Infinity War Avengers: Infinity War SPOILER User Review Thread - Part 2

[P Supreme]

He used it already when cutting into the ship. It was established in prior films that he can only use it once.

in which movie ? I don't recall that

 

[Silvermoon]

in which movie ? I don't recall that

it was Iron Man 2 at the end of the movie when he uses it and Rhodey asks why he didn't lead with that. Tony's response then is that it was a one-off/one-time feature However, just because it was a one-off with THAT suit (the Mk VI), does not necessarily mean it remained a one-off feature in subsequent models

 

[JtheDreamer]

Movie wise I was also wondering how would anyone know how to use the gauntlet. Like how did Thanos know how to use the stones as he did? His battle with Strange made him seem like he had already mastered the use of the stones the way he was attacking and counter-attacking.

Better example, how did Thanos know that he could turn back time to get to Vision? How did he even know how to do that with the time stone?

Do you think the stones make the wearer/user self informed?

Even if in A4 if someone else is to wield the gauntlet... how would they know what to do to get the stones to work to do what they needed it to do?


These are the things that keep me up at night! LOL

The standard response to questions like yours has been that they weren't vital to the story so they were omitted.

I find that perspective somewhat lazy.

 

[squeekness]

it was Iron Man 2 at the end of the movie when he uses it and Rhodey asks why he didn't lead with that. Tony's response then is that it was a one-off/one-time feature However, just because it was a one-off with THAT suit (the Mk VI), does not necessarily mean it remained a one-off feature in subsequent models

In fact, one might think that since it had been so wildly successful in that moment, that Tony would not only make it standard to all future suits, but also find a way to make it repeatable.

 

[honestbharani]

This. 100% agree that Thanos did massive amounts of research before starting his quest. This would also explain how he knew who Stark was. Surly, the mad titan behind the Chitari invasion of NYC, knows who was responsible for their demise.

I liked the explanation that it was Odin's death and the destruction of Asgard that tips off Thanos to start the quest in earnest this time. You would think if Hela was still around and the Tesseract was in Asgard, Thanos would have had no chance in hell of getting it. Kinda funny viewing it in that way and thinking of the villains who might have been able to help stop Thanos. Like Ego, for one.

 

[JtheDreamer]

I liked the explanation that it was Odin's death and the destruction of Asgard that tips off Thanos to start the quest in earnest this time. You would think if Hela was still around and the Tesseract was in Asgard, Thanos would have had no chance in hell of getting it. Kinda funny viewing it in that way and thinking of the villains who might have been able to help stop Thanos. Like Ego, for one.

That's not an explanation - that's just fan fiction.

 

[honestbharani]

Well, I thought I heard it from John Campea and he said something about how the Russos explained it. Never followed it to source though, so not sure if it is canon or not but it does make the most sense.

 

[javonstokess]

The standard response to questions like yours has been that they weren't vital to the story so they were omitted.

I find that perspective somewhat lazy.

How is that lazy? The info has been laid out throughout 10 years of movies.

Thanos already had the mind stone in his possession prior to Avengers 1, so he clearly knows alot about Infinity stones and their abilities.

He had Ronan looking for it so he has knowledge of their existence.

As stated previously, there's enough knowledge about the Time Stone to be documented in a book, so you can infer that other texts possibly exist about the other 5 stones throughout the universe.

Thanos is clearly intelligent AND strong enough to hold one in his hand without exploding like everyone else.

In IW movie, the Dwarf says he created the gauntlet to harness (control) the power of the stones.

Just because they don't show his entire process of learning and practicing doesn't mean that the info wasn't provided to us.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Again I say if Doctor Strange can learn to use the Time Stone from a book, then Thanos could easily have learned what they could do from research. Further, I have absolutely no doubts that he knows way more about how the stones work and their abilities than anyone except maybe Celestials...and that he has researched this extensively so he could know his plan was even possible.

 

[MrWayne]

Again I say if Doctor Strange can learn to use the Time Stone from a book, then Thanos could easily have learned what they could do from research. Further, I have absolutely no doubts that he knows way more about how the stones work and their abilities than anyone except maybe Celestials...and that he has researched this extensively so he could know his plan was even possible.

I’m picturing Thanos on that planet we last see him on just practicing and trying out all sorts of powers and tricks the stones can do.

This also makes me think…. The gauntlet Thanos wore was molded to fit the size of his fists. Do we think that if someone else uses the gauntlet they will make a new one to fit the wearer??

Can anyone tell me how that works in the comics? I’ve seen other people wearing the gauntlet. Is it a one size fits all kinda thing? LOL

 

[javonstokess]

I’m picturing Thanos on that planet we last see him on just practicing and trying out all sorts of powers and tricks the stones can do.

This also makes me think…. The gauntlet Thanos wore was molded to fit the size of his fists. Do we think that if someone else uses the gauntlet they will make a new one to fit the wearer??

Can anyone tell me how that works in the comics? I’ve seen other people wearing the gauntlet. Is it a one size fits all kinda thing? LOL

In the comics the stones are WAY more powerful and the tends to automatically...fit to whoever the wielder is at that time.

 

[JtheDreamer]

How is that lazy? The info has been laid out throughout 10 years of movies.

Thanos already had the mind stone in his possession prior to Avengers 1, so he clearly knows alot about Infinity stones and their abilities.

He had Ronan looking for it so he has knowledge of their existence.

As stated previously, there's enough knowledge about the Time Stone to be documented in a book, so you can infer that other texts possibly exist about the other 5 stones throughout the universe.

Thanos is clearly intelligent AND strong enough to hold one in his hand without exploding like everyone else.

In IW movie, the Dwarf says he created the gauntlet to harness (control) the power of the stones.

Just because they don't show his entire process of learning and practicing doesn't mean that the info wasn't provided to us.

Holding an Infinity Stone and wielding it's abilities are two separate things.

Nowhere in the movie does it explain how Thanos comes to know of the latter - whether other books exist or not. It's just another element that is left out because of the size/scope of the film. It forces you to accept "oh he must already know somehow."

For other movies that kind of thing would get taken to task, but this one gets a pass because of the size/scope that forced omissions of many details that may have more effectively fleshed it out.

 

[honestbharani]

Holding an Infinity Stone and wielding it's abilities are two separate things.

Nowhere in the movie does it explain how Thanos comes to know of the latter - whether other books exist or not. It's just another element that is left out because of the size/scope of the film. It forces you to accept "oh he must already know somehow."

For other movies that kind of thing would get taken to task, but this one gets a pass because of the size/scope that forced omissions of many details that may have more effectively fleshed it out.

So how do you think Ronan knew how to use the Power stone in GotG? Or Red Skull in CA:TFA? The MCU has always set up that anyone who goes after the stones usually have got enough knowledge on its abilities and how to use them. I really cannot see how anyone can call it lazy writing when it has been established this way from the very first movie in which we see an Infinity stone.

 

[JtheDreamer]

So how do you think Ronan knew how to use the Power stone in GotG? Or Red Skull in CA:TFA? The MCU has always set up that anyone who goes after the stones usually have got enough knowledge on its abilities and how to use them. I really cannot see how anyone can call it lazy writing when it has been established this way from the very first movie in which we see an Infinity stone.

First off - Red Skull harnessed the cube's energy with the assistance of the mad scientist Zola, who clearly studied it in a lab. He never physically was able to control it himself.

Other characters like Ronan (who I liked) and Malekith just randomly absorbed Infinity Stones and the writers played loosely with it. I always have to remember these are comic book movies, but it's the little details for me that turn decent fun into a great film.

 

[WitcherGeralt]

First off - Red Skull harnessed the cube's energy with the assistance of the mad scientist Zola, who clearly studied it in a lab. He never physically was able to control it himself.

Other characters like Ronan (who I liked) and Malekith just randomly absorbed Infinity Stones and the writers played loosely with it. I always have to remember these are comic book movies, but it's the little details for me that turn decent fun into a great film.

Man it's just your opinion man. I, and certainly most of us sane people don't need a 2 and a half hour movie about an alien like Thanos learning how to use the goddamn alien stones. This isn't just nit picking, this is about finding some stupid reason to hate the movie.

 

[RoastBeast]

Man it's just your opinion man. I, and certainly most of us sane people don't need a 2 and a half hour movie about an alien like Thanos learning how to use the goddamn alien stones. This isn't just nit picking, this is about finding some stupid reason to hate the movie.

Or its not nit-picking, it's just one of the myriad events that make no sense and is therefore part of why some of us just don't think IW is the bees knees.

 

[WitcherGeralt]

Or its not nit-picking, it's just one of the myriad events that make no sense and is therefore part of why some of us just don't think IW is the bees knees.

If there's a reason IW is bad, this is not one of them.

 

[RoastBeast]

How Thanos knows how to use them might well be really, really important, if anybody else is going to try to use them, so its not really the same as the BO's carpooling strategy.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Once again, Thanos was seeking these for YEARS. Do you know how much research you can do in YEARS, especially if you only really have 1 goal? Doctor Strange learned tricks after reading a book for 2 minutes with the time stone, you guys really find it hard to believe that Thanos, who was on a quest for these since Gamora was a child at the very least, would not have done research into how they work or how others have used them?

I really don't see how this is hard to grasp/imagine.

 

[Iceman]

Once again, Thanos was seeking these for YEARS. Do you know how much research you can do in YEARS, especially if you only really have 1 goal? Doctor Strange learned tricks after reading a book for 2 minutes with the time stone, you guys really find it hard to believe that Thanos, who was on a quest for these since Gamora was a child at the very least, would not have done research into how they work or how others have used them?

I really don't see how this is hard to grasp/imagine.

I'm not really getting these particular issues. From the age of 16 here you can start specialising in a subject and have a phd in it by your mid twenties. Is it hard to believe the Titan trying to conquer and save the galaxy might be a little more diligent before he risks everything?

 

[Spider-Fan]

I'm not really getting these particular issues. From the age of 16 here you can start specialising in a subject and have a phd in it by your mid twenties. Is it hard to believe the Titan trying to conquer and save the galaxy might be a little more diligent before he risks everything?

Agreed. Also per The Avengers, the Other to Loki said Thanos was "He who put the Scepter in your hand. Who gave you ancient knowledge and new purpose..." Thanos gave Loki the Scepter and likely taught him a few tricks with it (enough for his mind control thing). It just boggles me to doubt that he just did his homework and knew what they could do.

 

[Jake_Snake]

Once again, Thanos was seeking these for YEARS. Do you know how much research you can do in YEARS, especially if you only really have 1 goal? Doctor Strange learned tricks after reading a book for 2 minutes with the time stone, you guys really find it hard to believe that Thanos, who was on a quest for these since Gamora was a child at the very least, would not have done research into how they work or how others haveThan used them?

I really don't see how this is hard to grasp/imagine.

This

 

[ctsketch]

Holding an Infinity Stone and wielding it's abilities are two separate things.

Nowhere in the movie does it explain how Thanos comes to know of the latter - whether other books exist or not. It's just another element that is left out because of the size/scope of the film. It forces you to accept "oh he must already know somehow."

For other movies that kind of thing would get taken to task, but this one gets a pass because of the size/scope that forced omissions of many details that may have more effectively fleshed it out.

Its not something I found myself wondering during the movie nor did it break my suspension of belief, therefore it was unimportant for the movie viewing experience

 

[Filmfan93]

I really hope the Blu-Ray editions, covers, features and possible release date are revealed soon.

Perhaps maybe when the film hits $2 billion?

 

[RoastBeast]

Fine... they are the iNfinity Stones (tm) and their use is totally intuitive. I guess I just like more story and detail in movies and like to talk about said details.