Avatar: The Legend Of Korra - Part 3

[Thundercrack85]

Am I the only one who finds the logistics of a North Pole-South Pole war amusing?

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

But... like Air, Earth is everywhere. It's the very ground you stand on. I duuno, it just seems fire get too much love in this franchise and Earth so little. You're right about Korra's temper matching a fire bender's but it's also resembles earth as well. It seems even more over used when she has a boyfriend who is also a fire bender.

The season is still young, so perhaps she'll show more variation in her offense as time passes.

I really doubt Fire gets too much love over earth. Like Loki said, Korra's temperment is more like Fire because she gets very passionate and Energetic. Not to mention, Korra does use earthbending, but more for defense instead of offense, though she has used it offensively before (like when she saved both Bolin and Mako from the extremists when they kidnapped Bolin).

 

[Thundercrack85]

Korra has the temperament of a Fire Bender, so it makes sense that its her go to element. Plus, you don't need to actually have fire around (do you hear that Shyamalan) in order to Firebend, unlike Earth and Waterbending. Actually, I like to see Korra meet and interact with old man Zuko at some point. If ANYONE could understand her and give her good advice, it would be him. He is the original character who Korra most resembles.

Well, I don't think the original show really gave us enough examples with temperament.

True the Fire Benders were a mostly an angry, imperialistic bunch, but if Iroh is any indication, that may just be a social trend. Arguably Zuko's (and Azula's, and perhaps even Ozai's) problems stem from child abuse.

And we have no shortage of water benders with anger issues...

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

Earthbending is my favorite and it does get the shaft sometimes in the show in favor of Firebending and even Airbending.

Personally I think they just need to show it off to prove how awesome it can be. They've shown how awesome it can be in small doses like when Toph did Metalbending and rode a wave of earth in Season 2 but they need more.

Case and point, when Korra faced Tarrlok in his office he formed a wave of water in front of him and punched the water to form ice daggers that launched at Korra. We had never seen anything like that before and it was amazing and it changed how some people thought of Waterbenders.

We need that kind of moment for Earthbending because right now it seems that people think of Earthbenders as just Toph and Lin then....everyone else. Bolin doesn't need to be a master, he just needs that one epic moment.

 

[gohei_]

But... like Air, Earth is everywhere. It's the very ground you stand on. I duuno, it just seems fire get too much love in this franchise and Earth so little. You're right about Korra's temper matching a fire bender's but it's also resembles earth as well. It seems even more over used when she has a boyfriend who is also a fire bender.

The season is still young, so perhaps she'll show more variation in her offense as time passes.

Yep, I mean an earthbender could just literally create a vast hole underneath his/her opponents by removing the earth they stand on.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

I think what the show needs is another earth bending villain like Lao feng and the dai lee to show how balls to the walls powerful and dangerous an earth bender can be. Though it seems this show seems intent on using water benders as its villains, which I do like as it seems like a good thematic parallel to last airbender with the fire benders.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I get the sense that the average earth bender isn't really that powerful. Not like say, in the M. Night movie, where it takes six dancing to lift a rock, but Toph seems exceptionally powerful.

The reason Bolin hasn't done anything like that, may be simply because he can't.

 

[gohei_]

I wonder what it is that are restricting them? Can everyone reach the same potential if training hard enough?
Or do you need a high number of bendy-chlorians? (Yeah that's probably not a real word)

 

[Loki882]

Toph was clearly a prodigy. However, there is an entire police department that now knows Metalbending, something that was once thought to be impossible. Toph taught Aang and Lin how to use seismic sense, so clearly these skills can be learned with enough time and effort. Mako can lightning bend, which only Azula and Iroh had previously been able to do. Zuko and Ozai, immensely talented benders, couldn't lightning bend.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Not really sure, since it seems to be entirely random at times. Though bloodlines do seem to make some difference.

Like how all the Fire Nation royals were so powerful.

Training probably helps.

 

[Lord]

Toph lived earthbending, everytime she walked she was Basically training earthbend, so it's very normal for her to be so much better than everybody else.

 

[Loki882]

Toph lived earthbending, everytime she walked she was Basically training earthbend, so it's very normal for her to be so much better than everybody else.

And yet she was able to teach metalbending to an entire police force, plus her daughter, and seismic sense to her daughter and Aang. So clearly training has at least SOMETHING to do with it. Lightning bending was this epically awesome and rare technique in TLA. Now, a bunch of people can do it, and its used for factory work.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Well, I don't think the original show really gave us enough examples with temperament.

True the Fire Benders were a mostly an angry, imperialistic bunch, but if Iroh is any indication, that may just be a social trend. Arguably Zuko's (and Azula's, and perhaps even Ozai's) problems stem from child abuse.

And we have no shortage of water benders with anger issues...

Actually it has. They gave whole episodes on the temperment of each element.

Waterbenders are flexible, are too can be too relax and show off too much of the "Go the with the Flow attitude," which what happened when the Fire Nation kept slowly picking off the once strong Southern Water Tribe slowly, but surely. Instead of coming up with a plan, and help the Earth Kingdom win the war, they decided to let things play out it ended up with the Fire Nation constantly raiding their villages until there was little left by the begining of TLA.

Earth Benders are firm, but unchanging and absolute. This is evident is in not only the Dai Li and Long Feng, but also in Avatar Kyoshi who created the Dai Li, and unlike Aan and Roku, believed in absolutely justice, meaning she was not hesitant to kill.

Firebenders are energetic, passionate, and determined, but their willing to push their causes to the point of obsession. The whole royal family is an example of that. Zuko's chase for the Avatar, Azula wanting to prove her worth to her father, Ozai/Azulon/Sozin, especially Sozin, who's reason for starting the war is to expand and expose how advanced the Fire Nation was ahead of the other Nations later became a genocide and slaughtering of other nations.

Airbenders are free-spirited, but also emotionally detached. They're wise, and understanding of many things in the world, but their distance and detachment from the rest of the world (Aang mentioned how to you had to fly to get there) led to them getting wiped out easily by Fire Nation because of Sozin's comet. Even the previous Airbending Avatar before Aang mentioned that the Monks were too emotionally distant.

 

[sandwraith]

Regarding the issue of the Spirit attacks, we don't actually know if these were recent events, whether they were already an issue during the Equalist Revolution or going as far back as Korra's childhood. It could be a case of Tonraq asking the White Lotus to keep their child away from Spirits carrying a vendetta against Tonraq.

Because of how isolated Korra was from the rest of the world in her youth, this might have been an ongoing thing throughout her training but no one breathed a word about it to her for her own safety.

Unalaq actually shows surprise that Tenzin and Tonraq hadn't told her and they didn't seem to want to deny it.

Its likely. I mean the Earth King in ATLA didn't know that a 100 years of wars had been raging outside the walls of Ba Sing Se.

 

[Lord]

And yet she was able to teach metalbending to an entire police force, plus her daughter, and seismic sense to her daughter and Aang. So clearly training has at least SOMETHING to do with it. Lightning bending was this epically awesome and rare technique in TLA. Now, a bunch of people can do it, and its used for factory work.

Did i ever state training didn't have anything to do with it? I said the oposite, i said Toph had reached that potencial because she was constantly using earthbending, which can also be considered training in a way.

Anybody can learn metal bending because Toph discovered something nobody had before, and she sensed this due to her expertise with the element. She wasn't born with it, i never said that, she developed due to her having to constantly use earth bending.

Anything can be reached with training and Toph is this powerful because she was interested in learning and developing, and through her practice and knowledge of the element she Basically cracked a formula when she learned metal bending, a formula that can now be thaught to other earthbenders.

Edit: And Loki, this is must be around the 3rd time you disagree with me about something i didn't even say and state an opinion i share as if i was in oposition of that idea, it's getting a little annoying.

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

I think it just comes down to characters and how they are written that determines how good they are. Toph and Lin were meant to be boss so they were fantastic Earthbenders. Bolin was meant to be more of a clown and thus his Earthbending appears to be not up to par compared to them. I still think he's a good Earthbender and just needs that defining epic moment.

And by no means am I insulting the writers but it does come down to how they're shown that reflects their skills. In the fan-fic I write which features the Earthbending Avatar that comes after Korra I show first scene that he's a wizard in regards to Earthbending. I even have him use certain techniques as a staple of his style. He summons the earth around him to form fists to increase his punching power.

Do something like that for Bolin and he'll be seen the right way.

 

[DrCosmic]

Earthbending is pretty boss, it's just that it's not used often...

The sand trap ability really is a one-hit-kill for most enemies, I'm surprised it's not used more often, or maybe the fact that it could end a fight so easily is 'why' it's not used so often... The fact that sandbending could achieve many of the same basic techniques as water bending could make them extremely dangerous... I would love to see a waterbender and an earthbender get into a mudbending match!

The earth armor ability is awesome, Aang and Toph were good for that, it'd be nice to see that featured, especially if someone were to have a sort of earth 'mech' for lack of a better word similar to the Swampbenders' big creature....

Bridging from that, forming Earthen weapons on the fly would be kinda cool too, or take it up a notch, a blacksmith who forges the best weapons with the help of metalbending...

I think changing the battlefield in general would be cool too, to create structures for cover and then use those tactically, that could be awesome to see, and make for some really dynamic battles

Speaking of which, combining that with the sand-ground "teleport" type move could make an Earthbender incredibly potent.

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

See? That's exactly it. It is boss but they don't use it enough or it's too powerful to use often.

It just depends on how it's written. My guy Rey (the Avatar in my story) uses a bunch of Earthbending techniques like his Earth Fists and more to bend the enemy into submission.

In one instance he, along with some young Earthbenders, destroy a tank division bent on destroying a town by have them all summon massive earth glaives on both sides of the division so that they are guaranteed to penetrate the thick metal and thus finish them off. Another time he made a fissure in the ground and swallowed a tank up.

One time he was fighting an Earthbending general and he charged him straight up and the general summoned up pillars of earth, not to harm him, but to disrupt his flow and momentum which made him easier to hit.

Bending is only limited by imagination.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I think fire bending is by nature the deadliest. Even crappy fire bending can kill or critically injure someone with minimal effort

I'm guessing that's why in the movie they made fire benders require flame.

 

[sandwraith]

I think fire bending is by nature the deadliest. Even crappy fire bending can kill or critically injure someone with minimal effort

I'm guessing that's why in the movie they made fire benders require flame.

As they say, Fire make a god servant but a terrible master. But Water isn't exactly harmless either. In the old times the original WMDs were Fire and Water. Water was used to flood entire lowland areas or drown cornered armies. If you believe in Biblical sources, the world was once drowned in a great flood.

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

every element is deadly if used correctly. I have an airbender kill someone by using the air as a sword and stabbing her opponent in the chest.

Again, imagination.

 

[Loki882]

We do have Lin, and she's a badass Earthbender. BTW, I still want to know who her dad is, Sokka perhaps?

 

[sandwraith]

every element is deadly if used correctly. I have an airbender kill someone by using the air as a sword and stabbing her opponent in the chest.

Again, imagination.

Having Yangchen/Jinora murder rampage daydreams I see.t:

 

[sandwraith]

Am I the only one who finds the logistics of a North Pole-South Pole war amusing?

Not really. In the Napoleonic Wars era, English and French Ships were literally everywhere, from the Carribean to the Newfoundlands (i.e. North America). The Avatar world is significantly smaller than ours and being the Water Tribe, I think sea transport wouldn't be much of problem.

 

[TheLastBlade]

Ugh..... Really disliked the first episode of Season 2. Only reason why I don't hate it is because it has some elements that makes me want to at least try to watch it. But overall, part 1 gets a D part 2 gets a C- and together brings a D+.

I'm not much of a fan of season 1, because it had rushed plots, forgotten sub plots, love square, characters doing a 180, and writing off some of the lore that was established in the first series, but this episode was pretty lame.

Part 1:
-It's been 6 months, which is fine, but Korra treats it like it's been years and she "mastered" airbending by air punching trees and bushes. I like how she seems to have a problem with mastering airbending, while Water, Earth, and Fire took the majority of her childhood, and she didn't seem to complain about that.
-Hints at how Korra is abusing her powers.
-Tenzins brother retired for whatever reason, after JUST appearing in the last episode of season 1.
-Mako becomes a policeman in 6 months, for whatever reason.... Doesn't really explain how.
-Korra is being a really huge jerk to Tenzin, showing her arrogance of being an Avatar.
-Korra thinks she's awesome and all that, but she forgot that she only won by luck in the last episode.
-Mako explains that tenzin wants whats best for her, but Korra scolds him and says, "Whose side are you on?" ..... What? Not only does this show Korra PMSing, but it also shows that the scriptwriter is terrible.
-Bolin, Asami, and Mako are just there, but that's probably for the best as it's already bad as it is.
*Not-so-obvious-badguy-in-first-part appears with his son and daughter..... Meh.
-Korra is mad at her dad for keeping her secluded... Fine, but didn't went out of her way to get taught airbending and NOW she's mad? She doesn't seem to mind in the first season.
-That's another thing, only now does it introduce the idea of Korra being secluded from the outside world... If you can call it that.
-Not-so-obvious-badguy does a crappy philosophical speech on how greedy humans abuse the spiritual heritage.
-Mako tries to be supportive, which is a good thing, but Korra is PMSing again.
-After the spirit kicks everyone's ass, NSOB saves the day and Korra fires Tenzin...... WHAT? WHAT?! Not even her avatar state can beat them and she fires Tenzin because she believes that NSOB can do a better job. Spoilers: She learns nothing!
-Korra questions if she made the right decision..... The audience probably knows the real answer to this.

Part 2:

-Korra is PMSing again.
-We get to learn more about her dad and find out the he was banished, but at every moment, it's an obvious plot device to make him look like the bad guy and making not so obvious bad guy, Obvious bad guy.
-Korra attempts to do what Obvious bad guy did, and acts surprised that it doesn't work. What? Does she think that just because she's the avatar, this means that by looking at something, she learns it automatically?
*Mako is just there..... Quite the improvement.
-Apparently, the people in the air temples had no idea that Aang had other children.... Apparently, the Avatar having other children didn't sink in.
-Moment were obvious badguy is obvious
-Apparently, there's this portal business now.
-Korra says something about being stressed on being the avatar..... As if there was anything she had to learn about IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!
-Now there's fleets of ships that TOTALLY doesn't foreshadow anything.

Hopefully, the other episodes are better.