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I have to admit, Tony Stark was my biggest problem with this film. That's not to say RDJ isn't still perfect in the role, or even that he didn't have any good moments, but I feel he suffered the most from being lost in the shuffle.
For starters, I didn't feel we were properly introduced to the new status quo. Stark's character makes sense in the wake of Avengers, however it seems that he has unlearned a lot of lessons from Iron Man 3. He is not the same guy we saw at the end of his last appearance, and though it's possible to deduce what has changed in the meantime, I think Joss asked a little too much with so many elements being introduced at once. More should have been done to show his new role after SHIELD went under. The pressure to step up and fill that void is visible, but not explored.
Ultron is a logical idea for Stark to have, but again is too quickly introduced, too quickly created, and too quickly goes wrong. This rush may have paid off if more time was spent showing the consequences it had on Tony and his friends, but Stark becomes petulant and defensive about his choices, and is ultimately vindicated when his reckless experiements are rewarded by the creation of Vision. Watching the film, I was aniticipating seeing this guy fall victim to his obsessions, and was left puzzled by the mixed messages of the film's conclusion.
As for the debate on this page about the Hulkbuster scene, I was actually very happy with that. It was totally in character for Stark to act the way he did during that fight, trying to tame Hulk like a big mad toddler, and it played well against his frantic attempts to protect civillians at the same time. I think everybody may have been satisfied if we had gotten a small scene afterward between him and Banner to touch on the emotion of that encounter.
I feel a lot of my issues with this film will be addressed in Civil War, for better of for worse. I was concerned this film would suffer from too much lead in material and I was kind of right, though not in the way I expected. Rather than a forced attempt to put Stark and Cap at odds for the sake of the next chapter, I get the impression that Joss pulled a lot of punches so that this dispute could happen later. Tiny scrapes with tiny band-aids, everything is civil at the end. Right now I expect you will likely be able to skip AOU in rewatches and miss out on very little. It felt inconsequential, and that's not how an Avengers film should be.
For starters, I didn't feel we were properly introduced to the new status quo. Stark's character makes sense in the wake of Avengers, however it seems that he has unlearned a lot of lessons from Iron Man 3. He is not the same guy we saw at the end of his last appearance, and though it's possible to deduce what has changed in the meantime, I think Joss asked a little too much with so many elements being introduced at once. More should have been done to show his new role after SHIELD went under. The pressure to step up and fill that void is visible, but not explored.
Ultron is a logical idea for Stark to have, but again is too quickly introduced, too quickly created, and too quickly goes wrong. This rush may have paid off if more time was spent showing the consequences it had on Tony and his friends, but Stark becomes petulant and defensive about his choices, and is ultimately vindicated when his reckless experiements are rewarded by the creation of Vision. Watching the film, I was aniticipating seeing this guy fall victim to his obsessions, and was left puzzled by the mixed messages of the film's conclusion.
As for the debate on this page about the Hulkbuster scene, I was actually very happy with that. It was totally in character for Stark to act the way he did during that fight, trying to tame Hulk like a big mad toddler, and it played well against his frantic attempts to protect civillians at the same time. I think everybody may have been satisfied if we had gotten a small scene afterward between him and Banner to touch on the emotion of that encounter.
I feel a lot of my issues with this film will be addressed in Civil War, for better of for worse. I was concerned this film would suffer from too much lead in material and I was kind of right, though not in the way I expected. Rather than a forced attempt to put Stark and Cap at odds for the sake of the next chapter, I get the impression that Joss pulled a lot of punches so that this dispute could happen later. Tiny scrapes with tiny band-aids, everything is civil at the end. Right now I expect you will likely be able to skip AOU in rewatches and miss out on very little. It felt inconsequential, and that's not how an Avengers film should be.
