Avatar: The Legend Of Korra - Part 5

[TheCardPlayer]

Exactly. Also, this is a very touching story by a mother of 3 boys who watches Avatar. A must read, really.

http://avatar-mom.tumblr.com/post/105659602917/i-have-cried-about-so-many-things-in-the-last-day

Micheal DiMartino reblogged it. I think it's fair to say that whoever say it's platonical is living in denial.

 

[Loki882]

Given what the creators think about romance in general, and their past track record (the LAST SHOT of ATLA was literally the main ship being 100% confirmed, the last shot of the entire show). So the argument that the Korra/Asami, which wasn't just the last scene of this show, but possibly of this franchise on TV period, was meant to be "they're just friends" strikes me as highly unlikely. They could have used several other characters besides Asami if that was their intention.

 

[TheLastBlade]

It think the #1 problem with the entire series is the romance. 4 seasons and they still are terrible at it.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

The two love interest of the male character end up closer after the romance doesn't work out and go on vacation together are just BFFs? She apologizes for leaving her so abruptly? The only person besides her father who she sent a correspondence to while she ran off?

That's being obtuse to confirm the relationship or deny them as just friends.

 

[Loki882]

-It's an almost shot for shot parallel to the Aang/Katara kiss scene from Sozin's Comet.
-The showrunners have retweeted several articles praising the show for ending on a LGBT relationship.
-The hints have been there all season.
-They even reused parts of "The Avatar's Love" theme from aforementioned Aang/Katara scene.
-There's been pretty much zero evidence that either of them are still hung up on Mako this season. They both seem to be over it.

If it looks like a duck, acts like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it's probably a duck.

 

[Nick]

The sound of Asami's heels is possibly the best sound I've heard in this show so far. I was afraid they were going to end it with the shot of Tenzin and Korra. I'm so glad they didn't. An incredible finale, filled with tight action, great story and an even better romance. They couldn't have ended on a better note.

 

[Primal Slayer]

I would've been fine if they ended it with that shot of Tenzin/Korra, they started the show together, fitting that they end it together.

 

[Young Superman]

I'm gonna miss this show.

 

[Mikelus]

Didn't go beyond vague innuendo. Except in the minds of shippers who were making their porn on Tumblr for years. They just threw in the ultimate pandering (that's what these writers do best if they do anything) right at the very end.

These writers like you said, have done many good things with this series, I don't think is a coincidence it has great reviews and most people love it: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1695360/

Are there flaws? Of course, like all great movies and series have, nothing is perfect.

Great ending to one of the best animated series, I will miss it. On the whole Korra and Asami issue, if they're more than friends, bisexuals, lesbians or just confused (LOL), I'm fine with it, they deserve to be happy. t:

 

[TheLastBlade]

Especially when Mako sucks :P

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

I would've been fine if they ended it with that shot of Tenzin/Korra, they started the show together, fitting that they end it together.

That's what bugs me about that ending, is that it wasn't necessary per se. It would've been very symbolic if it ended with Tenzin and Korra, or to twist the ending a little, have Tenzin mention that Korra should relax and take time off, and offhandedly mention the Spirit World. The final shot would be Korra walking into the portal, turning to see Republic City one more time, and as she looks she sees Mako, Asami, Bolin and Tenzin waving at her and saying goodbye.

That would've been beautiful, touching, poetic, and definitive.

I've already made my comments on this issue, and I'm going to be doing a podcast for the website I work for so I hope to make more sense there (sorry for my monologues). But to wrap up my feelings, it boils down to this.

The last two episodes were great. Truly some of the best of the season. But if this thread has proved anything, the last two minutes have negated pretty much all of it. And that is what saddens me. Cause the fanbase is split (that includes this thread). There are those who say they are, and those who say they aren't, and instead of fully dissecting the finale (yes, I know some of us have, but let's be fair, it's mostly been chatter about this) and determining the true Legend of Korra...we're talking about Korrasami.

Further proof, my tag team partner for my Korra podcasts, we hadn't chatted in a while, and I said in a text chat, "have you seen Korra?" And his reply was...

"I did! #KORRASAMI!"

That what makes me sad. Not mad, not furious, not hating the final episodes or how it ended. It just makes me sad. Cause instead of being appreciative of the finale as a while, many of us will focus on those last two minutes for a long time.

 

[Sithborg]

The ending is no more ruined than it was in Avatar. I get the impression that there was a substantially sized group of fans that wanted Katara to end up with Zuko. There is a very good reason why there was that "Kataang wins" pop up from the creators. Sadly, the ending was always going to be talked about. Agree or not whether or not it should've happened, it is a rather big thing to have Korra and Asami together.

And it doesn't take from the finale. Yes, we are talking about the big thing there at the end. Personally, I felt this was a far stronger finale than Avatar's.

 

[OsGom]

Great season and great finish. Nearly every character finished with a strong story and the writers were still able to insert a lot of humor. Milosh with his face pressed against the window killed me. My only issue is Kovira finding and using the gun. That part was kinda dumb.

As far as the "romance" with Korra and Asami, I thought it was subtle and exceptionally well done. Why it bothers anyone is beyond me, it seems like the writers have been building this for a while. Kudos!

Now I understand why Nik moved it to the web. Pretty weak on their part but I guess I should be happy they allowed it at all.

This by far was my favorite season in every aspect. Art, action, humor and story were all exceptional and well planned. Season 2 is just a bad memory.

 

[Lencho01]

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

The ending is no more ruined than it was in Avatar. I get the impression that there was a substantially sized group of fans that wanted Katara to end up with Zuko. There is a very good reason why there was that "Kataang wins" pop up from the creators. Sadly, the ending was always going to be talked about. Agree or not whether or not it should've happened, it is a rather big thing to have Korra and Asami together.

And it doesn't take from the finale. Yes, we are talking about the big thing there at the end. Personally, I felt this was a far stronger finale than Avatar's.

I do recall some people wanting Katara and Zuko to be together, mainly because of their interaction at the end of Book Two, but it they did get together, it would've been kind of weird based on everything that happened with Aang and Katara. It least for me.

Still don't think Korra and Asami are a couple, unless you mean a couple of great friends...but I don't think you do.

To your last point. I honestly think that TLA had much more of a payoff than LOK. Allow me to explain.

The villains were better, as we got to see both Ozai and Azula get justice served to them.

The fights were more epic (to a degree) and personal. Azula vs. Zuko (with help from Katara) was easily one of the most personal fights in series history, that includes LOK. Ozai vs. Aang was both epic and poetic as Aang risked everything to take away Ozai's bending rather than kill him.

You truly felt there was significant change happening. Yes, in LOK there is a new portal for the spirits. But they already had two as many pointed out. And yes, the Earth Kingdom (at least they hinted) is most likely no more. But with TLA, you truly felt that the world was back in balance, and that there was a chance for hope to spring up again. There really wasn't that in LOK outside of the people of Republic City.

And of course the shot of everyone relaxing together and having fun before cutting to Aang and Katara showcasing (definitively) their love for each other was a beautiful way to end it.

Again, just an opinion. One that I'll happily chat about with any who agree or disagree.

 

[TheLastBlade]

I don't remember Zuko and Katara having those kinds of moments.... For one thing, between book 2 and 3, Zuko betrayed Katara's trust and had hints of a AangxKatara. The fact that Zuko and Katara reconciled and became close friends is a lot more clear than what happened with Korra. ZukoxKatara is an example of the fandom shipping things; remember, fans of Nickelodeon has this strange habit of shipping everyone in each show Nick makes.

 

[kickass]

I'll say it again; Books 3 and 4 were being made together at the same time. That's why Kuvira had very little parts in Book 3 because she was always going to be a major player in Book 4. With that said, this "pandering to the fans" is nonsense. The fans who shipped Korrasami got what they wanted, but not because Bryan and Mike listened to them. The relationship between Korra and Asami began to flourish since the very first episode of Book 3 when Asami was teaching Korra how to drive. The creators were building both characters up because they had always planned to use them for the very end of the series.

I hear countless times that the relationship between Korra and Mako was badly handled or forced. I never thought that because, in reality, these characters were just teenagers and neither one of them were good at expressing their love for each other. The were young and messing up. Kinda like *gasp!* real life!

But back to Korrasami, every seed had been planted from the beginning of Book 3 and onwards. And that last scene between the two of them is the flower blossoming. They're not getting married. It's not like the battle ended and then we cut to Korra and Asami getting married instead of Verrick and Zhu Li. THAT would have been completely left field and made no sense. Instead, we are shown 2 characters whose relationship has been growing over the course of 2 seasons and that is ANYTHING but rushed or forced. It's the complete opposite. It's....natural.

 

[DA_Champion]

Kuvira may have destroyed a whole city, but at least at the end she said she was sorry.

 

[TheLastBlade]

@kickass

I like how people keep forgetting why others hated KorraxMako in the first place.

 

[Red Mask]

It was a strong ending. But I saw nothing conclusive about the state of Korra and Asami's relationship. So as far as I know Sailor Moon is still the only animated show with an openly gay couple of heroines. Arrow may have made Sarah Lance bisexual but she's gone now and that's a live action tv show. If Korra and Asami are together now they narrowly dodged the bullet that's killed off many gay characters.

 

[GamerSlyRatchet]

Kuvira may have destroyed a whole city, but at least at the end she said she was sorry.

Don't forget Su condemning her supposed adopted daughter while babying Bataar Jr.

 

[Maximus One]

Lmao oh wow, I can't even touch half the stuff in this thread. Wow. Fan boys really will do anything to rationalize stuff and analyze it to fit their own means. And, that's my cue to give up as this place is concerned. You guys have fun being so miserable at what was a great ending to a great series and feeling like you've been betrayed. There's tons of fans who aren't Korrasami shippers that loved the ending and also, just for the record, there were TONS of fans that hated Aang and Katara ending up together as it went against Aang's air nomad ways and the ways of the Avatar. There are tons of Zutara shippers and tons of Tokka shippers as well. The Avatar fandom really is quite an amusing fandom. I will say that much.

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

Don't forget Su condemning her supposed adopted daughter while babying Bataar Jr.

Yeah that was weird. Along with Champion's comment about Kuvira saying she was sorry. I liked that she regretted "killing" Bataar Jr., and how he finally saw the light, but the ending with Kuvira was just...odd, in my opinion.

Red Mask: It's ironic, I actually used Sara Lance as an example of why I don't think Korra and Asami are a couple when talking with someone else. At least with Sara there was a believability and a definitiveness that she was bi and Nyssa was a lesbian. The only thing I hated was that after Sara "broke up" with Nyssa, she was in Ollie's arms within ten minutes! Really? I hated that she did that to Nyssa. But that was an example of an out of nowhere love that was believable, whereas Korra/Asami honestly isn't in my opinion.

Maximus: It's just like I said before the finale aired, we all love Korra in one way or another. There are things we love, things we hate, things we wish were better. Thinking those thoughts shows that Korra has had a great impact on our lives. I know it has for mine. And when we do things like this, it honestly shows that we care about the series. I definitely don't feel betrayed by the finale, because it was great. I'm just...sad about what happened because of the final two minutes. By that I mean the splitting of the fanbase.

 

[haephestus]

I will really miss the Avatar universe in animated form.

I enjoyed the two-part finale. I still find it interesting that water bending seems to be Korra's last choice, even though she's from a water bender tribe. But, it was great to finally see her break out the water bending to freeze Kuvira's mecha giant.

As for the "controversy", it's all a little odd to me. I think the ending is ambigious enough for people to read whatever they want to from it. If you're a fan of Korra and Asami as a romantic couple, then you can read that into the ending. If you're a fan of Korra and Asami as butt-kicking BFFs, then you can also read that into the ending. Maybe it's just because I've seen all this before with the finale of Xena: Warrior Princess.

Some fans wanted an entirely conclusive "they're in a romantic and physical relationship" statement while others wanted a conclusive "they're best buddies fighting for the greater good" statement. TPTB tried to please both sides with a "kiss" that was analysed frame by frame to discern the true meaning.

 

[Mad Ones]

They said Kuvira will be held accountable for everything she's done. We don't need to see them punish her to get the idea. Korra getting someone like Kuvira to apologize like that shows how far her character has developed.

I wish people wouldn't undermine the significance of ending by saying it was written to appease Tumblr. Korra and Asami weren't exactly subtle, and their relationship has been leading to something romantic for at least two seasons.

Korra is a queer nonwhite heroine and star of her own action show. This is absolutely huge and amazing, but unfortunately some people always resist.

As for the finale as a whole: perfect.