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Assassin's Creed Syndicate

well, there's bound to be some good deals and bundles this BF. and I'm sure you'll be able to find Unity or Syndicate for a good price then, too.

I haven't heard anything about a standalone 1TB console, though.

but keep in mind, with the PS4, it's fairly easy to upgrade the hdd yourself. so you can always upgrade to 1TB later on if you feel the need.

still, it would be nice if they did offer a standalone 1TB console this Holiday.
Yeah, I have a friend who keeps telling me that as easy as it is to install a 2TB drive, the bigger the drive, the less reliable it may be, so I'm a bit hesitant. I have more trust in Sony providing their own drive, as opposed to me installing one that may crap out 6 months in.

Ultimately it depends on what the options are by next month. Sony announced a price drop and put it into effect just days later, so I wouldn't be surprised if they just dropped a 1TB version the week before Black Friday. If not, I'll get a hard drive, hopefully on sale, and maybe find a nice 500GB bundle, like the Uncharted Collection one and get that.

I also got Unity last month on sale for $10, which has been my game plan since I started working. Since I don't have much time to play anyway at the moment, there's no point in buying every new game right away, so instead, I'm waiting each week to see what new deals go up and if I don't have a game by BF, I know I'll find a good price for it by then. Like I already know Syndicate will be about $40 on BF, so I can wait.
 
Yeah, I have a friend who keeps telling me that as easy as it is to install a 2TB drive, the bigger the drive, the less reliable it may be, so I'm a bit hesitant. I have more trust in Sony providing their own drive, as opposed to me installing one that may crap out 6 months in.

Ultimately it depends on what the options are by next month. Sony announced a price drop and put it into effect just days later, so I wouldn't be surprised if they just dropped a 1TB version the week before Black Friday. If not, I'll get a hard drive, hopefully on sale, and maybe find a nice 500GB bundle, like the Uncharted Collection one and get that.

I also got Unity last month on sale for $10, which has been my game plan since I started working. Since I don't have much time to play anyway at the moment, there's no point in buying every new game right away, so instead, I'm waiting each week to see what new deals go up and if I don't have a game by BF, I know I'll find a good price for it by then. Like I already know Syndicate will be about $40 on BF, so I can wait.

$10 for Unity is definitely a good price.

as for a standard 1TB model, it's certainly possible Sony could still announce and release one for the Holidays. However, they may not want to detract from the BLOPS limited edition model.

Last year, when MS released the 1TB COD model, they didn't release a standard 1TB model until this year.

and since you don't have much time to play anyways, then 500GB may be more than enough for you, at least initially.

but, of course, if they do release a standard 1TB PS4 for the Holidays, and it's only $50 more than the 500GB one, then I'd go for the 1TB model just for the convenience factor of not having to upgrade yourself.

but if they won't be releasing that until next year, then I'd buy a 500GB bundle now, especially if there are good deals this BF/Xmas.
 
Yeah, I have a friend who keeps telling me that as easy as it is to install a 2TB drive, the bigger the drive, the less reliable it may be, so I'm a bit hesitant. I have more trust in Sony providing their own drive, as opposed to me installing one that may crap out 6 months in.
Sony doesnt make hard drives. Their stock HDDs are ones you can buy out in a store right now. Its not like its a proprietary component like their controller. I really wouldnt be too worried. Your system isnt any less reliable buying your own harddrive as opposed to Sony doing it bc again they are getting it from other companies, just like you will
 
I used a WD 1TB hdd, and I've used it for about a year now with no problems ( so far ).
 
$10 for Unity is definitely a good price.

as for a standard 1TB model, it's certainly possible Sony could still announce and release one for the Holidays. However, they may not want to detract from the BLOPS limited edition model.

Last year, when MS released the 1TB COD model, they didn't release a standard 1TB model until this year.

and since you don't have much time to play anyways, then 500GB may be more than enough for you, at least initially.

but, of course, if they do release a standard 1TB PS4 for the Holidays, and it's only $50 more than the 500GB one, then I'd go for the 1TB model just for the convenience factor of not having to upgrade yourself.

but if they won't be releasing that until next year, then I'd buy a 500GB bundle now, especially if there are good deals this BF/Xmas.
Yeah, I'm still holding on to see what's available. Personally, I loved the Syndicate/Watch Dogs Bundle that was announced for Europe, and I would've totally jumped on that. But if the CoD bundle remains the only way to get 1TB, I might consider buying that and selling the game to my brother if it's a physical copy, since I know his son is going to want it.

The other thing is, I had originally planned on saving a lot of money to get a PS4 and many games on sales by Black Friday, but now I'm considering getting a new home computer since mine is as old as my PS3 (5 years) so I might try to see if I can just get a PS4 and a Desktop for less that $1,000. I've considered just getting a computer and hooking it up for PC gaming, but I much prefer the console experience, plus the desktop is more for my art so I don't want to put too much on it.

Ultimately it all comes down to what's the best value I can get. If I can't get something on Black Friday, I'm sure they'll be some good Christmas deals in the following month, but my end goal is to use the 2 weeks I'll have off from work to catch up on all of the gaming I've missed out on in the last 2 years.

Sony doesnt make hard drives. Their stock HDDs are ones you can buy out in a store right now. Its not like its a proprietary component like their controller. I really wouldnt be too worried. Your system isnt any less reliable buying your own harddrive as opposed to Sony doing it bc again they are getting it from other companies, just like you will
Well to clarify what I meant, I'm worried that if I install a hard drive myself, and it craps out in 6 months, I most likely won't be able to exchange it or anything because the warranty will be voided. But if I were to get a 1TB, Sony installed drive (or even the 500GB one) and it craps out, I feel like Sony would replace it at no cost if it's within warranty.

It's just the last thing I want is to spend $85 on a 2TB drive and then it craps out and I'm stuck going back to the 500gb drive. I think the happy compromise is getting the 1TB, but I will admit, after going from an iphone that had 8gb of space to one with 64gb, It sure is a great feeling to not have to worry about making space for things on a daily basis.
 
Well to clarify what I meant, I'm worried that if I install a hard drive myself, and it craps out in 6 months, I most likely won't be able to exchange it or anything because the warranty will be voided. But if I were to get a 1TB, Sony installed drive (or even the 500GB one) and it craps out, I feel like Sony would replace it at no cost if it's within warranty.

It's just the last thing I want is to spend $85 on a 2TB drive and then it craps out and I'm stuck going back to the 500gb drive. I think the happy compromise is getting the 1TB, but I will admit, after going from an iphone that had 8gb of space to one with 64gb, It sure is a great feeling to not have to worry about making space for things on a daily basis.
that still shouldnt matter. If your HDD crapped out, Sony wouldnt replace it as you wouldnt be going to them. You'd go to the hard drive manufacturer and most of them have a 2-5 year warranty depending on brand/model. The PS4 only has 1 year. I think you are being paranoid for no reason

Besides, PS4 warranty is NOT voided if you change your hard drive. That is a feature endorsed and fully supported by Sony!
 
do they even make 2TB internal hdds that are less than $100?
 
http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&ke...hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_2t9c7oajz_b

Most with a 2tb tend to go with the Samsung. Im going to upgrade by the end of the year. Hopefully holiday has some decent sales. Im to the point where I cant update my games bc I dont have enough space

ah, thanks.

I know when I was shopping around last year at my local stores, the only 2TB that I saw was a Seagate one for like $150 or something.

I think 1TB is sufficient for my needs so I don't feel the need to upgrade. But, I suppose if/when I do, then 2TB drives will probably be cheaper and more readily available at local stores.
 
anyways, back to AC Syndicate.

any reviews out yet?
 
anyways, back to AC Syndicate.

any reviews out yet?

you would think that Ubisoft learned its lesson and holding an embargo before release isnt a good sign. Hopefully this isnt a disaster like Unity
 
that still shouldnt matter. If your HDD crapped out, Sony wouldnt replace it as you wouldnt be going to them. You'd go to the hard drive manufacturer and most of them have a 2-5 year warranty depending on brand/model. The PS4 only has 1 year. I think you are being paranoid for no reason

Besides, PS4 warranty is NOT voided if you change your hard drive. That is a feature endorsed and fully supported by Sony!
The reason I'm paranoid is because I had a 2TB WD external drive that stopped working after 6 months, another older 1TB drive that only worked when my friend hooked it up to a dock, since he works in IT and had the equipment for it ... so that's where my apprehension comes into play.

But I am definitely feeling more reassured through these series of comments, and I guess the only think left to think about is which bundle should I get. With the price drop, it makes more sense to get something like the Uncharted bundle where I get a game "free" game with the console, but I'd love to see a multi-game bundle like they had last year.
 
you would think that Ubisoft learned its lesson and holding an embargo before release isnt a good sign. Hopefully this isnt a disaster like Unity
I'm still curious as to why the game was released on a Friday. I feel like more and more games are opting for Friday releases lately.
^ ah good.

hope the reviews are good.
From what I've heard based on early impressions, they seem to be mostly positive. But then again, a lot of people are basing judgments off of how bad Unity was, so not being a glitch-fest from the jump is a positive, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's an overall positive experience.
 
I'm still curious as to why the game was released on a Friday. I feel like more and more games are opting for Friday releases lately
I dont know but its a trend that I hate. Home movie releases are doing this more and more as well
 
btw.....do we know if the Gold Edition that includes the Season Pass includes a physical copy of the game?

I've heard recent instances of these limited editions only including digital copies.
 
I dont know but its a trend that I hate. Home movie releases are doing this more and more as well
I'm fine with it. Means I get to play later without having to get up early the next morning for work.
 
Someone got the game early and the impressions are not good:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1127718

I did read this and there are no spoilers.

Just to point out, I'm talking about the PS4 version.
The sellers here in the middle east are selling it super early for ridiculous prices. Being an AC fan since the days of AC2, I rushed and paid the extra money to play it as soon as possible. (This happened with MGSV: The Phantom Pain and pretty much all big releases).

I was really surprised by how bad and ''old'' it looked when compared with last year's AC: Unity. Unity sucked, I'll admit that much, but you absolutely can't deny how beautiful it looked. It felt like a painting in motion. Facial animation was amazing and I especially liked the way they animated the hair (-that red head I forgot the name of-'s hair).

As for mechanics, scaling buildings was pretty fluent and you rarely reached a point where Arno just stopped and couldn't climb or move forward. He was also capable of leaping from a very high building to a shorter, much further one, making the game flow much better than ever. I expected only greatness from Syndicate, even though I haven't followed its news as sincerely as I had hoped (busy college life).

So it came as a shock to me when I started it up 2 days ago and realized how bad it was. First of all, a sort of disclaimer: I don't care for graphics as much as I do gameplay. But I simply can't ignore how ugly the game looks, especially after being treated to the beauty that was Unity last year. So without further delay, let's begin the criticism. The ''painting in motion'' graphical style of Unity is swapped for a very dull looking world that will instantly remind you of Watch Dogs. But I get it, this is a different, more modern setting, so maybe this was intentional. Moving on.

Graphics are a serious let down. Granted this is still one of the better looking PS4 games, but when compared to Unity, it feels like such a copout.

Lip synching is almost non existent, instead characters will just flap their mouths when talking. Light reflects off of faces in a very muddy, pixelated way that makes characters look like plastic. The amazing hair details that were present in Unity are swapped for what looks like plain paper. Where is the graphical fidelity delivered by Unity, a game 1 year older? I know I've probably said the word ''graphics'' a dozen times already, but I can't help but point it out. When you play ANY game, you expect its sequel to improve on its aspects, not scrap them all in favor of cheaper, more productive methods.

So going into Syndicate expecting something better, or at least rivaling Unity, I was surprised and disappointed to find that the opposite happened. Aside from the graphical downgrade, I also noticed some severe gameplay downgrades too. But before that, a major WARNING to all of you disappointed by Unity's technical problems: Syndicate is a broken mess! Throughout the 10 hours I've put into the game so far, I've experienced these technical issues:

-In the first hour of gameplay, right after I was put into the open world, I was greeted with a group of a dozen civilians floating in the middle of the air. They disappeared a few seconds later. I didn't think much of it; it's a glitch, it happens.

-One of the earliest cut scenes broke on me. Without spoiling anything, both Jacob and Evie enter a train, with Jacob carrying a grappling gun. Suddenly both him and Evie disappear, with only the gun remaining, flailing around as dialog continued to play. I had to exit and re-open the game for the cut scene to play right. This happened with 2 cut scenes so far. Note that I'm only 10 hours into the game and I barely scratched the surface. If it's as bad now, imaging how it will be 20 or 30 hours down the road.

-The game's frame rate is atrocious. Not as bad as Unity's, at least not so far, but it doesn't make it any better.

-The game froze on me twice. Once when I was in the open world, and another time during a cut scene.
---I realize that 2 patches are supposed to come out on day one, 3 days from now, probably to iron out the mess that is Syndicate right now. But even still, both patches amount to a total of 1 GB, so what the hell is that even supposed to fix? It took a multitude of patches, the biggest of which was over 6 GB in size to make Unity playable. So I imagine we'll be stuck with this broken game for quite some time.
Aside from technical issues, let's delve into the mechanics. The game doesn't flow nearly as good as Unity. For some reason you can't jump from building to building unless they were a few meters close to one another. Running around on roofs you will be annoyed with a run-and-stop-and-run rhythm, because your so called ''assassins'' were probably not taught to jump across long distances. This is really frustrating.
Putting it in simpler words: -In AC Unity: You're on a roof and there's a building in the distance you wish to reach. You run and jump across roofs, no matter how far or impossible it may seem, in one fast paced series of fluid movements.
-In AC Syndicate: You're on a roof and there's a building in the distance you wish to reach. You run and reach the end of the roof, expecting your character to fluently jump to the adjacent but far one, but instead he/she stutters and stops. You press the damn R2 button and keep pressing X, but you soon realize that you just can't do far jumps in this depressing game. Instead, you're forced to climb down to the street, move towards your desired building and climb. You see where I'm going with this? It breaks the flow of a game that's supposed to be fast paced.
Yeah, they introduced the grappling hook as a means to make traveling faster, probably as a last resort because they knew how sloppy and broken the rhythm of the game was. But even that doesn't work properly. You can't aim the hook. You want to grapple it to a building in the distance? Well you better pray to God it doesn't grapple onto irrelevant crap, like the various poles or fences around it. I've put in around 10 hours into the game, and I know it isn't enough to warrant a full review, but it was enough for me to know what I had gotten myself into. Sadly the one feeling I have towards it is pure disappointment.
Extra notes:
-I initially liked the concept of having 2, completely switchable characters. It immediately reminded me of GTA5. I expected each character to give me a different feel of gameplay. For example Jacob would be more of a brawler, with slower movements but deadlier attacks. He'll have a different set of weapons and upgrades accessible ONLY by him. On the other hand, Evie would be the stealthier one, with very fast reflexes and high speed parkour, albeit a more fragile body and a smaller health bar. That's what I expected at least. I know, silly me. This is Ubisoft after all. Instead, we got literally the same character under 2 different skins: A male one and a female one. They both play EXACTLY the same. Sure, Evie is labeled as the stealthier one in the story, but in gameplay she plays exactly like Jacob. They even have the exact same set of upgrades and both can wield the exact same weapons. So what is the point of giving us 2 characters if they're not going to utilize the possibilities? It feels like they included Evie as a playable one just to appeal to a larger, female oriented audience. Who knows.
-The driving aspect is something that I actually like, for some weird reason. I didn't expect it to be this fun.
-I have to give it to the game: Despite its major shortcomings, so far I'm really digging Jacob and Evie. They have this cool quality to them, which is something I haven't seen in AC since Ezio.
----I wasn't planning on posting this so early, but I was too frustrated at the game that I eventually rage quit and rushed over here to post a review/warning.
If you're a major and loyal fan of the series, like me, then I doubt what I wrote will change your mind about buying it. However, if you're a passer by who enjoys some AC every now and then, this is seriously not the game for you. Go buy AC4, or hell buy Unity. It's fixed by now, it's far, FAR better looking, and the gameplay exceeds the mess we have in Syndicate.
EDIT: Something I forgot to mention is how massive the world is. This is the biggest AC has ever been, and the attention to architectural detail is astounding. 10 hours in and I can't even begin to fathom how I'll be able to explore the entirety of the map.
EDIT2: It seems some people are doubting whether or not I have the game. So here are 2 images of the disc, with a piece of paper having my user name and the date, as suggested by a skeptic user. Seriously, what would I gain by spending over 30 minutes typing this review if I never even had the game?
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...4b4e96f6e84a4a
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...ab273093b922cc
EDIT 3: I realize I posted this in the wrong place. People are attacking me from all sides. Some even called me out on not being a member of Reddit for long, as if it has ANYTHING to do with playing and reviewing a God damned game. Even after posting pictures of the disc, some still remain skeptic and are asking me to upload videos. All I did was state my opinion and list the experiences I had while playing it. But some of you are so far up Ubisoft's ass that you can't take any sort of criticism. I will refrain from replying to anyone anymore. To those still calling me out, **** you. To those who supported me and defended me against the multitude of attacks, thank you.
I'm not buying the game on release but doesn't sound good. I haven't bought even Unity yet.
 
I was reminded that I pre ordered this at GameStop yesterday. I seriously think I may have been drunk when I did so. I want to love it. Just like I wanted to love Unity. And don't get me wrong, Unity isn't a terrible game it's just not that great either. Who knows maybe I'll give in for the winter before Uncharted comes out.

PS. GameStop sales people are horrible. Or at least the corporate scripts they are forced to repeat are. It was seriously a ten step process to buy one thing yesterday.
 
I'm kinda tempted to not believe that impression. He compares it to Unity, and how Unity was bad in many ways, but graphically was better and stuff, but based on what I've seen from gameplay videos, it looks much better than Unity did, and early impressions from most sites seem to agree that Unity was lacking visually.

But then again, part of me doesn't want to believe that this game is on par or worse than Unity.
 
I was reminded that I pre ordered this at GameStop yesterday. I seriously think I may have been drunk when I did so. I want to love it. Just like I wanted to love Unity. And don't get me wrong, Unity isn't a terrible game it's just not that great either. Who knows maybe I'll give in for the winter before Uncharted comes out.

PS. GameStop sales people are horrible. Or at least the corporate scripts they are forced to repeat are. It was seriously a ten step process to buy one thing yesterday.
In all seriousness, if you can wait 3-4 weeks, I can guarantee the price will drop to at most $40 by Black Friday. Plus, Gamestop is horrible in general. I never shop there because they really do try to squeeze every nickel and dime out of you.
 
I'll take it with a grain of salt. He's playing a pre-patch game, so bugs are (unfortunately) expected.

Gameplay videos show that the grapple works very similar to the grapple in the Batman games, so while you may not be able to aim it at every thing, you do have the freedom to chose from predetermined grapple points.

As for both characters being "exactly" the same...while I don't doubt that at their core, they are the same, devs have said (and gameplay shows) that both have different stats and specials (for example, Evie has the "Chameleon" ability, making her virtually invisible). It's possible though that these differences don't present themselves until more than 10 hours in to the game.

Gameplay videos also show that the free running looks pretty smooth and fun.

I dunno. I'll see what official reviews say tomorrow.
 

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