws, or Jurassic Park? These people have probably never seen anything so surreal in their lives. The scene could have used some ominous build up to make ir more effective. It plays LITERALLY like I described. A giant lizard is an uncommon enough sight that when one actually pops out of nowhere, without any sort of build up, it plays a little laughably. See it again, you'll know what I mean.

 

[Sharkboy]

Theres nothing that offended me in this film, which is sort of a problem in itself, I felt the films biggest sin was playing it too safe. Take most of the beats from SM1, change the tone, rely on andrew and emma to bring it, change the villain....but that's it. Structure wise it's the same as any other superhero film.

Even the Avengers with it's serious lack of plot decided to go a dirty dozen route and have a very specific structure tailored to it's strengths (assemble, character building, non-stop action), but this film just didn't step on any toes, it keeps it's head down and gives fans what they want, nothing is bad about this...but it's 2012, and it's a film about one of the big three superheros in the world. Easily Marvel's most popular, i think Sony should have been a little gutsy and tried to change things up a bit...fanboys be damned.

 

[LordofhouseEl]

How are the police going to find out that this is developed by Oscorp? It seemed like rather a secret project to me.

No it wasn't secret, Peter ordered it on the internet. You know what I think we are on completely diffrent pages.

 

[PSYLENTGuardian]

Peter must have a lot of money to afford a set of athletic blue spandex, a set of red spandex, patterned reflective sunglasses, and a box of Oscorp's super-special webbing.

I mean, give or take with the sunglasses, but from what I've seen so far from the internet, two sets of spandex alone are a lot out of a high school teen's pocket, especially without a job But hey, I can't afford to look too deep into this and start nitpicking, considering it's just a movie.

 

[StarLord]

My only issues were with Lizard's voice and the news reporters following Spidey at the end, was similar to the awful part in SM3.

 

[SingItWithMeNow]

Not a fan of "hot cocoa... Cant, im having my period" gag

 

[Doctor Jones]

I am in total agreement with you about the mechanical web. The way it was done in this movie, it's just made into a hinderance. He didn't create the web himself, he just steals it from Oscorp. And the moment someone took a video of the mysterious Spider-Man slinging through the city, Oscorp would have realized that someone is stealing their work. That's almost a plot hole that Oscorp is not following up on an investigation of someone using their revolutionary billion dollar idea. And now he has got to regularly steal web from Oscorp. It was more comic accurate to use mechanics but they went about it a sloppy way with little thought.

This could be something they could address in the sequel. Especially if Norman is introduced. With him there, he'll take an obvious interest in Spider-Man and have very strong suspicions about him. And one of the things he could find out himself is how he got the webbing from Oscorp. I was thinking for the sequel, at the end of the film, Norman will find out Spider-Man's identity. This could be very cool, especially with Harry and Peter's relationship in the mix.

Something else I didn't like... how they just sort of passed over the creation of the suit.

The creation of the suit was all of 15 seconds. They show him putting the lenses into the mask and creating the logo but that was it. The suit has so much damn incredible detail in it and it just comes from nowhere. Although, we could assume he purchased it online since he was looking at spandex on different sites. Is that what you guys assumed?

I liked it. At first I was worried that we would see this whole creation scene when we saw the making of the eyes, but then that's all we saw. We knew Peter made the suit himself, but not to the extent of showing the details. The eye thing I could believe where that came from. But in making that suit? That material? In pretty much everything we know, even without showing Peter making it, he had to have made it himself. There's no other way. But if we were to see him making it, how could we believe this kid just came up with these materials and created this elegant suit himself? These two things conflict with eachother so it's better not to show it. Leave it to the imagination.

Now, he looked on the internet to find material. After not appearing to find anything, did he just give up and make the material himself or did he eventually find it online?

I didn't mind the painting of the symbol either though. It's one of those things where you can imagine it yourself without seeing it, but it was still cool. It's just Peter sitting there and however making the suit himself with that kind of mterial isn't something I can really believe.

Raimi just showed the drawing as an original fantastical idea by Peter and it wasn't until after his death that he took that drawing seriously and considered to use this idea to do good.

More time or more scenes don't equate to being better.

It's the art of subtlety, my friend. I promise you it's there. They just aren't throwing it in your face. And the scene you suggest? Raimi didn't even go there until SM2, so...

It's there, but not the point where I felt it at all times. After Ben's death you saw Aunt May's and Peter's reaction, but then continued where he was looking for the bad guy, which was great. Especially that scene afterwards when he beat up that thug and was chased. When Peter was being ganged up by those thugs and was fighting them off, the music, and that scene made you feel and understand what Peter was going through.

Then it was dropped in favor of the Connors plot. It didn't feel like this continuous thread existing all through. Yeah you had the mention of responsibility and Peter feeling responsible for him, but screenplay wise, it just didn't feel emotionally cohesive enough where I could connect the dots emotionally throughout the plot. With the Raimi film, you had that one wide shot of Peter coming home and telling Aunt May, then the post graduation scene. I also liked how SM2 confession scene was a sequel/continuation of this one. Peter finally having the courage to confess to Aunt May all this time is really powerful.

Going from Peter looking at the drawing, to the hero montage really felt like Peter as Spider-Man was doing all of this good because of Uncle Ben. It continued and his actions spoke. Not to mention, you had the reflective relationship of Harry/Norman and Peter/Norman throughout the film and Norman's offer resulting in Peter's line at the end about Ben being his real father. It all tied together in a nice bow.

 

[Golgo-13]

I did NOT like the slow mo shots in the final swing. It took me out of the swing...

 

[psylockolussus]

Then later on he's all lovey dovey on Pete because Ben died. The filmmakers make it seem like we should suddenly like this character. WTH? Such a drastic, unsupported change in character. The Flash in the beginning would have probably been glad to kill Peter if he could get away with it.

Yeah I agree with this!

 

[Jexx]

Err... I think Hit-Girl is over-exaggerating the Flash in the beginning.

 

[ALP]

I did NOT like the slow mo shots in the final swing. It took me out of the swing...

I didn't like that the web shot out maybe five inches and then the movie went off. That just seemed totally off. Wouldn't it have looked way better for the slo-mo web to spray the whole screen or at least shoot all the way out and then cut to black?

 

[Jexx]

I think my friend described the above accurately when she said "That was such a tease"

 

[Eddie Brock]

Ever seen Jaws, or Jurassic Park? These people have probably never seen anything so surreal in their lives. The scene could have used some ominous build up to make ir more effective. It plays LITERALLY like I described. A giant lizard is an uncommon enough sight that when one actually pops out of nowhere, without any sort of build up, it plays a little laughably. See it again, you'll know what I mean.

I have seen it, twice. The Lizard comes up through the sewer in the bathroom. I don't see how you can extend that any further, barring a pointless scene of Lizzie waltzing down the sewers, whistling to himself. This is an action movie, not a suspense film. I don't need a long build-up to a fight I already know is coming.

 

[Jexx]

Even in Jurassic Park the T-Rex comes up pretty much out of nowhere...

 

[Spider Edge]

ok, so I'm a bit confused.

I know that in here, we have been discussing the possibility that Peter ordered the web cartridges and/or fluid off of the Internet.

yet, in the carjacking scene, doesn't Peter say something like "Oh, this is webbing that I came up with myself, but you wouldn't be interest in that stuff" or something like that?

I went back and watched the carjacking scene on Youtube, but I don't know if the clip released several months ago was an earlier version of the one in the final film. But, I do seem to remember him saying that in the film, though.

so, that seems to suggest that Peter DID create the web fluid himself. for those who can remember, did Peter indeed say that in the carjacking scene?

 

[Eddie Brock]

Methinks Peter was just talking s*** to the carjacker. That, or he isn't going to say, "It's webbing that I ordered off OsCorp's website. It's actually really easy to get your hands on. Just Bing 'OsCorp bio-cable,' and you can order it by the bulkload."

 

[Jexx]

I think he meant he designed the webshooters himself.

Also.. is the web fluid actually just some highly developed cabling, or is it spun by the spiders?

 

[Spider Edge]

Methinks Peter was just talking s*** to the carjacker. That, or he isn't going to say, "It's webbing that I ordered off OsCorp's website. It's actually really easy to get your hands on. Just Bing 'OsCorp bio-cable,' and you can order it by the bulkload."

so instead of bragging about his scientific prowess.......Peter was boasting about creating something he didn't actually create?? Peter is such a liar!!!

 

[Jexx]

I think he meant he designed the webshooters himself.

Also.. is the web fluid actually just some highly developed cabling, or is it spun by the spiders?

If it's spun by the spiders, why doesn't Peter just go and get a male and female spiders and host a spider-farm?