Infinity War Avengers: Infinity War SPOILER User Review Thread - Part 2

[Spider-Fan]

That's an interesting theory, I hadn't thought about that. I could see something like this happening. I wonder if they this would bring back Gamora as well.

This is also another good question. It's possible.

I guess it depends on if that rule applies to after the stone was taking from its sanctuary or if that was just the test to get it from that place.

That becomes the million dollar question: is the sacrifice required to get it just from where it was located, or to use it/possess it? If everyone using it needs to do the sacrifice, then I see Tony being forced to sacrifice Cap. I wouldn't see Cap being willing to MAKE that type of sacrifice, but I could easily see him willing to BE the sacrifice.

 

[Flemm]

Gamora being brought back feels unlikely to me. For the theme of sacrifice to really have weight, then I think a central moment like that has to feel irreversible.

However, the idea that the heroes will end up making a similar sacrifice, but a more selfless one, in the next film, that we have been discussing... that feels like a strong possibility.

That one would also have to feel final and irreversible, I think, for it to work.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Did Saldana say she was in GOTG3 already though?

Granted... I think that will be the last Guardians film.

I kinda think they will go Warlock And The Infinity Watch after and move Drax and Gatorade over there.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Did Saldana say she was in GOTG3 already though?

Granted... I think that will be the last Guardians film.

I kinda think they will go Warlock And The Infinity Watch after and move Drax and Gatorade over there.

Agreed. I think they are the future of MCU Cosmic, as well.

 

[WitcherGeralt]

That would fit the general idea through out A3 "We don't trade lives" .
Because Loki wouldn't sacrifice Thor, Thanos got the Space Stone (although he could've got it eventually but whatever)
Because the Avengers refused to sacrifice Vision (sooner), Thanos got the Mind Stone.
Because Strange refused to sacrifice Tony's life, Thanos got the Time Stone (although that will contribute to the final victory but whatever)
Thanos was willing to sacrifice Gamora, so he got the Soul Stone.

 

[InCali]

Gamora being brought back feels unlikely to me. For the theme of sacrifice to really have weight, then I think a central moment like that has to feel irreversible.

However, the idea that the heroes will end up making a similar sacrifice, but a more selfless one, in the next film, that we have been discussing... that feels like a strong possibility.

That one would also have to feel final and irreversible, I think, for it to work.

I think they bring her back (and Loki and Heimdall) and maybe even QS. Even if they don't, I think they leave themselves room to do so at their convenience.

This is something I've never understood. Weight......

If Gamora is brought back, how does it negatively affect this movie? Right now, the death "feels" like it has weight. So does Spidey's for that matter.

To me, it's about what the movie conveys when you are watching it.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Krypton is right, Thanos tells the Black Order to meet him on Titan after they retrieve the stones on Earth. Thor puts together that Thanos is going to Knowhere on his own as the reality stone is there, and the soul stone's location isn't common knowledge.

Ah right don't remember it playing out that way but if you both think it I must be in the wrong.

Apologies @ Krypton

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Agreed. I think they are the future of MCU Cosmic, as well.

My thing is f they give us Adam and the Watch after GOTG3 I don't want Gun handling that.

Again, if that is even what they are doing. Adam was part of GOTG in the comics and they did introduce him in a way in vol..2

 

[SomeOldGuy]

This is something I've never understood. Weight......

I used to have the same argument back in my RPG days. Funny how it was always a DM arguing that the game couldn’t have any weight unless they could permanently kill your character, never the player...

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Ah right don't remember it playing out that way but if you both think it I must be in the wrong.

Apologies @ Krypton

No problemo.

And you aren't wrong that Thor doesn't necessarily end up gathering the heroes and Tony in particular. As I stated [BLACKOUT]given the BTS pics of an older looking Tony in A4 he may not get back to Earth for a while. I could see him elect to stay out in space to gather as much intel he could on the stones. [/BLACKOUT]

 

[InCali]

I used to have the same argument back in my RPG days. Funny how it was always a DM arguing that the game couldn’t have any weight unless they could permanently kill your character, never the player...

I'm an IT person so I'm used to acronyms.....what's a DM and a Rocket Propelled Grenade? t:

 

[DyeLorean]

Had my second viewing last night with my dad (he loved it).
It was a standard 2D with 7.1 sound. Gotta say, it was a lot better than IMAX 3D. Colors, brightness, everything was shining, the CGI looked a lot better too. Shame we don't have 2D showings in my IMAX. That would be the ultimate experience.

 

[Flemm]

This is something I've never understood. Weight......

Well, it's just a way of talking about the emotional impact and significance.

If the theme of the story is sacrifice, and nothing is being sacrificed, or only temporarily, then how powerful or convincing is that going to end up being?

If it's just: "I will trade my life for the lives of millions, please make sure that you reset the universe properly, and bring me back." Then the impact is different.

On some level, that's because life doesn't work like that. People do make sacrifices, and they don't come back.

So if the story is trying to evoke that, or depict that type of sacrifice, then having some sort of full reset seems unlikely to me.

 

[RoastBeast]

As a general comment on film, some of us have a lot of loss and sacrifice in real life and go to the movies for something that's not that. I do resent the comments from the writers that imply they think they need to give us life lessons of some sort. Entertain me, you're not my therapist, thanks anyway.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

I'm an IT person so I'm used to acronyms.....what's a DM and a Rocket Propelled Grenade? t:

A very dangerous combination! t:

 

[RoastBeast]

^rofl!

 

[PacificBoy]

Well, it's just a way of talking about the emotional impact and significance.

If the theme of the story is sacrifice, and nothing is being sacrificed, or only temporarily, then how powerful or convincing is that going to end up being?

If it's just: "I will trade my life for the lives of millions, please make sure that you reset the universe properly, and bring me back." Then the impact is different.

On some level, that's because life doesn't work like that. People do make sacrifices, and they don't come back.

So if the story is trying to evoke that, or depict that type of sacrifice, then having some sort of full reset seems unlikely to me.

The 'little weight' criticism is a combination of the longstanding gripe of the MCU's dearth of character deaths, the publicised nature of upcoming sequels (notably HC2 and GotG3), and how AIW was sold as a grand finale of sorts. I think there's legitimacy to it and A4 would go a long way in addressing -- or magnifying -- this criticism.

 

[Web-Head]

Not multiverse per se but time travel.

Time travel is fine but different versions of the characters? No thanks

 

[Spider-Fan]

On the subject of announcing films too early, they have to film and have release dates for them. They can't just announce them 1 month or 2 before they release, LOL!

 

[PacificBoy]

On the subject of announcing films too early, they have to film and have release dates for them. They can't just announce them 1 month or 2 before they release, LOL!

That's right. It's just the nature of the beast that is the MCU.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Time travel is fine but different versions of the characters? No thanks

Well then, again, it's good that alternate dimension versions is not at all what's been hinted at.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

As a general comment on film, some of us have a lot of loss and sacrifice in real life and go to the movies for something that's not that. I do resent the comments from the writers that imply they think they need to give us life lessons of some sort. Entertain me, you're not my therapist, thanks anyway.

Next time, read a full synopsis of the movie (especially the ending) before wasting your money. Simple.

 

[Web-Head]

On the subject of announcing films too early, they have to film and have release dates for them. They can't just announce them 1 month or 2 before they release, LOL!

Yep. Things will leak out before that too.

I still think the three 2020 films will be Guardians 3, Black Widow and Strange 2.

Guardians 3 is all but confirmed by Gunn and they're obviously meeting with directors about Widow and four years after the first Doctor Strange movie is just about right

 

[Flemm]

As a general comment on film, some of us have a lot of loss and sacrifice in real life and go to the movies for something that's not that. I do resent the comments from the writers that imply they think they need to give us life lessons of some sort. Entertain me, you're not my therapist, thanks anyway.

Well, artists and entertainers can make all types of choices.

One can be to focus on something that is purely escapist, or fun. That's more than fine, I enjoy that stuff.

But I can enjoy other things, too.

Utimately, of course, each individual decides if they are interested in a particular thing.

 

[Web-Head]

Well then, again, it's good that alternate dimension versions is not at all what's been hinted at.

It's not. I'm just saying some have speculated that could be the case, albeit unlikely