Infinity War Avengers: Infinity War SPOILER User Review Thread - Part 2

[Flemm]

It’s the infinity gauntlet after all.

I'm guessing that they have decided not to use the device of the gauntlet fixing everything.

That does happen in the comics, but they seem to be going in another direction.

One interesting detail, to my mind, is the final shot of Thanos, contemplating his journey in a remote location, a humble dwelling, etc. I will have to compare and confirm, but my reaction was to see that as a pretty clear adaptation of, or reference to, the end of Gauntlet in the comics.

But, in the comic, Thanos has already lost by that time. He has given up the gauntlet, and the damage has been undone. Or at least that is my recollection. So this is like the whole story, but with a victorious Thanos.

 

[javonstokess]

I'm guessing that they have decided not to use the device of the gauntlet fixing everything.

That does happen in the comics, but they seem to be going in another direction.

To be fair, Thanos does WAY more damage with the gauntlet in the comics than movie.

I mean, he, inadvertently, sinks California and dislodges the Earth from it's rotation.

 

[Flint Marko]

So apparently Ruffalo spoiled the ending for the movie all the way back in July.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-...poiler-ending-thanos-marvel-mcu-a8332051.html

Apparently he says “half of everybody dies” but it’s hard to hear. He’s lucky he didn’t speak clearer

 

[Spider-Fan]

This is why they don't trust him with things, LOL!!!! But I do remember this interview. I thought he was right even then and that it wasn't Cheadle and Ruffallo doing a bit, LOL! I remember many thinking that was staged.

 

[Flemm]

To be fair, Thanos does WAY more damage with the gauntlet in the comics than movie.

I mean, he, inadvertently, sinks California and dislodges the Earth from it's rotation.

Yeah, that's true. They tightened up the story lot. But one thing that stands out to me about this movie is how many of the big moments from Gauntlet are already there.

Of course they are not adapted directly, but the expected Part 1=Infinity Quest, Part 2=Infinity Gauntlet seems to not be happening.

Something with the multiverse and/or quantum realm seems most likely.

 

[Flint Marko]

I weirdly don't remember it at all. But yeah, let's hope that's his last slip-up before Avengers 4

 

[parkerpete]

My opinion on how it'll play out:

Tony and Steve reconcile. Tony tells Steve he's getting married. After a battle that not only almost kills them, but brings them closer, Tony offers Steve the role of Best Man. Fast forward to the 3rd Act, Steve sacrifices himself to save Tony and many others, but before he does, tells Tony he won't be able to fulfill his duties as Best Man. Steve dies. The movie ends with a memorial for Steve, and a big beautiful wedding for Tony and Pepper, with a pic of Cap and his shield standing where the Best Man wouldve stood.

I can see it now... Just as Steve is about to give Tony the ring, a jealous Happy takes him out with a sniper rifle.

 

[javonstokess]

Yeah, that's true. They tightened up the story lot. But one thing that stands out to me about this movie is how many of the big moments from Gauntlet are already there.

Of course they are not adapted directly, but the expected Part 1=Infinity Quest, Part 2=Infinity Gauntlet seems to not be happening.

Something with the multiverse and/or quantum realm seems most likely.

I listed all the moments taken from the main Infinity Gauntlet story awhile back.

Truth be told, the movie is a hodgepodge of Infinity Gauntlet, Thanos Quest and Infinity.

 

[lastairbender]

What a amazing movie...

I just have 2 things i didnt like very much..

1 - the whole Thor/Dwarf stuff trying to make the machine work looks like lets give him something to do in the whole movie

2- the way they deal with Cap, giving him so little to do.

And for gods sake...

Why did anyone cut thanos arm off.. when they caught him and try to take off the gaunlet, Iron man coud cut it off or even Strange could make a portal and take it... or even Thor in the end with the axe... just cut the connection between him and the glove...

 

[Flemm]

Truth be told, the movie is a hodgepodge of Infinity Gauntlet, Thanos Quest and Infinity.

Right, yeah. I think that a plausible guess, at one time, would have been that this movie would mostly be based on Infinity Quest, with some elements of Infinity mixed in.

But, in fact, it's all three. If they were going to bake everything down into one story, this would be it.

With one exception: the outcome.

So, to my mind, that has interesting implications for A4.

Why did anyone cut thanos arm off.. when they caught him and try to take off the gaunlet, Iron man coud cut it off or even Strange could make a portal and take it... or even Thor in the end with the axe... just cut the connection between him and the glove...

On this point, the movie deliberately suggests this possibility to the audience early on, in a moment that is a little gratuitous from any other angle that I can think of.

So, I guess that they want you to feel that way.

 

[zack.n]

I'm guessing that they have decided not to use the device of the gauntlet fixing everything.

That does happen in the comics, but they seem to be going in another direction.

Why did they conspicuously show the mold of the original gauntlet when they were at Nidavellir?

And what else can undo the half universe wipe out except the infinity stones?

 

[Spider-Fan]

Anyone else think that maybe instead of taking the Gauntlet off Thanos, they will simply use another Gauntlet and try to steal the stones? The mold wasn't destroyed.

 

[Flemm]

And what else can undo the half universe wipe out except the infinity stones?

Perhaps I should have articulated this better before, but the question that was raised was something like: what is the difference between the "disappearances" and the other deaths?

Why does that distinction matter, when the gauntlet can undo everything?

The answer would be: it matters because the gauntlet either (1) can't undo everything, or (2) won't be used to undo everything. #2 is more likely, so that is what I went with earlier.

The "disappearances" may be connected to the soulstone, or whatever. So they are in a separate category.

 

[harlequinade]

Anyone else think that maybe instead of taking the Gauntlet off Thanos, they will simply use another Gauntlet and try to steal the stones? The mold wasn't destroyed.

Yep, I'm totally thinking that It's like the entire subplot with Thor was for us to see the mold

 

[Spider-Fan]

Perhaps I should have articulated this better before, but the question that was raised was something like: what is the difference between the "disappearances" and the other deaths?

Why does that distinction matter, when the gauntlet can undo everything?

The answer would be: it matters because the gauntlet either (1) can't undo everything, or (2) won't be used to undo everything. #2 is more likely, so that is what I went with earlier.

The "disappearances" may be connected to the soulstone, or whatever. So they are in a separate category.

Thanos said it was going to erase them from existence, so that is probably why those people could be restored. They were not actually killed.

 

[Frodo]

After seeing IW, I really wish Captain Marvel was the next film . Antman and Wasp seems like an afterthought given Marvel's dual great achievements Black Panther and Infinity War.

Yes, I know there are Antman and Wasp's fans. I personally thought that Antman was just okay.

Hopefully the film won't be like a filler episode in a season, but will in some way really serve the overall arch by the end.

 

[Flemm]

The mold being significant is an interesting thought.

The themes of the movie are basically sacrifice and consequences, from what I can see, so I would expect A4 to delve further into that.

What went wrong? What is the winning scenario? What sacrifices will be necessary to get there?

There are a couple of moments not shown in this movie that could end up being significant later, like the acquisition of the power stone on Xandar. But the actual forging of the gauntlet could be another one.

 

[ctsketch]

After seeing IW, I really wish Captain Marvel was the next film . Antman and Wasp seems like an afterthought given Marvel's dual great achievements Black Panther and Infinity War.

Yes, I know there are Antman and Wasp's fans. I personally thought that Antman was just okay.

Hopefully the film won't be like a filler episode in a season, but will in some way really serve the overall arch by the end.

We need an emotional break after the roller-coaster that was IW. Ant Man is perfect lol

 

[P Supreme]

So apparently Ruffalo spoiled the ending for the movie all the way back in July.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-...poiler-ending-thanos-marvel-mcu-a8332051.html

Apparently he says “half of everybody dies” but it’s hard to hear. He’s lucky he didn’t speak clearer

I've seen that before I took as him trolling the question didn't take him seriously at the time

 

[Venom'sDad]

The mold being significant is an interesting thought.

The themes of the movie are basically sacrifice and consequences, from what I can see, so I would expect A4 to delve further into that.

What went wrong? What is the winning scenario? What sacrifices will be necessary to get there?

That is an interesting idea; have not put much thought into that for now, given they used up the most powerful casting, thats used for Kings, to make Stormbreaker.

However, on another front...there was two moments that subtly stuck out to me, that i can't shake. One was the Tony/Stephen last conversation & Steve's comment to Vision...both whom facial expression, I thought was poignant.

The grave look on Stephen's face, when he told Tony, "it was the only way." As if he saw that Tony life was meant for something much bigger & key to winning.

Yet, the somber look on Steve's face listening to the conversation around him as Vision suggest to Wanda, she has the power & frequency to destroy the stone...effectively destroying his life, "one life for Trillions".....before Cap himself chimed in and stated, "it shouldn't be, we shouldn't sacrifice one for another"...as if he knew it may very come to that & he was really to do just that to prevent any other from making the unltimate sacrifice themselves.

It appears to me, that notion has subtly been put in play & i expext something gravely heroic will fittingly occur with these two....not only will it save those that got snapped out of existence; but, save or replace Gamora as well.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Just got back, wow, an amazing movie and quite the astonishing feat from everyone involved, lost count of how many times my jaw dropped, and I had already spoiled myself silly before seeing it.

There are problems, as a huge Hulk fan, I didn’t have a problem with what happened at the beginning, but then us not seeing him again was a kick in the teeth, especially when every other hero seems to get their moment to shine.

Vision wasn’t much better, but he still got a couple of good moments st least, Hulk got none. And yeah, the Black Order were nerfed to hell, which was also disappointing.

However, the movie was still incredible, and Thanos, wow, altering power levels throughout aside, he was a sight to behold, and they kept the depth of the character from the comics. He pretty much made the movie for me. 9.5/10.

 

[Flemm]

The grave look on Stephen's face, when he told Tony, "it was the only way." As if he saw that Tony life was meant for something much bigger & key to winning.

I think that has to be important, yeah.

And I agree with your point about the lines from Cap and Vision.

On some basic level, sacrifice has two sides to it: you can sacrifice someone else for yourself, or you can sacrifice yourself for someone else (or for lots of other people).

The first is what Thanos does, the second is what the heroes will probably end up doing, imho.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

I was blown away. the ending was perfect. I thought Thanos would be a boring flat character, I'm happy to say that they managed to make him a well rounded charismatic yet terrifying character

 

[chaseter]

Did Farmer Thanos still have the gauntlet in that end scene?

 

[Flint Marko]

It looked like it was fried on his hand or something.