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Discussion in 'Misc. Comics Films' started by StormC, Jul 3, 2017.
With all due respect to Christian Bale, Robert Downey Jr. wrote the book on how to play a billionaire playboy.
Which isn't surprising, considering that the only thing Bale's character actually has in common with a billionaire playboy is the billionaire part.
Bruce does play the playboy to avoid suspicion and expectations in Begins.
Having watched the movie, I am aware of that. And that's exactly my point. Bale is playing a man who pretends to be a Playboy. RDJ is playing a man who actually is a playboy.
Begins isn't perfect and it's the least of TDKT, but it's also probably the best superhero origin movie ever done. Its first act is borderline immaculate.
I don't want to diminish Iron Man, though. That it's still at the top-level of the MCU and was the film that kick-started the whole thing is a huge accomplishment. And beyond that it just works. RDJ is perfect as Stark.
My point was that they have the playboy part in common, even though it's a different part of them.
Iron Man by far! The origin aspect of Batman Begins is mostly great but once he becomes Batman the film gets extremely boring and uninteresting, the film also suffers from highly incompetent action sequences and poor editing. Iron Man has better pacing, the visual effects are fantastic, the action is great and RDJ's performance is iconic.
Iron Man is mostly a lame movie from the beginning to the end and RDJ saves the day by being funny.
It's definitely Batman Begins.
Iron Man is good when Tony is in the desert but becomes pretty run of the mill once he gets back home. Iron Monger as evil Iron Man wasn't the most inspired choice either.
Iron Man. But I love Batman Begins, and it is my favorite of all the Batman movies.
Batman Begins, by a country mile, for me.
People were arguing over who's a better playboy? LOL. I think Bruce Wayne predates Tony Stark by 20+ years in the comics.
Bale-Bruce isn't shown too often indulging his playboyness (it wouldn't serve the story), but we do see him hanging with a couple ladies in the restaurant (the one he buys!) in Begins, and then he lands in uber-zillionaire style in a chopper at Harvey's benefit, and emerges with three honeys.
Both are CBM origins about tech-based superheroes that are billionaires by day, but never in a thousand years would I think about comparing them.
That being said, I'd have to give a slight edge to BB.
I'm a MCU ****e as much as the next guy, but I can't take into account what IM did for the universe or that the next movie in the Nolan trilogy is a big improvement.
As stand-alone movies, that 1% swings it towards BB.
Both are fantastic films but Batman Begins is just that bit better.
Iron Man. Easily.
I still really like Batman Begins, though.
Man this is a good one. BB is a great origin movie and paved the way for the more gritty and grounded superhero movie.
But Ironman felt like it was straight out of those colorful comic book pages. Plus Ironman will forever be my favorite origin movie since it started the mcu.
Batman Begins. It's beautifully put together and feels more Batman-y than Nolan's two sequels.
Iron Man has its positives (especially RDJ), but it's nowhere near as good as BB. I've watched BB so many times and find something new to appreciate, whereas IM just doesn't hold up.
Batman Begins, more mythic character ... even though RDJ (not so much Stark) was ridiculously entertaining. Both had weaker 3rd acts, but Begins still had the more engaging final act. Both Bale and RDJ gave great performances. Begins more engrossing from start to finish, and better villains. Ultimately more heart too even though I rooted hard for RDJ's redemption story.
Iron man by a far margin for me although begins is by far the best Nolan Batman film IMO.
Begins. Iron Man's third act battle really feels like an obligation, rather than a climax. Whereas the third act in Begins really picks up the tension as all heck breaks loose.
Tough one. Begins is probably going to rank as my favorite comic book film period, but I cannot deny what Iron Man did not just for the MCU, for Downey Jr., and how it, like both Begins and The Dark Knight, helped shape comic book films. Both great films with fantastic leads, though I'd probably give the slight edge to Begins from a storytelling level.
I prefer Begins by a good margin, but i still love Iron Man and the character itself.
My 1st favorite hero vs 3rd at the moment.
Both movies had good villains, great development and motives and a good supporting cast but BB is nearly better in everything except action and main lead start (which is close).
Do you go rooting through the archives trying to resurrect vs threads? I feel like ever since you showed up this sub forum has been swimming in versus threads, most involving the TDK trilogy.