Batman Begins Batman Begins Vs Superman Returns

[Mee]

The same is said for the Batman sequel.

I know I've said it.

I was thinking, in the SR sequel they're going to have to deal more with the kid, and maybe even bring up the ol' mind wiping kiss from Superman II, ugh. Hopefully we'll get Supes fighting Brainiac or something to keep things interesting.

Meanwhile the Batman franchise is only going up. Katie Holmes should be gone, and they're going to have Joker, should be even better than Begins.

 

[iceberg325]

BB is much much better that SR. No question about it.

 

[Stringer]

I know I've said it.

I was thinking, in the SR sequel they're going to have to deal more with the kid, and maybe even bring up the ol' mind wiping kiss from Superman II, ugh.

Now if they continue with the focus on that storyline then it will be disappointing, at least in my eyes. I want, and Im sure most people want, to see Superman fight a villian that shows off why he's Superman. Also if they bring Singer back he needs to cut down on all the homage and try to create an original film of his own.

 

[CConn]

I know I've said it.

I was thinking, in the SR sequel they're going to have to deal more with the kid, and maybe even bring up the ol' mind wiping kiss from Superman II, ugh. Hopefully we'll get Supes fighting Brainiac or something to keep things interesting.

Meanwhile the Batman franchise is only going up. Katie Holmes should be gone, and they're going to have Joker, should be even better than Begins.

In the SR novel, after Supes throws New Krypton into space, it begins to transform into Brainiac. Hope that'll happen in the sequel. I sorta doubt the kiss'll be mentioned. Singer seems to love making STM homages, but seems to avoid Superman II pretty well.

I'm actually really looking forward to seeing the father and son angle with the kid explored some more. I thought one of the more beautiful things about SR was how at the beginning, Supes felt totally alone, then by the end, he wasn't alone anymore - and had a son to boot. It could be really well-developed in the sequels.

Of course, I may just be overly optimistic after Singer handled this potentially disasterous plotline in SR extremely well.

 

[Mee]

I'll agree he pulled it off better than I expected, but I still don't like the idea.

For a sequel I want to see less Lois/love triangle, and more action. And not Superman saving stuff action, I want to see him have a Superman II-like brawl.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Actually, I think it had something to do with Brutus having a clown's faced tattooed onto the back of his head.

I'm not sure, but I think it is.

It actually looked like a dog to me.

Now if they continue with the focus on that storyline then it will be disappointing, at least in my eyes. I want, and Im sure most people want, to see Superman fight a villian that shows off why he's Superman. Also if they bring Singer back he needs to cut down on all the homage and try to create an original film of his own.

I dunno, it's probably best to start Superman off like this.....exploring why he really is Superman, and not why people THINK he is Superman.

In the SR novel, after Supes throws New Krypton into space, it begins to transform into Brainiac. Hope that'll happen in the sequel. I sorta doubt the kiss'll be mentioned. Singer seems to love making STM homages, but seems to avoid Superman II pretty well.

Wow, I didn't know that. I should check out the book. That, right there, would point to a Brainiac story for the sequel.....although, kinda in the same way that Talia was hinted at in the Batman Begins novel and DVD.

I'm actually really looking forward to seeing the father and son angle with the kid explored some more. I thought one of the more beautiful things about SR was how at the beginning, Supes felt totally alone, then by the end, he wasn't alone anymore - and had a son to boot. It could be really well-developed in the sequels.

Yup, I dug it too.

Of course, I may just be overly optimistic after Singer handled this potentially disasterous plotline in SR extremely well.

I'd agree....if you had told me the plot outline, with the basic point of the story....I probably would have hated it, and it would have blown. But, Singer made it all work.

 

[Mr.E.Nygma]

Sorry for the pop-up interruption you shal say, but
















BEGINS DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[trustyside-kick]

^Darn skippy.

 

[zer00]

Superman Returns.

Still love BB dearly of course. I had sex with the DVD yesterday. I can also get over liking something that doesn't have batman in it.

 

[iceberg325]

I dont think supes had enough "Umph" in it to beat out BB. Better BO numbers but IMO BB is a much better movie.

 

[trustyside-kick]

I can care less about the Box Office numbers...just like I can care less about what a critic thinks of a film (good or bad).

 

[iceberg325]

I can care less about the Box Office numbers...just like I can care less about what a critic thinks of a film (good or bad).

Some of the best movies dont even do good in the BO. Those numbers mean nothing. Hell scooby doo had better first weekend numbers than superman returns. Is it a better movie, NO!!!!!!!!!! BO #'s suck!!!

 

[trustyside-kick]

I only mentioned my opinion on it cause you mentioned it. :P

 

[iceberg325]

I only mentioned my opinion on it cause you mentioned it. :P

I know lol. I was just eloborating on your statement. The BO numbers mean crap lol.

 

[Jinnobi]

Superman Returns was better, but not by much.

I loved it, and I'm not even a Superman fan. I love Batman, however.
Critics are always wrong anyways. They hardly ever give the credit a good superhero movie deserves or build up the ones that aren't that good. Such as F4, Hulk. The Punisher didn't get as much hype, and I thought it was a good film.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Punisher was good...but Fantastic Four and Hulk just sucked.

I liked the style they went with with Hulk but it went too sci-fi for me; the ending mainly.

Fantastic Four?....story...I hated them having a machine to "turn them back" and crap like that. I hear they are making some sequel to it that is supposed to be written so much better that will make you forget about the first.

 

[CConn]

Superman Returns was better, but not by much.

I loved it, and I'm not even a Superman fan. I love Batman, however.
Critics are always wrong anyways. They hardly ever give the credit a good superhero movie deserves or build up the ones that aren't that good. Such as F4, Hulk. The Punisher didn't get as much hype, and I thought it was a good film.

JINNOBI!

 

[iceberg325]

Punisher was good...but Fantastic Four and Hulk just sucked.

I liked the style they went with with Hulk but it went too sci-fi for me; the ending mainly.

Fantastic Four?....story...I hated them having a machine to "turn them back" and crap like that. I hear they are making some sequel to it that is supposed to be written so much better that will make you forget about the first.

I actually bought FF4 the other day to give it a chance, and I must say that I didnt like it at all. I actually hated it more the second time than the first.

 

[Zilleraut #66]

Does anyone else find it funny that HBO has been showing the older Batman movies more than BB? I really hope that the WB doesn't go that route again.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

They're giving a special HEROES AND VILLIANS section on HBO ON DEMAND.

They have BATMAN, BATMAN AND ROBIN(****!), BATMAN BEGINS, Batman Begins: Batmobile, Batman Begins: The Fights, Batman Begins: The Sets, Superman the Movie, Superman II, Superman (Returns) 06: Scene, Superman (Returns) 06: Sneak, and.........Catwoman.

It's just a comic book type special they're doing since SR is out.

The only things SR could have used were fight scenes, and more Clark. Other than that, the movie is ****ing awesome. Numer 2 in my book.

 

[Jinnobi]

Superman is Superman. I don't really remember him fighting anyone. Batman fought like 50 different people. He had the best villains which made him so much more interesting.

 

[drunkhomer]

my opinion is BB is better then SR

 

[Lane Myer]

I liked BB way more that SR. For me it was the fact that I felt like I could relate to Batman. Plus it was darker.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Well, I felt like I could relate to Superman too.

CConn......are you sure that Brainiac thing happened?

 

[Ronny Shade]

I vote Superman Returns






yes. I do.