Batman/Bruce Wayne Casting Thread - Part 3

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Who brought a healthy dose of the crazy. Which is what Burton was going for.

Burton's take absolutely wouldn't have worked with the obvious Baldwin casting.

I'm not saying he wasn't great as Burton's Batman. My issue is lhe idea the idea that a guy with Isaac's qualities as an actor can't play Batman cause he isn't white enough. 5 white guys have played Batman since 1989. The Bale fans like me got three films, the Keaton fans got two films, the fans of both got five films, and Affleck fans got two, so what the hell does it matter? Who said this Bruce has to be old money? If that's the worst change from the comic then we're good.
 
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Hey, I'm not even particularly against the idea. Along with Bale and Kilmer he'd obviously the best actual actor to get the gig if he did.

Only point being it'd seem like an arbitrary change making Bruce half-Latino for the hell of it. Nothing really wrong with it, it just sort of comes off as different-for-the-sake-of-different.

I would sort of take issue with Batman being new-money though, it sort of clashes pretty majorly with the big old-timey stately mansion and implication of long family tradition & history. From memory Aronofsky's version of Begins had Bats as a white guy but a more working-class background, and I think most of us would take issue with that as much or more than a Latino Batman on principle. The Waynes aren't really just some random moneybags fatcat family, they're sort of an institution in the city and their wealth goes back before that.

You could do it. Just...you don't really gain anything from doing it, either.
 
This is random (well, not so random given the subject of late), but I've been reading up on surviving members of "old money" dynasties like the Roosevelts and the DuPonts; and it turns out that actor Timothy Olyphant is a descendant of the Vanderbilt family. Interesting.

Anyway, we need news. Badly.
 
I don't think Bruce HAS to be Anglo-Saxon necessarily, but I do think it makes sense for him to be in a way that it might not be for other characters. It's backgrounded in the old-money Wayne family dynasty and the intrinsic role it plays in Gotham's history, but it's really about the position of privilege Bruce is in. In virtually every way that an individual can be Bruce is set above the average citizen. He's the prince of Gotham, which has the dichotomy of being what enables him to be Batman because of the wealth and resources it grants, but also what keeps him at a distance from the city and its people. It's the symbolism of Wayne Manor; the monument of Gotham's most successful and maybe most important family that isn't actually in the city. It factors into why Bruce decides to fight crime as something other than himself, why he leaves to live in relative poverty during the wilderness period of his training. It's even an implicit reason why he mentors the various Robins, as what are basically street orphans they allow him to learn a perspective that he otherwise wouldn't be able to know.

I can see Bruce having distant Spanish roots to some degree, but it'd have to be exclusively from Spain (preferably white Spanish nobility). You're right, though. It wouldn't make much sense for him to be say, Columbian or Puerto Rican given his social standing unless Reeves were to redefine his traditional origins.
 
Isaac is more suited to Batman at face value than Keaton ever was. The idea Isaac couldn't play Batman well is laughable to me honestly.

Thank you finally someone who has sense
 
I'm fine with Isaac as Batman but for some reason, I'd rather see him play Lex Luthor.
 
I like Isaac for the role but there's other options I also like Michael Fassbender, Luke Evans, and Dan Stevens among others. Who knows who it could be?
 
I'm fine with Isaac as Batman but for some reason, I'd rather see him play Lex Luthor.

Both. :cool:

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Christopher Nolan should play Batman, Directed by Oscar Isaac.
 
I'm fine with Isaac as Batman but for some reason, I'd rather see him play Lex Luthor.

And Luthor's "new money", so no one can complain. :oldrazz:

Seriously, though, someone like him or Woody Harrelson (my top choice) would've killed it in that role.
 
I still like Clooney for Lex.

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Damian Lewis too.
 
And Luthor's "new money", so no one can complain. :oldrazz:

Seriously, though, someone like him or Woody Harrelson (my top choice) would've killed it in that role.


Isaac, Harrelson, Clooney, Lewis, ANYONE would have been better than ****ing Eisenturd. I don't know if that was the worst bit of casting in superhero movie history but it was damn close. I mean, for example, Shaq was probably worse casting when he played Steel given his lack of any discernible acting ability, but at least he COULD have looked the part had they given him a half decent costume. Eisenberg will probably look like a teenager until he's in his sixties (which will probably be when he voice will finally drop).
 
Eisenberg could've done well if there was halfway decent writing backing him up.

A Luthor that young, how the **** are you not doing it the silver age/Smallville/Birthright way?
 
Clooney has been my top choice for Lex since before Man of Steel was released. I remember an old poster who I was quite fond of didn't like the idea. Of course hopefuldreamer doesn't post in these parts anymore lol. MOS kinda killed her enthusiasm for DC or Superman.
 
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Eisenberg could've done well if there was halfway decent writing backing him up.

A Luthor that young, how the **** are you not doing it the silver age/Smallville/Birthright way?

I think that's the only way it might have worked and I actually think that might have been what they were (kind of) going for, they just had no idea how to do it. Lex acts a bit deranged at certain points in Birthright so I think they just looked at those moments and thought, let's just have him act like the Joker! Sort of!
 
Clooney has been my top choice for Lex since before Man of Steel was released. I remember an old poster who I was quite fond of didn't like the idea. Of course hopefuldreamer doesn't post in these parts anymore lol. MOS kinda killed her enthusiasm for DC or Superman.

Yeah, he would have been great. No idea if he'd even want to touch CBMs now though, after his initial attempt at them.
 
To me Clooney is a sympathetic figure in the context of Batman and Robin. He should be known as the best Batman, but he was cast as Batman during the Shumacher era so....No telling how amazing he could have been umder a different vision
 
To me Clooney is a sympathetic figure in the context of Batman and Robin. He should be known as the best Batman, but he was cast as Batman during the Shumacher era so....No telling how amazing he could have been umder a different vision

Totally agree; he might have been a great Batman under good direction. I remember watching From Dusk til Dawn back in the day and being excited to see what he could bring to the role. Schumacher screwed him.

But even though the movie wasn't his fault, he was still a key part in the film that nearly killed the genre. So no one could blame him if he wanted to steer clear of CBMs. I have no idea how he feels about superhero movies overall though. But my guess is, if he ever appears in one again, it would likely be a Marvel film. He'd probably avoid DC unless WB gets their **** together.
 
I supported Luke Evans for Batsy before Affleck was cast. He is probably a bit older than Reeves is going for. If Gyllenhaal was the apparent first choice, Reeves will likely look for someone with similar attributes. If he were a few years younger, Matthew Goode would be a contender. My guess is we get someone in their mid 30s who looks younger.
 
You know who just struck me as a decent choice for a rebooted Gordon?

This just-starting-to-look-his-age mother****er...

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You know who would be an EXCELLENT Gordon?


Oscar Isaac.
 
You know what? **** this, in the face of all the age-range/type of actor evidence we have, I'm still on the Caviezel train dammit. :woot:

Make it so. Reese, cape, batarangs. Bing bang boom.
 
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